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quoted 7 lines sorry, i just couldn't resist. i also realize the list is full of semi

> sorry, i just couldn't resist. i also realize the list is full of semi > - intelligent individuals (i think... at least i'm guessing most of you > guys and gals vote) and might've tuned in for a bit. > > IDM related - > don't vote for bush > he hates dance music and kills people

i'm pretty sure that the idm list is a fucking awful place to bring this shit up. -jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

god forbid that george w. bush has ANY chance of winning the presidential election. (if we could just make the south a separate country... hehe) did anyone (living in the U.S... i realize we're a rather self - centered culture) watch this? ahhhh... what a fucking moron. bush is backwards retarded and keeps making that stupid smirk like he's constantly giggling. how about the statement he made that 'students at risk' is a bad term, and that what these students actually are, are students that "can't learn." what the hell? sorry, i just couldn't resist. i also realize the list is full of semi - intelligent individuals (i think... at least i'm guessing most of you guys and gals vote) and might've tuned in for a bit. IDM related - don't vote for bush he hates dance music and kills people thank you. goodnight. christian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

i missed it, because i don't own a TV. someone should make a recording of it, so we can use bush snippets in tracks :) any takers? i hope someone taped it. there has to be some PRIME material in there for abusing in music form. cheers At 11:54 PM 10/3/2000 -0400, christian adam hresko wrote:

quoted 28 lines god forbid that george w. bush has ANY chance of winning the

>god forbid that george w. bush has ANY chance of winning the >presidential election. (if we could just make the south a separate >country... hehe) > >did anyone (living in the U.S... i realize we're a rather self - >centered culture) watch this? ahhhh... what a fucking moron. bush is >backwards retarded and keeps making that stupid smirk like he's >constantly giggling. how about the statement he made that 'students at >risk' is a bad term, and that what these students actually are, are >students that "can't learn." what the hell? > >sorry, i just couldn't resist. i also realize the list is full of semi >- intelligent individuals (i think... at least i'm guessing most of you >guys and gals vote) and might've tuned in for a bit. > >IDM related - >don't vote for bush >he hates dance music and kills people > >thank you. > >goodnight. > >christian > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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You opened a can o' worms with this topic. I dislike Gore, because his wife thought it would be "neat" to label music back in the late 80s/early 90s.(what a bitch) He isn't getting my vote for that very reason. Plus he is an even bigger moron for saying that he helped invent the internet! ...and he is supported by an industry that has turned it's back on electronic music for years.(I had to make some correlation to this list) I can't wait for that new Wallflowers album.(so that I can shit on it!) I am not saying that I am a George W. Bush supporter either. I just hate Gore! BTW: The CIM album Reference is incredible. I would like to thank those of you on this list who recommended it! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

im personally for nader, just becaues he isn't gore or bush. and thats all i have to say about that. :jason (i'm not here, this isn't happening) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 1 line You opened a can o' worms with this topic. I dislike Gore, because his

> > You opened a can o' worms with this topic. I dislike Gore, because his

wife

quoted 5 lines thought it would be "neat" to label music back in the late 80s/early

> > thought it would be "neat" to label music back in the late 80s/early > > 90s.(what a bitch) He isn't getting my vote for that very reason. > > wow. if this is your justification for not voting for gore.... >

Yeah. Seems like a pretty good reason to me. To be honest with you, I am really scared to have either of these corpses in the white house.

quoted 6 lines Plus he is an even bigger moron for saying that he helped invent the

> > Plus he is an even bigger moron for saying that he helped invent the > > internet! > > well, he did support it's birth and was one of the few people who was > encouraging it's development. >

Is that why he is trying so hard to censor it now?

quoted 7 lines I am not saying that I am a George W. Bush supporter either.

> > I am not saying that I am a George W. Bush supporter either. > > ohhhhhhh....*phew* > > > I just hate Gore! > > oh yeah, i remember...are you sure you just don't hate tipper...i know

she's not

quoted 3 lines running.. ;)

> running.. ;) > >

She will be in the white house with him. We all saw the influence Hillary had.(and no I am not saying it was negative)

quoted 1 line BTW: The CIM album Reference is incredible. I would like to thank

> > BTW: The CIM album Reference is incredible. I would like to thank

those of

quoted 3 lines you on this list who recommended it!

> > you on this list who recommended it! > > hmm...i have yet to check it out. funds are now available but they're

going

quoted 1 line straight into my hardware savings account. it should all justify itself in

> straight into my hardware savings account. it should all justify itself in

the

quoted 3 lines end...

> end... > is CiM really that good though? i'm expecting a isan type sound.. >

Like mentioned in a previous post. The tracks are not long loops of the same shit. Each one gets to the point and moves on.

quoted 7 lines shaun

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quoted 3 lines You opened a can o' worms with this topic. I dislike Gore, because his wife

> You opened a can o' worms with this topic. I dislike Gore, because his wife > thought it would be "neat" to label music back in the late 80s/early > 90s.(what a bitch) He isn't getting my vote for that very reason.

wow. if this is your justification for not voting for gore....

quoted 2 lines Plus he is an even bigger moron for saying that he helped invent the

> Plus he is an even bigger moron for saying that he helped invent the > internet!

well, he did support it's birth and was one of the few people who was encouraging it's development.

quoted 1 line I am not saying that I am a George W. Bush supporter either.

> I am not saying that I am a George W. Bush supporter either.

ohhhhhhh....*phew*

quoted 1 line I just hate Gore!

> I just hate Gore!

oh yeah, i remember...are you sure you just don't hate tipper...i know she's not running.. ;)

quoted 2 lines BTW: The CIM album Reference is incredible. I would like to thank those of

> BTW: The CIM album Reference is incredible. I would like to thank those of > you on this list who recommended it!

hmm...i have yet to check it out. funds are now available but they're going straight into my hardware savings account. it should all justify itself in the end... is CiM really that good though? i'm expecting a isan type sound.. shaun --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 02:05 AM 04/10/00, {{{5x}}} wrote:

quoted 5 lines Plus he is an even bigger moron for saying that he helped invent the

> > Plus he is an even bigger moron for saying that he helped invent the > > internet! > >well, he did support it's birth and was one of the few people who was >encouraging it's development.

Are you kidding? I'd lay pretty heavy odds that *my* first exposure to the Internet (in 1987) was years before Gore had even *heard* of it. And it had already been around for 15 years or so at that point. I feel sorry for you Americans. Having to choose between the two dipsticks you've got running, and having Gore as your "liberal" choice - that really sucks. (yeah, I know, there's Nader - but really, does he have a hope in hell of winning?) Greg -- Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - greg@feedbackmonitor.com concert & event promotions - http://www.stainedproductions.com electronic music radio/reviews/interviews - http://www.feedbackmonitor.com 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 - Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 01:10 AM 10/4/2000 -0400, Greg Clow wrote:

quoted 15 lines At 02:05 AM 04/10/00, {{{5x}}} wrote:

>At 02:05 AM 04/10/00, {{{5x}}} wrote: >> > Plus he is an even bigger moron for saying that he helped invent the >> > internet! >> >>well, he did support it's birth and was one of the few people who was >>encouraging it's development. > >Are you kidding? I'd lay pretty heavy odds that *my* first exposure to the >Internet (in 1987) was years before Gore had even *heard* of it. And it >had already been around for 15 years or so at that point. > >I feel sorry for you Americans. Having to choose between the two dipsticks >you've got running, and having Gore as your "liberal" choice - that really >sucks. (yeah, I know, there's Nader - but really, does he have a hope in >hell of winning?)

Nader is scary. he's the greater of the 3 evils. and i'm completing a trade for the CiM - Reference, so hopefully it's good. i'm looking forward to it. cheers, /derek - - - - - - - "Extremism is no vice when God's on your side" -Opus the Penguin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 4 lines I feel sorry for you Americans. Having to choose between the two dipsticks

> I feel sorry for you Americans. Having to choose between the two dipsticks > you've got running, and having Gore as your "liberal" choice - that really > sucks. (yeah, I know, there's Nader - but really, does he have a hope in > hell of winning?)

It's one thing to say Gore and Bush are dipsticks...most politicians are....but to say you feel sorry for Americans because of a couple of politicians? Give me a break. Like your country has much better politicians? Please...that is laughable. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 3 lines Are you kidding? I'd lay pretty heavy odds that *my* first exposure to the

> Are you kidding? I'd lay pretty heavy odds that *my* first exposure to the > Internet (in 1987) was years before Gore had even *heard* of it. And it had > already been around for 15 years or so at that point.

yeah but that 15 years was just for government data transfer, right? i dunno..

quoted 4 lines I feel sorry for you Americans. Having to choose between the two dipsticks

> I feel sorry for you Americans. Having to choose between the two dipsticks > you've got running, and having Gore as your "liberal" choice - that really > sucks. (yeah, I know, there's Nader - but really, does he have a hope in > hell of winning?)

yeah..but we in canada don't have it much better. wow...clark ( i forget if he is even running) chretien and day. FUCK SCRUM!! why is it that virtually no one outside of canada cares that trudeau died? funny concept: nader vs. all of congress shaun --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 3 lines IDM related -

>IDM related - >don't vote for bush >he hates dance music and kills people

Don't forget the huge number of people who Gore has killed, too (directly with US military forces or through funding and/or training other militaries), and those who he will kill if he remains in office (Columbia, Indonesia, etc.). Voting for good old Ralph Nader, that's what I'm doing, that's for sure. So how is that Presidential debates remix circle going (bringing this back on topic)? Marc Poirier --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 2 lines speaking of that last phrase... how many went out and bought radiohead

> speaking of that last phrase... how many went out and bought radiohead > yesterday? i, personally, have been an extremely large fan for a long

while,

quoted 2 lines but i think Kid A is gonna alienate all those fans out there that

> but i think Kid A is gonna alienate all those fans out there that > are lookin for another Bends

or it may work like NIN's pretty hate machine and convert another slew of guitar worshipers over to electronic devices.. (note: i do not hate guitars) aaron systorm technologies www.systorm.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

i picked it up .... there was a very interesting cross section of people at the record store, i saw high school kids that probably tune into TRL daily standing next to crusty punkers and ravers, all eager to get a copy. it's nice to see a band able to capture that sort of universal appeal everybody seems to be pretty expectant about radiohead. i think they are an oasis of talent in a vast desert of shite "modern rock" ... you can argue whether or not they "rule" or "suck" but goddamn, at least they try to push boundaries, as opposed to other "top 40" bands like blink 182 or Limp Bizkit. regarding the "oh no they're going to expose electronica to the masses" worries that i have seen popping up on the list: i understand the "this music is mine, you'll never understand it and you just like it because mtv told you to" angst, i went through it with Nine Inch Nails and Jesus Jones when i was 17 years old. but it's a futile concern that serves only to stroke the egos of those who "heard it first" it's all part of the evolution that takes place all the time ... the avant garde push the boundaries of what is considered "acceptable artwork" and sooner or later, the bourgeoisie rush in to fill in the vacuum. it serves as a mechanism to propel the avant garde in new directions. so be happy that the frat boys will soon be jamming autechre from the speakers of their SUVs, because that is the true sound of innovation. -josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, aaron wrote:

quoted 21 lines speaking of that last phrase... how many went out and bought radiohead

> > speaking of that last phrase... how many went out and bought radiohead > > yesterday? i, personally, have been an extremely large fan for a long > while, > > but i think Kid A is gonna alienate all those fans out there that > > are lookin for another Bends > > or it may work like NIN's pretty hate machine and convert another slew of > guitar worshipers over to electronic devices.. > > (note: i do not hate guitars) > > aaron > systorm technologies > www.systorm.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, aaron wrote:

quoted 2 lines speaking of that last phrase... how many went out and bought radiohead

> > speaking of that last phrase... how many went out and bought radiohead > > yesterday?

Yeah, sure. I might be speaking prematurely since I've only listened to it a couple of times, but my reaction so far has been lukewarm at best. I thought there are like 2 or 3 OK songs, but the album just kinda washed over me and didn't leave much of an impression. There's nothing very exceptional about it. Both the writing and the sounds they use are rather average. At times I thought there was some naive use of DSP, like "hey, I just discovered timestretching". Maybe my expectations were too high after "OK Computer", but I don't think that's entirely it. And it doesn't sound like a band record to me which is probably due to the absence of guitars which was the dominant sound on their previous albums. I guess the guitar players decided to switch to keyboards for the new one. And I have to say I actually find Yorke's whining annoying at times. I'm bitchin' aren't I ? I'm just dissapointed. And it's not that I was expecting "OK Computer 2" cuz I'm willing to accept whatever new direction they wanna go into, I just thought they'd make a better record. And to those people who think it sounds like IDM or Autechre, you must be on crack ! "Idioteque" (I think) superficially resembles a track off "EP7", but that's about it imo.

quoted 3 lines i, personally, have been an extremely large fan for a long while,

> > i, personally, have been an extremely large fan for a long while, > > but i think Kid A is gonna alienate all those fans out there that > > are lookin for another Bends

Why would anyone expect "The Bends" after "OK Computer" !? Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Tue, 03 Oct 2000 23:54:45 -0400 christian adam hresko <godpup@ix.netcom.com> writes:

quoted 26 lines god forbid that george w. bush has ANY chance of winning the

> god forbid that george w. bush has ANY chance of winning the > presidential election. (if we could just make the south a separate > country... hehe) > > did anyone (living in the U.S... i realize we're a rather self - > centered culture) watch this? ahhhh... what a fucking moron. bush > is > backwards retarded and keeps making that stupid smirk like he's > constantly giggling. how about the statement he made that 'students > at > risk' is a bad term, and that what these students actually are, are > students that "can't learn." what the hell? > > sorry, i just couldn't resist. i also realize the list is full of > semi > - intelligent individuals (i think... at least i'm guessing most of > you > guys and gals vote) and might've tuned in for a bit. > > IDM related - > don't vote for bush > he hates dance music and kills people > > thank you. > > goodnight.

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quoted 9 lines IDM related -

> > >IDM related - > >don't vote for bush > >he hates dance music and kills people > > Don't forget the huge number of people who Gore has killed, too > (directly with US military forces or through funding and/or training other > militaries), and those who he will kill if he remains in office (Columbia, > Indonesia, etc.).

I'm from Portugal, so i have nothing to do with those elections (fortunately - the choice is hard on the negative side...) but let me add my two cents to this: what about those that will be killed by drugs (Columbian case) and by Indonesian troops in East Timor (Free Country at last) and other «Indonesian» territories? Aren't they to acount for, because of an hypotetical "head in the sand" US attitude? ~lmarta. np: Coldfinger : "Lefthand" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

okay, both guys kill people. but george w. bush executes more people. politicians in general, are evil. if nader had a chance i would vote for him. unfortunately, it really comes down to two people. if we're going to have someone who's remotely evil in office, it should be someone other than bush. (leaving gore...) and gore stated that one of his first 'goals' was to pass a law making reaktor AND msp open source. of course NI and cycling '74 doesn't like this, but i think it's a good plan. but seriously, bush is a twit. if he gets elected, i'm moving to canada. and yes, there's plenty of material to sample. he's sounds like a moron already, so there shouldn't be that much work in cutting and pasting phrases together. oh yeah, bush would also try and make abortions illegal. a REALLy bad idea. i'm not going to speak for any women (because i'm not a women...) but people should really be able to decide what they do with their bodies, whether or it's 'right' or 'wrong.' terminating a pregnancy after six months is rather disgusting (in the physical sense...), but you never all the factors. anyway... this is a touchy subject, so i'll stop here. i've only been to canada once, but it seemed like a pretty nice place.... cheers, christian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 11 lines okay, both guys kill people. but george w. bush executes more people.

>okay, both guys kill people. but george w. bush executes more people. > >politicians in general, are evil. > >if nader had a chance i would vote for him. unfortunately, it really >comes down to >two people. > >if we're going to have someone who's remotely evil in office, it should be >someone >other than bush. (leaving gore...)

Oh, I wish I didn't have to hear any more of this "a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush" or "a vote for Nader is a wasted vote" silliness. First of all, a vote for Gore is basically a vote for Bush & vice versa, since they have pretty much identical stances on pretty much every really important issue (military spending, US military violence in foreign countries, corporate welfare, health care, social welfare, prison industry & prison privatization, etc.). Secondly, even if Nader does not wind up winning this election, a vote for Nader is not a wasted vote. If he gets 15% of the popular vote this year, he will get matching federal funds in his next presidential campaign. Also, the more votes he gets this year, the more viable he will seem as a candidate when running next time. So a vote for Nader can be a vote for those things, & other things that I'm sure I'm not thinking of right now. Also, you never know what can happen still. Little events can be very important, for example, I'm thinking of the way how Jesse Ventura had practically no support until he participated in the gubernatorial debates & then shot up the polls and won the election (which is another reason why it is SO bad that Ralph was barred from the debates). "When you keep choosing the lesser of two evils, all you end up with is evil." - Howard Zinn, 3 days ago

quoted 5 lines and gore stated that one of his first 'goals' was to pass a law making

>and gore stated that one of his first 'goals' was to pass a law making >reaktor AND >msp open source. of course NI and cycling '74 doesn't like this, but i >think it's >a good plan.

Nader, too, plus he'll open the source to Supercollider, Logic Audio, and OSX. Marc Poirier --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 7 lines Secondly, even if Nader does not wind up winning this election, a

> Secondly, even if Nader does not wind up winning this election, a > vote for Nader is not a wasted vote. If he gets 15% of the popular vote > this year, he will get matching federal funds in his next presidential > campaign. Also, the more votes he gets this year, the more viable he will > seem as a candidate when running next time. So a vote for Nader can be a > vote for those things, & other things that I'm sure I'm not thinking of > right now.

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