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quoted 1 line From: EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu>

>From: EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu>

quoted 6 lines Radiohead's "Kid A"

>>Radiohead's "Kid A" > >electronica? hmm i would go post-pop (a la post-rock heh heh), if >anything. and from what i've heard, both from myself and from people who >are more into radiohead than, say, autechre, if you like >autechre, you'll >think this album is pretty boring.

I've always been a huge Autechre fan, and not so much a Radiohead fan until "Ok Computer". I'm expecting to be pretty awesome regardless of whether it's rock sounding or IDM.

quoted 4 lines i think that it's a very good mainstream release, because it is new - from

>i think that it's a very good mainstream release, because it is new - from >a mainstream POV. and i get the feeling that most reviews are >going to be >favorable, simply because there is a surprisingly high >amount of people in >the music *industry* with a softspot for radiohead.

It's not that surprising. Radiohead is one of the few rock bands that are putting out good material.

quoted 3 lines well, if my experience with radiohead fans is worth anything, it will

>well, if my experience with radiohead fans is worth anything, it will >likely just make them waiting in anticipation for the next >radiohead >album.

Must be like Autechre, Aphex Twin, and BOC fans

quoted 3 lines most people who follow bands devoutly don't branch out within the genre -

>most people who follow bands devoutly don't branch out within the genre - >they simply wait for their fav. bands to release more >albums/eps and make >fan-pages.

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quoted 8 lines electronica? hmm i would go post-pop (a la post-rock heh heh), if

>>electronica? hmm i would go post-pop (a la post-rock heh heh), if >>anything. and from what i've heard, both from myself and from people who >>are more into radiohead than, say, autechre, if you like >autechre, >>you'll think this album is pretty boring. > >I've always been a huge Autechre fan, and not so much a Radiohead fan >until "Ok Computer". I'm expecting to be pretty awesome regardless of >whether it's rock sounding or IDM.

well right, but you (i assume) like them for different reasons, and not because radiohead sounds like autechre, correct? i was merely clarifying that this is pretty removed from autechre. i'm not saying that if you like autechre you'll hate this, but if you buy this with the idea that this is autechrey rock, you'll be disappointed.

quoted 7 lines i think that it's a very good mainstream release, because it is new -

>>i think that it's a very good mainstream release, because it is new - >>from a mainstream POV. and i get the feeling that most reviews >>are >going to be favorable, simply because there is a surprisingly >>high >amount of people in the music *industry* with a softspot for radiohead. > >It's not that surprising. Radiohead is one of the few rock bands that are >putting out good material.

the surprising aspect is that when you talk to people out on the street, it's rare to find a radiohead fan, but there are a lot of people who like radiohead who are active in the industry (A&R people, producers, etc.). i'm not doubting the integrity of their material, cos even though i personally don't like radiohead too much, i can see what the attraction is. and i'm not about to extrapolate what that is (cos, like most things, it's rather intangible anyways). =)

quoted 4 lines well, if my experience with radiohead fans is worth anything, it will

>>well, if my experience with radiohead fans is worth anything, it will >>likely just make them waiting in anticipation for the next >radiohead album. > >Must be like Autechre, Aphex Twin, and BOC fans

also in my experience, the majority of people who are fans of autechre, boards of canada, etc, aren't waiting around comparing every release to the latest X release in anticipation of the next X album. now, obviously, there are people who are completely fanatical, but radiohead has the advantage that you don't have to know other types of music to know radiohead - they achieved mild success earlier in their career, had music videos played on mtv, and had a bit of radio-time. granted it was with their older material, but it let people into the band without having to do much more than be a veg. and from what i've gathered, most people don't "just happen upon" boards of canada or autechre. this isn't always the case, but they usually arrive at said artists after having a couple "idm" releases and searching for more in the genre. now this isn't always the case - i've known lots of people who are just hung up on everything aphex twin does. but as an opposite example, i konw a lot of people who got turned on to aphex twin via nine inch nails. and i also know a lot of people who didn't get turned on to aphex twin via nine inch nails and are still worshipping everything nine inch nails does. i'm not saying this bears any huge relevance on other artists or genres, but most of the people i know who started buying up the aphex twin stuff are now on to buying up schematic stuff and other warp stuff and many many independent labels within the "genre", whilst the people who stuck with nine-inch-nails-obsession are just pissed about "the fragile" :) oh, sorry bout that rant...

quoted 5 lines most people who follow bands devoutly don't branch out within the genre -

>>most people who follow bands devoutly don't branch out within the genre - >>they simply wait for their fav. bands to release more >albums/eps and >>make fan-pages. > >Sounds like most of IDM people.

most? hmm.. i think people get excited when a new release is announced, but i personally don't think that people who describe their musical tastes by declaring a genre (any genre, mind you) worry too much about specific artist's future output. i think to clarify my point, when i'm asked what's my "favorite music artist(s)", i don't have an answer, because i don't have one, and i wouldn't be able to find one. i have "favorite music styles", sure, but a style can include very many artists. i'm equally excited when i hear about a new autechre release, a new amon tobin release, or a new tadd mullinix release (heh heh). now, someone who claims that their "favorite music artist(s)" are radiohead, or britney spears, or hell even autechre would be more inclined to hold such an artist (or group of artists) as near-obsessive and have much more anticipation for said fav. artist's next release, to the exclusion of other types of music. remember, this is me arguing against the idea that the new radiohead cd will turn a lot of big radiohead fans onto more "idm" styles, and i still hold by the idea that the people who are going to buy the new radiohead cd are more apt to buy a guitar than buy a synth. i don't doubt that it'll be a fine cd, but don't expect an influx in idm-l membership. cheers, /derek ----------- "Extremism is no vice when God's on your side" -Opus the Penguin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org