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2000-08-31 21:39Scott Allison [idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff?
2000-09-01 07:20Andreas Tilliander RE: [idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff?
2000-09-01 20:52Tim Hecker Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff?
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2000-08-31 21:39Scott AllisonJust wondering if anyone pays any attention to the smaller sounds in the electronic univer
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Just wondering if anyone pays any attention to the smaller sounds in the electronic universe? I am really into ae, but i also love stuff off 12K and other such labels. Just wanted to know what everyone thinks of the minimal side of idm. -scott --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-01 07:20Andreas Tillianderto me it sometimes seems that the minimal side is the future of idm. because i´m tired of
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to me it sometimes seems that the minimal side is the future of idm. because i´m tired of people making autechre-like songs, with covers which reminds me of designers republic, and songtitles like aster chreti or something like that. but when 12k, mego, raster noton and others, get sold in as many copies as the warpstuff, then everyone else will make music like that. so where´s the underground in that? -----Original Message----- From: Scott Allison [mailto:Scott_Allison@Mediacentric.com] Sent: den 31 augusti 2000 23:39 To: 'idm@hyperreal.org' Subject: [idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? Just wondering if anyone pays any attention to the smaller sounds in the electronic universe? I am really into ae, but i also love stuff off 12K and other such labels. Just wanted to know what everyone thinks of the minimal side of idm. -scott --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-01 20:52Tim Hecker12k/mego/clickclank et al will never be the "future of idm" while its fun to listen to whe
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12k/mego/clickclank et al will never be the "future of idm" while its fun to listen to when you take acid...its mostly the pencil neck geeks who get into it and dont know alot about sex. i use minimal shit to back up blacksabbath & speed metal on the decks. people need to fucking party and people should start understanding this simple fact! :) Andreas Tilliander wrote:
quoted 1 line to me it sometimes seems that the minimal side is the future of idm.> to me it sometimes seems that the minimal side is the future of idm.
because
quoted 1 line i´m tired of people making autechre-like songs, with covers which> i´m tired of people making autechre-like songs, with covers which
reminds me
quoted 1 line of designers republic, and songtitles like aster chreti or something> of designers republic, and songtitles like aster chreti or something
like
quoted 3 lines that.> that. > > but when 12k, mego, raster noton and others, get sold in as many
copies as
quoted 1 line the warpstuff, then everyone else will make music like that. so> the warpstuff, then everyone else will make music like that. so
where´s the
quoted 9 lines underground in that?> underground in that? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Allison [mailto:Scott_Allison@Mediacentric.com] > Sent: den 31 augusti 2000 23:39 > To: 'idm@hyperreal.org' > Subject: [idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? > > Just wondering if anyone pays any attention to the smaller sounds in
the
quoted 1 line electronic universe? I am really into ae, but i also love stuff off> electronic universe? I am really into ae, but i also love stuff off
12K and
quoted 1 line other such labels. Just wanted to know what everyone thinks of the> other such labels. Just wanted to know what everyone thinks of the
minimal
quoted 11 lines side of idm.> side of idm. > > -scott > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2000-09-02 05:51k. alehi don't know if it all comes down to the micro stuff in the future, but i sure think that
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i don't know if it all comes down to the micro stuff in the future, but i sure think that the influences of all this microscopic stuff will be heard in the next months/years. but i don't think that it will be as big as warp. but io can advise people to go and see/hear a gig by rijoy ikeda or noto, or whom ever. really great. ii heard ikeda/noto are going to do a cd together (saw that one live, brilliant) music for your ears/mind
quoted 4 lines Andreas Tilliander wrote:>Andreas Tilliander wrote: > >> to me it sometimes seems that the minimal side is the future of idm. >because
www.xs4all.nl/~eatthis out already: ragina-kudo parto du: various artist rmx a song spring release (out already) : endorphins: dedication ep post-summer release: (3th week of sept.): kaihoisa 10": d' enborage & tronikgatan - double A-side 10". ___________________________________________________________________________ end of message - but keep enjoying your childhood ___________________________________________________________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-03 22:23Lance @ InaudibleAt 05:39 PM 8/31/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Just wondering if anyone pays any attention to th
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At 05:39 PM 8/31/2000 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 4 lines Just wondering if anyone pays any attention to the smaller sounds in the>Just wondering if anyone pays any attention to the smaller sounds in the >electronic universe? I am really into ae, but i also love stuff off 12K and >other such labels. Just wanted to know what everyone thinks of the minimal >side of idm.
I really enjoy much of the microsound stuff but i listen to it more as tmospheric and/or background noise than actual songs/tracks. It's also very nice as a mixing tool on top of more substantive tracks. Whatever your use, microsound is a captivating aspect of ultra- minimal electronic music. For a nice list of Microsound artist, label & discussion list links check out: http://www.microsound.org/ -->-Lance--- lance@inaudible.com p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-04 01:36M Merceras with most new music it's all a matter of equilibrium. Microscopic sounds are starting t
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as with most new music it's all a matter of equilibrium. Microscopic sounds are starting to make the transition from a new trend to a more established subgenre. While it will retain to some extent its own niche audience (one which developed quite rapidly, from my own observation) it will inevitably begin to become assimilated into the larger scheme of things musically, a phenomenon which is nothing new and is not limited to electronic music. It seems like a lot of the more extreme minimal stuff out there is pushing it almost to its limits, and it will be interesting to see where it goes. I think the "pendulum" so to speak is going to start coming back toward more musicality, though, if the last few years of the same back and forth pattern are any indication. Microscopic stuff, some of it is great, there seems to be some rather average stuff as well as is the case with any new music trend. I really like the majority of the Mille Plateaux stuff I've heard, and the 12K comp I picked up is good too..... but I still have to give highest praise to Oval's entire discography, since he did it first and, in my opinion, consistently does it better, if less extremely. Also, Panacea's "Brasilia" made some interesting combinations of his more hardcore d&b background along with microscopic sounds and harsh noise.... not entirely listenable, but some interesting sounds and ideas :-)
quoted 35 lines From: "k. aleh" <eatthis@xs4all.nl>>From: "k. aleh" <eatthis@xs4all.nl> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 07:51:59 +0200 > >i don't know if it all comes down to the micro stuff in the future, but i >sure think that the influences of all this microscopic stuff will be heard >in the next months/years. > >but i don't think that it will be as big as warp. > >but io can advise people to go and see/hear a gig by rijoy ikeda or noto, >or whom ever. really great. ii heard ikeda/noto are going to do a cd >together (saw that one live, brilliant) > >music for your ears/mind > > > >Andreas Tilliander wrote: > > > >> to me it sometimes seems that the minimal side is the future of idm. > >because > >www.xs4all.nl/~eatthis > >out already: ragina-kudo parto du: various artist rmx a song > >spring release (out already) : endorphins: dedication ep > >post-summer release: (3th week of sept.): kaihoisa 10": d' enborage & >tronikgatan - double A-side 10". >___________________________________________________________________________ > >end of message - but keep enjoying your childhood >_________________________________________________
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2000-09-04 04:05Cichli@aol.comum, what exactly is the "microscopic sound"? the only context clue i could get from the di
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um, what exactly is the "microscopic sound"? the only context clue i could get from the discussion is that is very minimal....are there some examples i can hear or can someone at least try to explain this? :jason (ecux) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-04 04:56ingrassia/colovini>are there some > examples i > can hear or can someone at least try to explain this? www.f
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quoted 3 lines are there some>are there some > examples i > can hear or can someone at least try to explain this?
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2000-09-06 18:59analog lifeformOK, so in YOUR opinion what is the future of IDM...? Armand Van Heldon? >From: Tim Hecker
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OK, so in YOUR opinion what is the future of IDM...? Armand Van Heldon?
quoted 66 lines From: Tim Hecker <thecker@colba.net>>From: Tim Hecker <thecker@colba.net> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 16:52:50 -0400 > >12k/mego/clickclank et al will never be the "future of idm" >while its fun to listen to when you take acid...its mostly >the pencil neck geeks who get into it and dont know alot >about sex. >i use minimal shit to back up blacksabbath & speed metal >on the decks. > >people need to fucking party and people should start >understanding this simple fact! > >:) > > > >Andreas Tilliander wrote: > > > to me it sometimes seems that the minimal side is the future of idm. >because > > i?m tired of people making autechre-like songs, with covers which >reminds me > > of designers republic, and songtitles like aster chreti or something >like > > that. > > > > but when 12k, mego, raster noton and others, get sold in as many >copies as > > the warpstuff, then everyone else will make music like that. so >where?s the > > underground in that? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Scott Allison [mailto:Scott_Allison@Mediacentric.com] > > Sent: den 31 augusti 2000 23:39 > > To: 'idm@hyperreal.org' > > Subject: [idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? > > > > Just wondering if anyone pays any attention to the smaller sounds in >the > > electronic universe? I am really into ae, but i also love stuff off >12K and > > other such labels. Just wanted to know what everyone thinks of the >minimal > > side of idm. > > > > -scott > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-09-06 19:00analog lifeformYou're on the wrong list. >i use minimal shit to back up blacksabbath & speed metal >on th
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You're on the wrong list.
quoted 2 lines i use minimal shit to back up blacksabbath & speed metal>i use minimal shit to back up blacksabbath & speed metal >on the decks.
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2000-09-06 19:11atomlyOn Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 12:00:05PM -0700, analog lifeform wrote: > >i use minimal shit to
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On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 12:00:05PM -0700, analog lifeform wrote:
quoted 3 lines i use minimal shit to back up blacksabbath & speed metal> >i use minimal shit to back up blacksabbath & speed metal > >on the decks. > You're on the wrong list.
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2000-09-07 08:47Andreas Tilliandercould someone please show me some "idm" this isn´t copied/influenced from the works of aut
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could someone please show me some "idm" this isn´t copied/influenced from the works of autechre, or any other warpact f0r that matter? i´m sure they exist, but who are they? ____________________________ a. http://komp.cjb.net -----Original Message----- From: glammer@another.com [mailto:glammer@another.com] Sent: den 7 september 2000 10:43 To: idm@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? This message uses a character set that is not supported by the Internet Service. To view the original message content, open the attached message. If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to disk, and then open it using a viewer that can display the original character set. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-07 15:15DruscaOn Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Andreas Tilliander wrote: > could someone please show me some "idm" th
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On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Andreas Tilliander wrote:
quoted 2 lines could someone please show me some "idm" this isn?t copied/influenced from> could someone please show me some "idm" this isn?t copied/influenced from > the works of autechre,...
As far as IDM acts which aren't emulating Autechre, off the top of my head I'd list Super_Collider, Mouse On Mars, Bisk, Atom Heart, Freeform... Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-07 08:56Ben HatcheltHang, on, hang on, surly we're not saying that all modern 'idm' is copied/influenced from
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Hang, on, hang on, surly we're not saying that all modern 'idm' is copied/influenced from the works of autechre? I mean, don't get me wrong, they are v good, but let's not go menthol here! --- Andreas Tilliander <andreas.tilliander@deo.com> wrote: > could someone please show me some "idm" this isn´t
quoted 30 lines copied/influenced from> copied/influenced from > the works of autechre, or any other warpact f0r that > matter? i´m sure they > exist, but who are they? > > > ____________________________ > a. http://komp.cjb.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: glammer@another.com > [mailto:glammer@another.com] > Sent: den 7 september 2000 10:43 > To: idm@hyperreal.com > Subject: Re: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic > stuff? > > > This message uses a character set that is not > supported by the Internet > Service. To view the original message content, > open the attached message. > If the text doesn't display correctly, save the > attachment to disk, and then > open it using a viewer that can display the original > character set. > >
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2000-09-07 09:33glammer@another.comSo what do the macho-ravers listen to then???? *lol* -----Original Message----- From : ana
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So what do the macho-ravers listen to then???? *lol* -----Original Message----- From : analog lifeform <analog_life@hotmail.com> To : thecker@colba.net; idm@hyperreal.org Date : 06 September 2000 20:00:05 Subject : Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff?
quoted 17 lines You're on the wrong list.>You're on the wrong list. > >>i use minimal shit to back up blacksabbath & speed metal >>on the decks. > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-09-07 09:43glammer@another.comI don?t know......it seems like everytime people want to point to something that?s really
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I don?t know......it seems like everytime people want to point to something that?s really innovative they always drag up minimalism. It?s like either you?re copying Autechre or you?re into this "new" fantastic thing that?s the future of electronic music. I mean, you don?t necesarilly have to sound like Autechre just because you?re not making unlistenable experimental stuff... To me Fennezs, Farmers manual and tha whole Mego scene is not all that. -----Original Message----- From : analog lifeform <analog_life@hotmail.com> To : thecker@colba.net; idm@hyperreal.org Date : 06 September 2000 19:59:12 Subject : Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff?
quoted 84 lines OK, so in YOUR opinion what is the future of IDM...?>OK, so in YOUR opinion what is the future of IDM...? > >Armand Van Heldon? > > >>From: Tim Hecker <thecker@colba.net> >>To: idm@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >>Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 16:52:50 -0400 >> >>12k/mego/clickclank et al will never be the ?future of idm? >>while its fun to listen to when you take acid...its mostly >>the pencil neck geeks who get into it and dont know alot >>about sex. >>i use minimal shit to back up blacksabbath & speed metal >>on the decks. >> >>people need to fucking party and people should start >>understanding this simple fact! >> >>:) >> >> >> >>Andreas Tilliander wrote: >> >> > to me it sometimes seems that the minimal side is the future of idm. >>because >> > i?m tired of people making autechre-like songs, with covers which >>reminds me >> > of designers republic, and songtitles like aster chreti or something >>like >> > that. >> > >> > but when 12k, mego, raster noton and others, get sold in as many >>copies as >> > the warpstuff, then everyone else will make music like that. so >>where?s the >> > underground in that? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Scott Allison [mailto:Scott_Allison@Mediacentric.com] >> > Sent: den 31 augusti 2000 23:39 >> > To: 'idm@hyperreal.org' >> > Subject: [idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >> > >> > Just wondering if anyone pays any attention to the smaller sounds in >>the >> > electronic universe? I am really into ae, but i also love stuff off >>12K and >> > other such labels. Just wanted to know what everyone thinks of the >>minimal >> > side of idm. >> > >> > -scott >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-09-07 20:01M Mercer>From: Andreas Tilliander <andreas.tilliander@deo.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.com >Subject: RE
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quoted 8 lines From: Andreas Tilliander <andreas.tilliander@deo.com>>From: Andreas Tilliander <andreas.tilliander@deo.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.com >Subject: RE: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:47:36 +0200 > >could someone please show me some "idm" this isn?t copied/influenced from >the works of autechre, or any other warpact f0r that matter? i?m sure they >exist, but who are they?
i'd say matmos does a pretty good job of steering clear of other people's sounds. pretty original stuff. oval i suppose verges on microscopic sounds if you want to get picky, but his work has forged virtually an entire genre since oval's inception in the early-mid nineties. these are 2 fairly mid-high profile acts that dodge comparisons to most other artists, and if anything (esp in the case of oval) cause comparisons when examining newer, less original artists. my 2? matt +------------------------------------+ m.mercer :: systm audio-visual communicator http://www.mp3.com/systm mmercer@kent.edu :: vletrmx@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-07 21:12Roy G Bivwell, there are idm artists influenced by... minimal/house like Sutekh or minimal/dub like
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well, there are idm artists influenced by... minimal/house like Sutekh or minimal/dub like kit clayton or jazz/world like Him or jazz/post rock like savath & savales or drill&bass/microsound like hrvatski etc...
quoted 5 lines Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:47:36 +0200>>Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:47:36 +0200 >> >>could someone please show me some "idm" this >>isn4t copied/influenced from >>the works of autechre, or any other warpact >>f0r that matter? i4m sure they >>exist, but who are they?
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2000-09-11 06:03analog lifeformHmmmmmm.....Atari Teenage Riot? >From: glammer@another.com >To: idm@hyperreal.com >Subject
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Hmmmmmm.....Atari Teenage Riot?
quoted 12 lines From: glammer@another.com>From: glammer@another.com >To: idm@hyperreal.com >Subject: Re: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:33:12 +0100 (GMT+01:00) > >So what do the macho-ravers listen to then???? *lol* > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
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quoted 30 lines To : thecker@colba.net; idm@hyperreal.org>To : thecker@colba.net; idm@hyperreal.org >Date : 06 September 2000 20:00:05 >Subject : Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? > > >You're on the wrong list. > > > >>i use minimal shit to back up blacksabbath & speed metal > >>on the decks. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > >Be whoever you want to be with another.com >Just click here: >http://another.com/jump.jsp?destDesc=another.com/login.jsp?sig=390 > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2000-09-11 18:59rebecca263You can only EASILY get away with something "crappy" if the audience is a bunch of dummies
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You can only EASILY get away with something "crappy" if the audience is a bunch of dummies. "Experimental stuff" is NOT the same as other sounds. It requires a thought and effort to begin to understand . Not that experimental can't be good to just listen to, haven't you heard the latest betabodega coalition comp or some of Fals.ch label? And who can ever say they don't like Raymond Scott? or Pierre Henry? I suppose someone could, but I don't think it would be because they were in the realm of talent of a Britney Spears- and Raymond Scott was amazingly prolific! By the by, a LOT of EVERY genre is not that great, or haven't you noticed? That is no reason to exclude a genre from your listening. ----- Original Message ----- From: <glammer@another.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 2:35 PM Subject: Re: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? Well....it´s not that I have a problem with experimental stuff, it´s just that a lot of it is not that great. You can easily to get away with something crappy if you call it avant-garde. And I think it would be quite boring if everyone in the electronic music scene (or whatever you should call it..) started making music which only consists of noise and glitches. On the other hand, a band like DAT Politics shows that you can have the best of two worlds: weirdo noise AND silly melodies. -----Original Message----- From : analog lifeform <analog_life@hotmail.com> To : glammer@another.com Date : 11 September 2000 07:09:56 Subject : Re: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? I can see your perspective, but at the same time I think it all has it's own
quoted 7 lines value. It's seems that are a number of new things that are being done to>value. It's seems that are a number of new things that are being done to >further electronic music in general, and I personally think that minimalism >is one of those things. > >On the other hand, as someone who's been a musician for 15 years (and not >just a button pusher!) I can see why the whole minimal thing is a bit hard >to swallow for some people. It does lack some of the emotion that is
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quoted 14 lines associated with "music".>associated with "music". > >I think having I background on the technical side of electronic music makes >listening to, and appreciateing, minimal stuff a lot easier. > >Sorry for the diatribe! > >>From: glammer@another.com >>To: idm@hyperreal.com >>Subject: Re: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >>Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:43:17 +0100 (GMT+01:00) >> >> >>I don´t know......it seems like everytime people want to point to
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quoted 3 lines that´s really innovative they always drag up minimalism. It´s like either>>that´s really innovative they always drag up minimalism. It´s like either >>you´re copying Autechre or you´re into this "new" fantastic thing that´s >>the future of electronic music. I mean, you don´t necesarilly have to
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quoted 89 lines like Autechre just because you´re not making unlistenable experimental>>like Autechre just because you´re not making unlistenable experimental >>stuff... >>To me Fennezs, Farmers manual and tha whole Mego scene is not all that. >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From : analog lifeform <analog_life@hotmail.com> >>To : thecker@colba.net; idm@hyperreal.org >>Date : 06 September 2000 19:59:12 >>Subject : Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >> >> >OK, so in YOUR opinion what is the future of IDM...? >> > >> >Armand Van Heldon? >> > >> > >> >>From: Tim Hecker <thecker@colba.net> >> >>To: idm@hyperreal.org >> >>Subject: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >> >>Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 16:52:50 -0400 >> >> >> >>12k/mego/clickclank et al will never be the "future of idm" >> >>while its fun to listen to when you take acid...its mostly >> >>the pencil neck geeks who get into it and dont know alot >> >>about sex. >> >>i use minimal shit to back up blacksabbath & speed metal >> >>on the decks. >> >> >> >>people need to fucking party and people should start >> >>understanding this simple fact! >> >> >> >>:) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Andreas Tilliander wrote: >> >> >> >> > to me it sometimes seems that the minimal side is the future of idm. >> >>because >> >> > i´m tired of people making autechre-like songs, with covers which >> >>reminds me >> >> > of designers republic, and songtitles like aster chreti or something >> >>like >> >> > that. >> >> > >> >> > but when 12k, mego, raster noton and others, get sold in as many >> >>copies as >> >> > the warpstuff, then everyone else will make music like that. so >> >>where´s the >> >> > underground in that? >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: Scott Allison [mailto:Scott_Allison@Mediacentric.com] >> >> > Sent: den 31 augusti 2000 23:39 >> >> > To: 'idm@hyperreal.org' >> >> > Subject: [idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >> >> > >> >> > Just wondering if anyone pays any attention to the smaller sounds in >> >>the >> >> > electronic universe? I am really into ae, but i also love stuff off >> >>12K and >> >> > other such labels. Just wanted to know what everyone thinks of the >> >>minimal >> >> > side of idm. >> >> > >> >> > -scott >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> > >> >_________________________________________________________________________ >> >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at
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2000-09-11 19:35glammer@another.comWell....it?s not that I have a problem with experimental stuff, it?s just that a lot of it
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Well....it?s not that I have a problem with experimental stuff, it?s just that a lot of it is not that great. You can easily to get away with something crappy if you call it avant-garde. And I think it would be quite boring if everyone in the electronic music scene (or whatever you should call it..) started making music which only consists of noise and glitches. On the other hand, a band like DAT Politics shows that you can have the best of two worlds: weirdo noise AND silly melodies. -----Original Message----- From : analog lifeform <analog_life@hotmail.com> To : glammer@another.com Date : 11 September 2000 07:09:56 Subject : Re: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? I can see your perspective, but at the same time I think it all has it's own
quoted 137 lines value. It's seems that are a number of new things that are being done to>value. It's seems that are a number of new things that are being done to >further electronic music in general, and I personally think that minimalism >is one of those things. > >On the other hand, as someone who's been a musician for 15 years (and not >just a button pusher!) I can see why the whole minimal thing is a bit hard >to swallow for some people. It does lack some of the emotion that is usually >associated with ?music?. > >I think having I background on the technical side of electronic music makes >listening to, and appreciateing, minimal stuff a lot easier. > >Sorry for the diatribe! > >>From: glammer@another.com >>To: idm@hyperreal.com >>Subject: Re: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >>Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:43:17 +0100 (GMT+01:00) >> >> >>I don?t know......it seems like everytime people want to point to something >>that?s really innovative they always drag up minimalism. It?s like either >>you?re copying Autechre or you?re into this ?new? fantastic thing that?s >>the future of electronic music. I mean, you don?t necesarilly have to sound >>like Autechre just because you?re not making unlistenable experimental >>stuff... >>To me Fennezs, Farmers manual and tha whole Mego scene is not all that. >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From : analog lifeform <analog_life@hotmail.com> >>To : thecker@colba.net; idm@hyperreal.org >>Date : 06 September 2000 19:59:12 >>Subject : Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >> >> >OK, so in YOUR opinion what is the future of IDM...? >> > >> >Armand Van Heldon? >> > >> > >> >>From: Tim Hecker <thecker@colba.net> >> >>To: idm@hyperreal.org >> >>Subject: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >> >>Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 16:52:50 -0400 >> >> >> >>12k/mego/clickclank et al will never be the ?future of idm? >> >>while its fun to listen to when you take acid...its mostly >> >>the pencil neck geeks who get into it and dont know alot >> >>about sex. >> >>i use minimal shit to back up blacksabbath & speed metal >> >>on the decks. >> >> >> >>people need to fucking party and people should start >> >>understanding this simple fact! >> >> >> >>:) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Andreas Tilliander wrote: >> >> >> >> > to me it sometimes seems that the minimal side is the future of idm. >> >>because >> >> > i?m tired of people making autechre-like songs, with covers which >> >>reminds me >> >> > of designers republic, and songtitles like aster chreti or something >> >>like >> >> > that. >> >> > >> >> > but when 12k, mego, raster noton and others, get sold in as many >> >>copies as >> >> > the warpstuff, then everyone else will make music like that. so >> >>where?s the >> >> > underground in that? >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: Scott Allison [mailto:Scott_Allison@Mediacentric.com] >> >> > Sent: den 31 augusti 2000 23:39 >> >> > To: 'idm@hyperreal.org' >> >> > Subject: [idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff? >> >> > >> >> > Just wondering if anyone pays any attention to the smaller sounds in >> >>the >> >> > electronic universe? I am really into ae, but i also love stuff off >> >>12K and >> >> > other such labels. Just wanted to know what everyone thinks of the >> >>minimal >> >> > side of idm. >> >> > >> >> > -scott >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> > >> >_________________________________________________________________________ >> >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. >> > >> >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >> >http://profiles.msn.com. >> > >> > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > >> > >> >>Be whoever you want to be with another.com >>Just click here: >>http://another.com/jump.jsp?destDesc=another.com/login.jsp?sig=390 >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > >
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2000-09-12 01:01ianso, is this term "microscopic music" everyones been throwing around just minimalism? jeez,
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so, is this term "microscopic music" everyones been throwing around just minimalism? jeez, I hope not. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-12 01:21andrei@world.std.comrebecca263 wrote: > Not that experimental can't be good to just listen to, haven't you hea
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quoted 4 lines Not that experimental can't be good to just listen to, haven't you heard the lat> Not that experimental can't be good to just listen to, haven't you heard the latest > betabodega > coalition comp or some of Fals.ch label? And who can ever say they don't > like Raymond Scott? or Pierre Henry?
Although it's a pretty enjoyable listen I don't see what's particularly "experimental" about the bbc comp (assuming you're referring to Frente 57) ? Surprised to hear that from someone familiar with Scott and Henry's work. Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org