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2000-08-26 01:04Scott Pactor [idm] Demystifying BetaBodega Coalition...
2000-08-26 04:08John D. Re: [idm] Demystifying BetaBodega Coalition...
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2000-08-26 05:31steve Re: [idm] Demystifying BetaBodega Coalition...
2000-08-26 20:32Ricardo Velarde Re: [idm] Demystifying BetaBodega Coalition...
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2000-08-26 23:09Ricardo Velarde Re: [idm] Demystifying BetaBodega Coalition...
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2000-08-26 01:04Scott PactorIDM, So I'm intrigued by this whole "beta bodega coalition" dealie. On their website they
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IDM, So I'm intrigued by this whole "beta bodega coalition" dealie. On their website they have a show scheduled featuring Funkstorung, which impresses my feeble little mind. None the less, I am confused by them and I solicit IDMers(or members of BBC) to clarify the situation. After a thorough purusal of the their website I have gleaned the following information: 1. They have Members: Tupac Amaru, Datathief, needle, hamijama, tpm, ruminhaui, function, counterpoint, lord sp... etc. 2. They release records... 3. They have left of center politics... 4. They host club nights (revolutionary club nights?) 5. They have a cryptic website. So I guess my intitial inquiry is: 1. Has anybody gone to one of these events they sponsor? Was it revolutionary? 2. What is the sincerity level of the politics involved? (Did any of you out there listen to Nation of Ulysses back in the day? Is Beta Bodega a high-tech version of NoU? Are they like Underground Resistance?) 3. What, if any, are the goals and ambitions of BetaBodega coalition?(to be a rocking record label or lead a revolution?) 4. Oh yeah, what does the music sound like? Personally, I think music-discussed-on-this-list could use a more overtly political edge. (see ps for elaboration on this comment). Most of the stuff discussed on this list is hardly played in clubs anyways, so there isn't much of risk of alienating people. Since I saw a Beta Bodega post on this website not-to-long-ago, I'm fairly certain that members are on this list and I invite them to lay down a manifesto (or two)... Scott PS: By "more overtly political edge" I am not referring to adding lyrics that rail against corporate power. That has been done. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-26 04:08John D.> None the less, I am confused by them and I solicit > IDMers(or members of BBC) to clarif
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quoted 17 lines None the less, I am confused by them and I solicit> None the less, I am confused by them and I solicit > IDMers(or members of BBC) to clarify the situation. > After a thorough purusal of the their website I have > 3. What, if any, are the goals and ambitions of > BetaBodega coalition?(to be a rocking record label or > lead a revolution?) > Personally, I think music-discussed-on-this-list could > use a more overtly political edge. (see ps for > elaboration on this comment). Most of the stuff > discussed on this list is hardly played in clubs > anyways, so there isn't much of risk of alienating > people. > > PS: By "more overtly political edge" I am not > referring to adding lyrics that rail against corporate > power. That has been done. >
All I know is that if there's a revolution, I want T. Brinkmann to be leading it.... can't wait for the new CD! Oh yeah I'll follow Hrvatski too. I think about politics for hours every time I hear Routine Exercise. When's the next full-length coming? John "Music is the opium of the masses, viva la IDM" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-26 05:09Magicnerd8@aol.comIn a message dated 08/26/2000 5:30:31 AM GMT Daylight Time, saw123@ixpres.com writes: << o
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In a message dated 08/26/2000 5:30:31 AM GMT Daylight Time, saw123@ixpres.com writes: << on the political tip...check out adbusters magazine if you haven't already. i won't try and characterize the mag because i belive it is more than just an anti-corporate mag...encompasses a bit more than that also, http://www.d2kla.org/ check out that site and of course http://www.gristmagazine.com/grist/ where is hrvatski's stuff available? I keep hearing about him but can't find his stuff...not that i've begun an all obsessing search for it...but I'd like to check it out >> Good to see political tendencies on a usually a-political list. Anybody else feel that the latest issue of Adbusters had the most ridiculous cover EVER? Too lazy to say more! ADBOT --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-26 05:31steveon the political tip...check out adbusters magazine if you haven't already. i won't try an
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on the political tip...check out adbusters magazine if you haven't already. i won't try and characterize the mag because i belive it is more than just an anti-corporate mag...encompasses a bit more than that also, http://www.d2kla.org/ check out that site and of course http://www.gristmagazine.com/grist/ where is hrvatski's stuff available? I keep hearing about him but can't find his stuff...not that i've begun an all obsessing search for it...but I'd like to check it out ----------
quoted 5 lines From: "John D." <jdalton@mail.net.tw>>From: "John D." <jdalton@mail.net.tw> >To: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] Demystifying BetaBodega Coalition... >Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2000, 8:08 PM >
quoted 32 lines None the less, I am confused by them and I solicit>> None the less, I am confused by them and I solicit >> IDMers(or members of BBC) to clarify the situation. >> After a thorough purusal of the their website I have >> 3. What, if any, are the goals and ambitions of >> BetaBodega coalition?(to be a rocking record label or >> lead a revolution?) >> Personally, I think music-discussed-on-this-list could >> use a more overtly political edge. (see ps for >> elaboration on this comment). Most of the stuff >> discussed on this list is hardly played in clubs >> anyways, so there isn't much of risk of alienating >> people. >> >> PS: By "more overtly political edge" I am not >> referring to adding lyrics that rail against corporate >> power. That has been done. >> > All I know is that if there's a revolution, I want T. Brinkmann to be > leading it.... can't wait for the new CD! Oh yeah I'll follow Hrvatski too. > I think about politics for hours every time I hear Routine Exercise. When's > the next full-length coming? > > John > > "Music is the opium of the masses, viva la IDM" > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-08-26 20:32Ricardo Velarde"-Bullets and Bombs aren't the only ways to KILL our people.BAD HOSPITALS KILL our people.
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"-Bullets and Bombs aren't the only ways to KILL our people.BAD HOSPITALS KILL our people. ROTTEN , FORGOTTEN BUILDINGS KILL our people. GARBAGE and DISEASE KILL our people!" PALANTE ( print on a betabodega release: TPM) Is POLITIC????? I thing It's about NECESSARY KNOWLEDGE!!!!!!!!!! Ricardo Velarde> Lima, Peru< Southamerica. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-26 21:23ingrassia/coloviniRicardo: A mí me parece que la discusión sobre qué es un "conocimiento necesario" es una d
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Ricardo: A mí me parece que la discusión sobre qué es un "conocimiento necesario" es una discusión política. Evidentemente no en el sentido de la "política hecha por políticos" que todos conocemos y detestamos sino en el sentido de las discusiones sobre las maneras posibles de "estar juntos" que nos afectan a todos. Saludos, Franco Rosario, Argentina. Sudamérica.
quoted 28 lines -----Mensaje original-----> -----Mensaje original----- > De: Ricardo Velarde [mailto:rvelarde@amauta.rcp.net.pe] > Enviado el: Sábado, 26 de Agosto de 2000 05:33 p.m. > Para: idm@hyperreal.org > Asunto: Re: [idm] Demystifying BetaBodega Coalition... > > > > > "-Bullets and Bombs aren't the only ways to KILL our people.BAD HOSPITALS > KILL our people. ROTTEN , FORGOTTEN BUILDINGS KILL our people. > GARBAGE and DISEASE KILL our people!" > PALANTE > > > > ( print on a betabodega release: TPM) > > Is POLITIC????? I thing It's about NECESSARY KNOWLEDGE!!!!!!!!!! > > > Ricardo Velarde> > Lima, Peru< Southamerica. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-08-26 23:09Ricardo VelardeSORRY FOR THE ERROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,,,,,,,,,,,I THINK IS NECESSARY KNOWLEDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SORRY FOR THE ERROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,,,,,,,,,,,I THINK IS NECESSARY KNOWLEDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I THINK !!? ----------
quoted 5 lines From: "Ricardo Velarde" <rvelarde@amauta.rcp.net.pe>>From: "Ricardo Velarde" <rvelarde@amauta.rcp.net.pe> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] Demystifying BetaBodega Coalition... >Date: Sat, Aug 26, 2000, 3:33 PM >
quoted 22 lines "-Bullets and Bombs aren't the only ways to KILL our people.BAD HOSPITALS> > > "-Bullets and Bombs aren't the only ways to KILL our people.BAD HOSPITALS > KILL our people. ROTTEN , FORGOTTEN BUILDINGS KILL our people. > GARBAGE and DISEASE KILL our people!" > PALANTE > > > > ( print on a betabodega release: TPM) > > Is POLITIC????? I thinK It's about NECESSARY KNOWLEDGE!!!!!!!!!! > > > Ricardo Velarde> > Lima, Peru< Southamerica. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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