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2000-08-16 19:08[idm] question: brian eno/david byrne
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2000-08-16 19:08MickPick@aol.comI've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do they sound like an
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I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do they sound like and which ones are the best, most recmended? thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-16 22:10Rusty HouseholterAt 03:08 PM 8/16/2000 -0400, MickPick@aol.com wrote: >I've heard that these two guy's coll
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At 03:08 PM 8/16/2000 -0400, MickPick@aol.com wrote:
quoted 2 lines I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do they>I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do they >sound like and which ones are the best, most recmended?
Do you mean like when Eno worked with the Talking Heads? Or do you mean the "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts" where they both collaborated. "...Ghosts" is very sample heavy of TV news and world samples, the last time I heard it and remember. It was very sort of trance-like as well (no not that "Trance"). I really like it, so pick it up, very recommended. His albums with the Talking Heads are mostly all good. "More Songs about Buildings and Food" has a really nice version of "Take me to the River"...and "Remain in the Light" is pretty top too. I guess I'd say the collabs in general sound like African tribal music or whatever... Rusty --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-17 08:41Irene McCOn 16 Aug 2000, MickPick@aol.com wrote re [idm] question: brian eno/david byr: > I've hear
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On 16 Aug 2000, MickPick@aol.com wrote re [idm] question: brian eno/david byr:
quoted 2 lines I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What> I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What > do they sound like and which ones are the best, most recmended?
My Life in the Bush of Ghosts. Seminal. Recommended. Vital even. 1981. The death of punk and the emergency of cut 'n paste. Bye bye I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-17 09:04Wendy Kmy life in the bush of ghosts, came out mid 80's. should be round on CD. >I've heard that
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my life in the bush of ghosts, came out mid 80's. should be round on CD.
quoted 4 lines I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do they>I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do they >sound like and which ones are the best, most recmended? > >thanks
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2000-08-16 22:26AeOtaku@aol.comIn a message dated 8/16/00 3:07:54 PM, rdhouse@ilstu.edu writes: << >I've heard that these
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In a message dated 8/16/00 3:07:54 PM, rdhouse@ilstu.edu writes: <<
quoted 2 lines I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do they>I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do they >sound like and which ones are the best, most recmended? >>
I would actually say the best collaborations of Brian Eno's are those with pianist Harold Budd, particularly "Ambient 2: The Plateaux of Mirrors" and "The Pearl", both of which are fantastic, among the best in the ambient genre (next to "Air I&II", "World Receiver", "Phaedra" & "Rubycon", and Eno's own Ambient 1 and 4.) The sort of music that culls out more emotion than one can sometimes deal with. Totally recommended. Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-17 18:13Gause, BrianWell, the penultimate Eno/Byrne purchase is "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts". Way back from
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Well, the penultimate Eno/Byrne purchase is "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts". Way back from 1981...sampling, tape loops, the original experimental genius of our time. Bar none. This stuff is brilliant. go see amazon for reviews, comments and samples...then buy it. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000002MM1/o/qid=966536498/sr=8-1/ref =aps_sr_pm_1_3/102-0217595-3339317 ---brian ------------------------ Brian W. Gause Senior Technical Writer SECTORBASE.com 568 Howard Street First Floor San Francisco, CA 94105 Direct: (415) 365-8203 Fax: (415) 365-8263 -----Original Message----- From: joseph [mailto:jdierke@qwest.com] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 11:16 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: [idm] re: question: brian eno/david byrne
quoted 1 line I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do>I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do
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for Eno/Byrne - *Remain In Light* and *Fear Of Music* (both talking heads) also very recomended - the Fripp and Eno colabs - *Evening Star*, *No Pussyfooting* and the straight ambient stuff - *Thursday Afternoon *, and *Neroli*. o o o-----------------o joseph dierker o o o-----------------o jade@310.org http://www.310.org 206.322.3059 o o o-----------------o oo o-----o --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-18 07:57Lee AzzarelloAn interesting useless fact about a that album...the track 'Mea Culpa' was used as transit
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An interesting useless fact about a that album...the track 'Mea Culpa' was used as transition music in the Oliver Stone film Wall Street. -Lee -----Original Message----- From: Gause, Brian [mailto:bgause@SECTORBASE.COM] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 11:13 AM To: 'joseph'; idm@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [idm] re: question: brian eno/david byrne Well, the penultimate Eno/Byrne purchase is "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts". Way back from 1981...sampling, tape loops, the original experimental genius of our time. Bar none. This stuff is brilliant. go see amazon for reviews, comments and samples...then buy it. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000002MM1/o/qid=966536498/sr=8-1/ref =aps_sr_pm_1_3/102-0217595-3339317 ---brian ------------------------ Brian W. Gause Senior Technical Writer SECTORBASE.com 568 Howard Street First Floor San Francisco, CA 94105 Direct: (415) 365-8203 Fax: (415) 365-8263 -----Original Message----- From: joseph [mailto:jdierke@qwest.com] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 11:16 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: [idm] re: question: brian eno/david byrne
quoted 1 line I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do>I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do
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for Eno/Byrne - *Remain In Light* and *Fear Of Music* (both talking heads) also very recomended - the Fripp and Eno colabs - *Evening Star*, *No Pussyfooting* and the straight ambient stuff - *Thursday Afternoon *, and *Neroli*. o o o-----------------o joseph dierker o o o-----------------o jade@310.org http://www.310.org 206.322.3059 o o o-----------------o oo o-----o --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-17 18:16joseph>I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do they >sound like
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quoted 2 lines I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do they>I've heard that these two guy's collaborations are pretty cool. What do they >sound like and which ones are the best, most recmended?
for Eno/Byrne - *Remain In Light* and *Fear Of Music* (both talking heads) also very recomended - the Fripp and Eno colabs - *Evening Star*, *No Pussyfooting* and the straight ambient stuff - *Thursday Afternoon *, and *Neroli*. o o o-----------------o joseph dierker o o o-----------------o jade@310.org http://www.310.org 206.322.3059 o o o-----------------o oo o-----o --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-17 18:29andrij kopytkoAt 11:16 AM 8/17/00 -0700, you wrote: >for Eno/Byrne - >*Remain In Light* and *Fear Of Mus
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At 11:16 AM 8/17/00 -0700, you wrote:
quoted 2 lines for Eno/Byrne ->for Eno/Byrne - >*Remain In Light* and *Fear Of Music* (both talking heads)
Also not to be forgotten, the actual Eno/Byrne album "My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts." This album is 30 years ahead of its time (and it was recorded in 1980). -- andrij. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-17 19:18Dave SegalWendy K <wendy@ninjatune.net> wrote: >my life in the bush of ghosts, came out mid 80's. >s
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quoted 2 lines my life in the bush of ghosts, came out mid 80's.>my life in the bush of ghosts, came out mid 80's. >should be round on CD.
Uh, hate to nitpick, but it actually came out in 1981. It's one of the earliest--and best--examples of sampladelic music; I highly recommended it. Btw, for the CD version, Byrne/Eno dropped "Qu'ran" due to pressure from fundamentalist Islamic groups, who claimed it was blasphemous to use words from the Koran with this type of music. They replaced that track with "Very, Very Hungry." And everybody lived happily ever after. Amen. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST [www.wcsb.org] np: Nigo- Ape Sounds (Mo Wax) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-17 19:29Ernesto Ikerd>Btw, for the CD version, Byrne/Eno dropped "Qu'ran" >due to pressure from fundamentalist
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quoted 6 lines Btw, for the CD version, Byrne/Eno dropped "Qu'ran">Btw, for the CD version, Byrne/Eno dropped "Qu'ran" >due to pressure from fundamentalist Islamic groups, >who claimed it was blasphemous to use words from >the Koran with this type of music. They replaced >that track with "Very, Very Hungry." And everybody lived >happily ever after. Amen.
Since you brought it up - Is there a type of music where the Koran is open season? So ambient music is blashphemous, but say - the distorted & overdriven beats of Muslimgauze is Alla-riffic? I dont mean to be the American's (great satan) advocate here, just all curious now.. ernie Ernesto Ikerd, (817) 763-4795 Company Graphics, Dept 17, MZ-4202 Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company Fort Worth, Texas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-17 19:36andrij kopytkoAt 02:29 PM 8/17/00 -0500, you wrote: >So ambient music is blashphemous, but say - the dis
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At 02:29 PM 8/17/00 -0500, you wrote:
quoted 3 lines So ambient music is blashphemous, but say - the distorted & overdriven>So ambient music is blashphemous, but say - the distorted & overdriven >beats of Muslimgauze is Alla-riffic? I dont mean to be the American's >(great satan) advocate here, just all curious now..
I don't think Muslimgauze requires the OK from the Jihad Council, because he's not exactly on the same scale as, say, the Talking Heads in 1981. -- andrij. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-17 19:33Jeff Shoemaker> I don't think Muslimgauze requires the OK from the Jihad Council, because > he's not exa
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quoted 2 lines I don't think Muslimgauze requires the OK from the Jihad Council, because> I don't think Muslimgauze requires the OK from the Jihad Council, because > he's not exactly on the same scale as, say, the Talking Heads in 1981.
man, if we're talking about true scale then Muslimgauze wins. seen the box set? it's the size of Chutes and Ladders when it's unfolded. Sluggin' for Allah. ------------ 1642 try 621 ------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-17 21:57Dave SegalErnesto Ikerd <IkerdEA@lmtas.lmco.com> wrote: >>Btw, for the CD version, Byrne/Eno dropped
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quoted 13 lines Btw, for the CD version, Byrne/Eno dropped "Qu'ran">>Btw, for the CD version, Byrne/Eno dropped "Qu'ran" >>due to pressure from fundamentalist Islamic groups, >>who claimed it was blasphemous to use words from >>the Koran with this type of music. They replaced >>that track with "Very, Very Hungry." And everybody lived >>happily ever after. Amen. > >Since you brought it up - Is there a type of music where the Koran is >open season? > >So ambient music is blashphemous, but say - the distorted & overdriven >beats of Muslimgauze is Alla-riffic? I dont mean to be the American's >(great satan) advocate here, just all curious now..
I believe what got the Islamics' robes in a bunch was the use of *words* from the Koran; Muslimgauze didn't pillage the holy book (AFAIK) for extra propaganda power on his releases. But this discussion makes me wonder if any Palestinians ever heard Muslimgauze's music and if it ever helped their cause. I mean, did his music even *make it* to those Arab countries? Did he ever play any benefit shows there? And, totally gratuitously, I ask, would they consider Muslimgauze's beats "(Ara)phat"? Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST [www.wcsb.org] np: Circulation- Colours (Circulation) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-18 09:16Wendy KI not only have the album with Qu'Ran on it, I also have a promo single extended version.
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I not only have the album with Qu'Ran on it, I also have a promo single extended version. Dave, your post was news to me, but not surprising After spending two Decembers in Dahab, Sinai, Egypt I can confirm some ambient music has made it there, Orb, Biosphere, and lots of things I brought myself and played to the guys in the shops. The western musician who receives most respect is the formally known as Cat Stevens who turned Muslim and did an album explaining the Koran in English, and doing some original songs along with it. It's probably the most bootlegged cassette/CD in Egypt and always played to Westerners in hopes of purchase & subsequent conversion - a mission most Egyptians I came in contact were on. I was very interested in obtaining original traditional Bedouin music and Koran prayers, and this was difficult. Although I did have a Bedouin and his grandfather who took me on a five day hike sing to me, the recording gear I had with me was crap, so an opportunity was missed. I was shooed away several times standing outside the mosques (women just dont go there) trying to capture the evening call to prayer during Ramadan, which is some of the most enticing vocals I've ever heard. I did obtain a bootleg CD of some of the Koran prayers but it's entirely in Arabic, and I bought it primarily because of the emotive praying vocals which are more than hypnotic. But as I carried my purchase back to my hotel I must have been stopped 10 times to engage in bizarre religious conversion discussions. I've also got many 12"s by Muslimgauze from the mid=80's but never saw their music in Egypt and the local boys at Mr. Haride's record shop had never heard of them - they were more likely to have bootlegs of David Bowie, Janet Jackson, Hotel California, and excuse me, but really crap swingbeat, MOR. After several visits of listening to music, and looking thru their bootie CD's, they would thrust Egyptian pop music in my face, while I was trying to get more "authentic" local music- I did succeed in getting copies of Omar Farouk "Whirling Dervish" and was surprised to find that most of the more "traditional" Egyptian/Arabic stuff was actually released on obscure German labels and subsequently bootlegged. There is no shame in having a CD burner and copying anything to sell to Italian/German/American tourists and passing it off as authentic. On my return to the UK, I did find a site with Egyptian mp3's which was good, but very pop orientated. My last day in Cairo (I missed Jean Michel Jarre @ the Pyramids, but every internet cafe was eager to have me watch it!!!) was the end of Ramadan & was not safe for me to venture out and explore the markets of Cairo as a single western woman :( or perhaps I would have found more interesting IDM there.... This was only my experience - perhaps others on the list have travelled to the Middle East with better musical result...(erh, and I dont mean the Israeli trance scene either....)
quoted 39 lines Ernesto Ikerd <IkerdEA@lmtas.lmco.com> wrote:>Ernesto Ikerd <IkerdEA@lmtas.lmco.com> wrote: > > >>Btw, for the CD version, Byrne/Eno dropped "Qu'ran" > >>due to pressure from fundamentalist Islamic groups, > >>who claimed it was blasphemous to use words from > >>the Koran with this type of music. They replaced > >>that track with "Very, Very Hungry." And everybody lived > >>happily ever after. Amen. > > > >Since you brought it up - Is there a type of music where the Koran is > >open season? > > > >So ambient music is blashphemous, but say - the distorted & overdriven > >beats of Muslimgauze is Alla-riffic? I dont mean to be the American's > >(great satan) advocate here, just all curious now.. > >I believe what got the Islamics' robes in a bunch >was the use of *words* from the Koran; Muslimgauze >didn't pillage the holy book (AFAIK) for extra propaganda >power on his releases. >But this discussion makes me wonder if any Palestinians >ever heard Muslimgauze's music and if it ever helped >their cause. I mean, did his music even *make it* >to those Arab countries? Did he ever play any benefit >shows there? And, totally gratuitously, I ask, would >they consider Muslimgauze's beats "(Ara)phat"? > >Dave Segal >Managing Editor/Alternative Press >Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux >Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST [www.wcsb.org] > >np: Circulation- Colours (Circulation) > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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