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2000-08-03 16:37Gause, Brian [idm] legality of promos??
2000-08-03 22:10David Moore Re: [idm] legality of promos??
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2000-08-03 16:37Gause, BrianI don't know the legal implications of 'promos', but I once heard it said that it's not re
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I don't know the legal implications of 'promos', but I once heard it said that it's not really illegal to sell these. Just because someone putts a snazzy little sticker on the disk doesn't mean I can't sell it...second-hand information, of course, but he was a long-time, trusted record shop owner so I don't immediately believe he's just out for the $$. Anyone with a legal understanding of this issue 'round these parts? ---brian ---------------------------------- Brian W. Gause Senior Technical Writer SECTORBASE.com 568 Howard Street First Floor San Francisco, CA 94105 Direct: (415) 365-8203 Fax: (415) 365-8263 -----Original Message----- From: Brian MacDonald [mailto:brianm@kuci.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 4:00 PM To: Individuals Designed For Mathematics Subject: Re: [idm] Promos etc At least in the States, the specialty record stores will often (despite it being technically illegal in most cases) try to sell such a promo item by placing it in the "New" section of the racks, putting a snazzy little "RARE WHITE LABEL PROMO ONLY!" sticker on it, and usually marking the price up. There are other ways promo items and test pressings leak their way down to the occasional fan. Having friends work at record labels or record stores is pretty helpful. Then there's eBay, the bottom of the chain for practically any hard-to-find wanted item. As for why they are "special", that's a harder question to answer. I mean, if something is a test pressing, then that literally means that this pressing could have an inferior sound to the cheaper, subsequent, more attractive official release to follow. Then again, sometimes the official release never comes out.. therefore rendering the test pressing or promo items as the *only* way to get a first generation copy of a hot track. Of course, some folks are very concerned about being the *first* guy or gal on the block to have the record... which is probably the main reason for the white label frenzy. We all know how important it is to avoid being seen as "like, soooooo six weeks ago... Shuh!" :) Shrug. Otherwise. ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> KUCI 88.9 fM in Irvine, CA -- Orange County ======================================================================= On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Medium Graham wrote:
quoted 5 lines Hey y'all,> Hey y'all, > > I've been DJing for about a year now, and I have a question. Everyone's > always talking about 'this white label' and 'that promo'...where do these > disappear to? I spend more than I should on music, but the only place I
see
quoted 8 lines these things is on CD in this tiny second-hand shop near me. And then,> these things is on CD in this tiny second-hand shop near me. And then, > they're not anything worth buying. Where / how do all you DJ-types on this > list get your promo material? It's getting kinda hard to keep up with the > scene without going too far into the red. > > G-love. > > http://www.gram.org.uk
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2000-08-03 22:10David Moore>From: "Gause, Brian" <bgause@SECTORBASE.COM> >To: Individuals Designed For Mathematics <i
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quoted 95 lines From: "Gause, Brian" <bgause@SECTORBASE.COM>>From: "Gause, Brian" <bgause@SECTORBASE.COM> >To: Individuals Designed For Mathematics <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: [idm] legality of promos?? >Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:37:01 -0700 > >I don't know the legal implications of 'promos', but I once heard it said >that it's not really illegal to sell these. Just because someone putts a >snazzy little sticker on the disk doesn't mean I can't sell >it...second-hand >information, of course, but he was a long-time, trusted record shop owner >so >I don't immediately believe he's just out for the $$. > >Anyone with a legal understanding of this issue 'round these parts? > >---brian > >---------------------------------- >Brian W. Gause >Senior Technical Writer >SECTORBASE.com >568 Howard Street >First Floor >San Francisco, CA 94105 >Direct: (415) 365-8203 >Fax: (415) 365-8263 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Brian MacDonald [mailto:brianm@kuci.org] >Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 4:00 PM >To: Individuals Designed For Mathematics >Subject: Re: [idm] Promos etc > > > >At least in the States, the specialty record stores will often (despite it >being technically illegal in most cases) try to sell such a promo item by >placing it in the "New" section of the racks, putting a snazzy little >"RARE WHITE LABEL PROMO ONLY!" sticker on it, and usually marking the >price up. > >There are other ways promo items and test pressings leak their way down to >the occasional fan. Having friends work at record labels or record stores >is pretty helpful. Then there's eBay, the bottom of the chain for >practically any hard-to-find wanted item. > >As for why they are "special", that's a harder question to answer. I >mean, if something is a test pressing, then that literally means that this >pressing could have an inferior sound to the cheaper, subsequent, more >attractive official release to follow. Then again, sometimes the official >release never comes out.. therefore rendering the test pressing or promo >items as the *only* way to get a first generation copy of a hot track. > >Of course, some folks are very concerned about being the *first* guy or >gal on the block to have the record... which is probably the main reason >for the white label frenzy. We all know how important it is to avoid >being seen as "like, soooooo six weeks ago... Shuh!" :) Shrug. >Otherwise. > >======================================================================= > Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> > KUCI 88.9 fM in Irvine, CA -- Orange County >======================================================================= > > > On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Medium Graham wrote: > > > Hey y'all, > > > > I've been DJing for about a year now, and I have a question. Everyone's > > always talking about 'this white label' and 'that promo'...where do >these > > disappear to? I spend more than I should on music, but the only place I >see > > these things is on CD in this tiny second-hand shop near me. And then, > > they're not anything worth buying. Where / how do all you DJ-types on >this > > list get your promo material? It's getting kinda hard to keep up with >the > > scene without going too far into the red. > > > > G-love. > > > > http://www.gram.org.uk > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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