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quoted 5 lines The more I think about napster's plight, the more I see a revolution away

> >The more I think about napster's plight, the more I see a revolution away > >from the morality of money. > > I see it a little differently now, Napster are out to set themselves up as > the next stage in selling us digital downloads. They wanna be the first

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quoted 5 lines the biggest when the crunchtime comes. I reckon they are fighting the case

> the biggest when the crunchtime comes. I reckon they are fighting the case > purely for publicity, and they'll be the first to run a dl charging system > or subscription system with labeles allowing tracks to be used for their > cut. The names too big and as a brand is carrying too much money for it to > sink when they lose the copyright case.

so, you're saying that, despite whatever napster's original intents were, it's now doing this for publicity. while napster becomes a household name (that the owners have copyright license of), they work behind the scenes to work with labels so that they charge a fee per download, easing people into the "pay per song" route of mp3's. or a monthly subscription rate to napster, and as long as it's not hugely expensive, people will do it because they've been using it for free for so long, see how popular it's become, and don't care to hunt for something else (since they only heard about napster from the news anyways). how fiendish! of course, it'd be interesting to see how they would charge people for putting their own collections of music online and receive no dividends from the profit (since napster only has a database, and no real music on it).

quoted 1 line So while we the supporters of Napster are praying for cheaper music,

> So while we the supporters of Napster are praying for cheaper music,

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quoted 2 lines is already devising a way to replace stores (and eventually record

> is already devising a way to replace stores (and eventually record > companies) by providing another barrier between artist and consumer.

well i wouldn't say we are the supporters of napster. most "idm" stuff is easier to find in record shops than on napster, and many of "us" also dig vinyl. i'm sure we log onto napster for our britney spears fix, but personally i don't do much more than that :) i also think that idm will disappear more from napster if people have to pay for it, mainly because idm peepz tend to associate music wif the people making it (like, "oh this song is by arovane, he's a cool cat"), so would rather spend money on the cd or get it on a non-napster server than shell out to a company who's never heard of arovane (or anyone else for that matter). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 5 lines so, you're saying that, despite whatever napster's original intents >were,

>so, you're saying that, despite whatever napster's original intents >were, >it's now doing this for publicity. while napster becomes a >household name >(that the owners have copyright license of), they work >behind the scenes >to work with labels so that they charge a fee per >download, easing people >into the "pay per song" route of mp3's. how fiendish!

Well yeah. It is as the law stands this trading is illegal, I don't really see a way Napster can win the case, unless they enter into cahoots with record companies offering some service.

quoted 4 lines of course, it'd be interesting to see how they would charge people for

>of course, it'd be interesting to see how they would charge people for >putting their own collections of music online and receive no dividends > >from >the profit (since napster only has a database, and no real music > >on it).

It might end up that a record company puts up the mp3s (big back catalogue inclufding deleted etc) and we dl from them. maybe our mp3s won't be alowed to be traded with a new napster. I dunno, just planting seeds..

quoted 7 lines Most "idm" .stuff is easier to find in record shops than on napster, >and

>Most "idm" .stuff is easier to find in record shops than on napster, >and >many of "us" also dig vinyl. i also think that idm will disappear >more >from napster if people have to pay for it, mainly because idm >peepz tend >to associate music wif the people making it, so would >rather spend money on the cd or get it on a non-napster server than >shell >out to a company who's never heard of arovane (or anyone else >for that >matter).

there is a hell of a lot of idm on napster, and it's put up there by fans of idm sharing their idm music. Also i don't believe idm fans care about their artists any more than jazz fans or fans of "jock rock", despite the opinion of a lot of people. s ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org