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So.... I snapped up Pole #3 (the yellow one) on sight today, without listening in the shop; children/time/listening stations full etc. Damn. It's BORING. Dunno. I expected a bit of progress here from 1 and 2, but it's more of the same. Glitch, pop, crackle, dum dum dum, hiss, snap, dum dum dum. Arrrrgh. For R159-99. (That's a LOT, even by generally expensive South African standards). Wonder whether they'll let me take it back? What am I missing here? Huh? And besides, I refuse to be enamoured by anything titled "Fohlenfurz". Sinking to the level of AFX's toilet "humour". I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

i thought it was a little more sparse than 1 & 2 and that the melodies were a bit more thought out than at least 1... but if you didn't like 1 & 2 i wouldn't expect you to like 3. i guess i think of the series as a series of variations (albeit subtle ones) on a theme. the theme being mushy filter dub minus drums and "traditional" instruments. i think 3 is a good number of records to put out for an experiment like this because it gives you enough of a look at the vector he's following and you can pick up on the progression he's folowed through 1-2-3. I hope that he switches to something new instead of doing Pole 4 though. But I have a feeling that the Primary Color motif limits the scope of the series to 3 records. I guess he could go Purple, Green, Orange but it's gonna get monotonous. not that it isn't already ... it just happens to be different enough from anything else out there that it manages to stay interesting to me. alright ... my german is rusty ... what's Fohlenfurz mean? -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Irene McC wrote:

quoted 23 lines So.... I snapped up Pole #3 (the yellow one) on sight today, without

> So.... I snapped up Pole #3 (the yellow one) on sight today, without > listening in the shop; children/time/listening stations full etc. > > Damn. It's BORING. Dunno. I expected a bit of progress here from > 1 and 2, but it's more of the same. Glitch, pop, crackle, dum dum > dum, hiss, snap, dum dum dum. > > Arrrrgh. For R159-99. (That's a LOT, even by generally expensive > South African standards). Wonder whether they'll let me take it > back? What am I missing here? Huh? > > And besides, I refuse to be enamoured by anything titled > "Fohlenfurz". Sinking to the level of AFX's toilet "humour". > > I > * > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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On 13 Jul 2000, Josh Davison wrote re Re: [idm] it's all Polish to me:

quoted 3 lines But I have a feeling that the Primary Color motif limits the scope

> But I have a feeling that the Primary Color motif limits the scope > of the series to 3 records. I guess he could go Purple, Green, > Orange but it's gonna get monotonous.

And besides, Mike Ink has been there, done that already (Studio 1). It's all a little minimal to the extreme. I do enjoy cover'art' with a bit of bite. And zany graphics. And bits to read and trainspotter vital information :-) Although it must be said that the blueness of the blue one is very very pretty.

quoted 1 line what's Fohlenfurz mean?

> what's Fohlenfurz mean?

Since you're asking ::: (foalfart) = the fart of a foal I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

...sorry, not really a response, but has anyone heard the pole vs four tet 12"? reviews? i don't think i've ever heard any four tet material before, whats it sound like? e.wong

I agree that the melodies are more entrenched in "3". I would give it a few more listens before you write it off as just being derivative of his previous work. IMO Pole's "3" is approaching more of a finished state. It's becoming a bit more than the regae + ambient = pole equation that everybody associates with him. There's a lot more "microscopic" sounds going on in the background which I really appreciate. Some strange vocal (?) elements.. The vinyl is physically beautiful and sounds beautiful, even if it is pricey for a domestic release. Andrew -- -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

To be honest, I find Pole "3" the best of the lot. It IS far more detailed and intricate than the other two records. I've been listening to the disk for several weeks and I continue to discover new sounds and new details. It's a brilliant work. I love the other 2 disks as well, but I find this new one more intelligent, more controlled, more detailed, and more mature. mh -- Michael Heumann aboo@hauntedink.com http://www.hauntedink.com http://www.mp3.com/aboo "Please, please kids, stop fighting. Maybe Lisa's right about America being the land of opportunity and maybe Adil has a point about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers." Homer Simpson

quoted 29 lines From: Andrew Schrock <aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu>

> From: Andrew Schrock <aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu> > Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:42:41 -0400 (EDT) > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] it's all Polish to me > > I agree that the melodies are more entrenched in "3". I would give it a > few more listens before you write it off as just being derivative of his > previous work. > > IMO Pole's "3" is approaching more of a finished state. It's becoming a > bit more than the regae + ambient = pole equation that everybody > associates with him. There's a lot more "microscopic" sounds going on in > the background which I really appreciate. Some strange vocal > (?) elements.. > > The vinyl is physically beautiful and sounds beautiful, even if it is > pricey for a domestic release. > > Andrew > > -- > -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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For those of you who like the Pole stuff, I highly recommend Tomas Jirku's 'Variants' Really good stuff Rob component records www.mindstorm.com/component ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Schrock <aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [idm] it's all Polish to me

quoted 23 lines I agree that the melodies are more entrenched in "3". I would give it a

> I agree that the melodies are more entrenched in "3". I would give it a > few more listens before you write it off as just being derivative of his > previous work. > > IMO Pole's "3" is approaching more of a finished state. It's becoming a > bit more than the regae + ambient = pole equation that everybody > associates with him. There's a lot more "microscopic" sounds going on in > the background which I really appreciate. Some strange vocal > (?) elements.. > > The vinyl is physically beautiful and sounds beautiful, even if it is > pricey for a domestic release. > > Andrew > > -- > -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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"Irene McC" <substar@iafrica.com> wrote:

quoted 6 lines So.... I snapped up Pole #3 (the yellow one) on sight today, without

>So.... I snapped up Pole #3 (the yellow one) on sight today, without > >listening in the shop; children/time/listening stations full etc. > >Damn. It's BORING. Dunno. I expected a bit of progress here from >1 and 2, but it's more of the same. Glitch, pop, crackle, dum dum >dum, hiss, snap, dum dum dum.

<snip> I never like Pole albums until I play them LOUD, which is definitely the case with this one as well-- For about a week, I was the same way about it as you, and I also hadn't bothered listening in-store so I was pissy. But the bass is in the body, and the clicks go round and round. (It's true.)

quoted 2 lines And besides, I refuse to be enamoured by anything titled

>And besides, I refuse to be enamoured by anything titled >"Fohlenfurz". Sinking to the level of AFX's toilet "humour".

I don't know if it's quite as bad as it seems-- it's a stupid joke, but I think it's a play on Wohlfahrt (German for welfare), which sounds a lot like foalfart in english. Goofy back-translation, and voila. I might be giving him too much credit, but it softens the abject idiocy of the song title. Hell, maybe Wohlfahrt was the original name of the song, and some Ami or Brit (or s. african ;) ) said, "Foal fart? What the hell are you on about?" It's a working hypothesis, but I think it works. Matthew "If there's one thing I can't stand, it's up." ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org