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1999-09-20 07:20FemTek _ (idm) Sex and Music
1999-09-20 08:40Jason Perez Re: (idm) Sex and Music
1999-09-20 08:52i love you Re: (idm) Sex and Music
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└─ 1999-09-20 15:34Irene McC Re: (idm) Sex and Music
└─ 1999-09-20 16:03Aaron S Michelson Re: (idm) Sex and Music
└─ 1999-09-20 16:31little miss trinitron RE: (idm) Sex and Music
1999-09-20 14:47Miau-Miau International Re: (idm) Sex and Music
1999-09-20 16:03david turgeon Re: (idm) Sex and Music
1999-09-20 19:39george 'sm' marinov Re: (idm) Sex and Music
1999-09-20 22:31Che Re: (idm) Sex and Music
1999-09-22 21:06qwerty Re: (idm) Sex and Music
1999-09-22 23:38Brian Gause Re: (idm) Sex and Music
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1999-09-20 07:20FemTek _(sorry for the cross post) I've been on this list for quite some time now (mostly an obser
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(sorry for the cross post) I've been on this list for quite some time now (mostly an observer) and have noticed that nobody talks about sex and music on here. In fact, nobody talks about sex and music hardly anywhere. This puzzles me somewhat, as I see the two and sometimes going hand in hand. Similarly, both are a natural part of life for me, and I assume that they must be for others as well. Why not discuss the two together in a mature, unperverted way? Sometimes I listen to electronic music and see it as being *about* sex. And I'm not just talking about the kind of music that DJ Funk spins, either. I'm talking about a lot of house music, and a lot of techno and IDM, too. Take SVEK, for example. This fine Swedish techno seems especially lent to the activity of fornication. Certain tracks and artists in particular, but the label as a whole, too. What about Bola? Anyone daring enough for Ae? Or Moodymann? Then you have something like Carl Craig's Psyche/BFC "Elements", which to me, in its entirety, is the story of sex. Ending with "Sleep," of course. ;) (has anyone else had this idea about "Elements"?) House music is the obvious candidate here, what with the pulsing bass lines and general thumping around. Groans from those exotic divas we've been discussing as of late and the rest. Sometimes the sex in our music is subtle, and other times obvious. Sometimes we use music for or with sex in obvious ways and sometimes in subtle ones. I'm curious as to what others thing of music and sex--how they relate them, if they don't, etc. And I'm not curious in a pervvy kind of way, I'm curious in a musical kind of way. We often talk of how music impacts our lives; affecting emotions, ways of thinking, perception, but it is so seldom that I see people opening up to talk about music with another natural aspect of life: sex. What are the parallels or connections between sex and music, if any? Any comments? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
1999-09-20 08:40Jason PerezI think this did come up at one point or another. Hypothetical Recommendations: Ae's EP7 A
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I think this did come up at one point or another. Hypothetical Recommendations: Ae's EP7 Alec Empire's Destroyer Any Noisex album Winterkalte's Structures of Destruction Mat101's Goodbye Mum Pole a little fuckstorung? Try it, let me know how it turns out.
quoted 50 lines (sorry for the cross post)> >(sorry for the cross post) > >I've been on this list for quite some time now (mostly an observer) and >have >noticed that nobody talks about sex and music on here. In fact, nobody >talks about sex and music hardly anywhere. This puzzles me somewhat, as I >see the two and sometimes going hand in hand. Similarly, both are a >natural >part of life for me, and I assume that they must be for others as well. >Why >not discuss the two together in a mature, unperverted way? > >Sometimes I listen to electronic music and see it as being *about* sex. >And >I'm not just talking about the kind of music that DJ Funk spins, either. >I'm talking about a lot of house music, and a lot of techno and IDM, too. > >Take SVEK, for example. This fine Swedish techno seems especially lent to >the activity of fornication. Certain tracks and artists in particular, but >the label as a whole, too. What about Bola? Anyone daring enough for Ae? >Or Moodymann? > >Then you have something like Carl Craig's Psyche/BFC "Elements", which to >me, in its entirety, is the story of sex. Ending with "Sleep," of course. >;) >(has anyone else had this idea about "Elements"?) > >House music is the obvious candidate here, what with the pulsing bass lines >and general thumping around. Groans from those exotic divas we've been >discussing as of late and the rest. > >Sometimes the sex in our music is subtle, and other times obvious. >Sometimes we use music for or with sex in obvious ways and sometimes in >subtle ones. > >I'm curious as to what others thing of music and sex--how they relate them, >if they don't, etc. And I'm not curious in a pervvy kind of way, I'm >curious >in a musical kind of way. We often talk of how music impacts our lives; >affecting emotions, ways of thinking, perception, but it is so seldom that >I >see people opening up to talk about music with another natural aspect of >life: sex. What are the parallels or connections between sex and music, if >any? > >Any comments? > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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1999-09-20 08:52i love youwell let's see.....i wouldn't be on here if this was the sex & music list. i joined this l
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well let's see.....i wouldn't be on here if this was the sex & music list. i joined this list to find out about upcoming releases, facts about artists, discographies, references, reviews & or comments on releases & shows & so on & what have you. & if i did want to discuss sex at all, there would be nothing mature or unperverted about it. how many people do you know that want to have "PG13" discussions about what they do with their genitals when they listen to ae? how many people on this list really give a fuck about my sex life, perverted or not, bola spinning on the table or not? On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 02:20:27 FemTek _ wrote:
quoted 43 lines (sorry for the cross post)>(sorry for the cross post) > >I've been on this list for quite some time now (mostly an observer) and have >noticed that nobody talks about sex and music on here. In fact, nobody >talks about sex and music hardly anywhere. This puzzles me somewhat, as I >see the two and sometimes going hand in hand. Similarly, both are a natural >part of life for me, and I assume that they must be for others as well. Why >not discuss the two together in a mature, unperverted way? > >Sometimes I listen to electronic music and see it as being *about* sex. And >I'm not just talking about the kind of music that DJ Funk spins, either. >I'm talking about a lot of house music, and a lot of techno and IDM, too. > >Take SVEK, for example. This fine Swedish techno seems especially lent to >the activity of fornication. Certain tracks and artists in particular, but >the label as a whole, too. What about Bola? Anyone daring enough for Ae? >Or Moodymann? > >Then you have something like Carl Craig's Psyche/BFC "Elements", which to >me, in its entirety, is the story of sex. Ending with "Sleep," of course. ;) >(has anyone else had this idea about "Elements"?) > >House music is the obvious candidate here, what with the pulsing bass lines >and general thumping around. Groans from those exotic divas we've been >discussing as of late and the rest. > >Sometimes the sex in our music is subtle, and other times obvious. >Sometimes we use music for or with sex in obvious ways and sometimes in >subtle ones. > >I'm curious as to what others thing of music and sex--how they relate them, >if they don't, etc. And I'm not curious in a pervvy kind of way, I'm curious >in a musical kind of way. We often talk of how music impacts our lives; >affecting emotions, ways of thinking, perception, but it is so seldom that I >see people opening up to talk about music with another natural aspect of >life: sex. What are the parallels or connections between sex and music, if >any? > >Any comments? > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >
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1999-09-20 10:30Magicnerd8@aol.comIn a message dated 9/20/99 12:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, femtek@hotmail.com writes: <
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In a message dated 9/20/99 12:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, femtek@hotmail.com writes: << House music is the obvious candidate here, what with the pulsing bass lines and general thumping around. Groans from those exotic divas we've been discussing as of late and the rest. >> I'm listening to a nice calm house mix at the moment that is completely without verbal sexual suggestiveness, but I must say that the calm synth lines and mellow bass present a magical, underwater feeling that is much like the tide pool relaxation that one feels with a lover. Carl Lekinbush's stuff (the more atmospheric selections) have also replicated this feeling, though the bass is more naked and hard hitting. For me, it'd be the creation of a substantive mood that pulsates throughout the theta waves of the participants. Interestingly enough, my girlfriend and I recently had a quite erotic session to one of the Autechre releases (maybe 7?). Aside from the harsh noise interludes, the soft melodies filtered through the background warmly, while the complex rhythms grafted into our minds, supplying us with creative energy. For anyone who's interested in creating a mood like this that's constant, I recommend using a minidisc player, for longer mixes and accurate sound...DAT would probably be fine too.... I suppose that while I prefer calm soundscapes to accompany and enhance the mood, there could be some deviants out there who dig on some Bloody Fist as they pound into their inflatable lawn Egret. -The Barry White of subculture.... The Objector
1999-09-20 15:34Irene McCI have but one comment : records are not the most suitable accompaniment, since you are fo
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I have but one comment : records are not the most suitable accompaniment, since you are forced to jump up and turn them over every so often. Why not have a "chamber" orchestra sit at the end of your bed? Sex & music? Try Trent Reznor on the subject. Ha ha. Next ... I *
1999-09-20 16:03Aaron S MichelsonExcerpts from mail: 20-Sep-99 Re: (idm) Sex and Music by "Irene McC"@iafrica.com > I have
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quoted 4 lines I have but one comment : records are not the most suitable> I have but one comment : records are not the most suitable > accompaniment, since you are forced to jump up and turn them > over every so often. Why not have a "chamber" orchestra sit at the > end of your bed?
I don't know about that.... My usual routine: Start off with an Arovane 7" Then play that wicked Metamatics 10" Play that glow-in-the-dark Wagon Christ 11" Peak with my favorite Chaos & Julia Set 12" Settle back down again with the Bola 7". Yadda yadda.... Aaron
1999-09-20 16:31little miss trinitron> My usual routine: > Start off with an Arovane 7" > Then play that wicked Metamatics 10"
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quoted 1 line My usual routine:> My usual routine:
quoted 5 lines Start off with an Arovane 7"> Start off with an Arovane 7" > Then play that wicked Metamatics 10" > Play that glow-in-the-dark Wagon Christ 11" > Peak with my favorite Chaos & Julia Set 12" > Settle back down again with the Bola 7".
now if that isn't a disincentive for people to go and buy minidiscs, i don't know what is.. ..searching for those elusive wartime 17" vinyls.. <waves>
1999-09-20 14:47Miau-Miau International>I'm curious as to what others thing of music and sex--how they relate them, >if they don'
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quoted 2 lines I'm curious as to what others thing of music and sex--how they relate them,>I'm curious as to what others thing of music and sex--how they relate them, >if they don't, etc.
a very good and interesting question i think that in the midst of the erotic, we're in a kind of hyper-receptive state so it's important that we're in a good environment like if you were having surgery done performed on you (your insides exposed to the breeze) you'd be wise to be in a clean quiet place and not some dirty loud crowded place or you might pick up something you don't want also i think the erotic requires a kind of mental focus so it's important there's no sudden distractions to jar you and your loved one's state like if you were a pilot landing an aircraft you shouldn't be watching television or you might miss something important also i think the erotic thrives in ease, not force so it's better the environment doesn't push you, better for your intensity to arise by itself like if you're going to pray it doesn't help to shout ....miau miau international likes these (on "repeat"): miles davis "in a silent way" monolake "hong kong" can "future days" (skipping tracks 2 and 3) palestrina " missa nigra sum"
1999-09-20 16:03david turgeon> I have but one comment : records are not the most suitable > accompaniment, since you ar
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quoted 4 lines I have but one comment : records are not the most suitable> I have but one comment : records are not the most suitable > accompaniment, since you are forced to jump up and turn them > over every so often. Why not have a "chamber" orchestra sit at the > end of your bed?
that's the fun part though -- spinning _while having sex_. ultimately, you'll want to move your turntables & mixer on a table right next to the bed, with a good supply of boring minimal techno & ambient dub ready to spin. changing the discs during the act might be a bit tricky at first, so you may want to wire a microphone to your bedpost & through a delay/reverb effect box & lower its pitch so as to have a steady thump-squeak-thump-squeak beat throughout. you're a pro if you can do a perfect beatmatch with your own, erhm, i/o rhythm. if you do it well enough, your neighbours/roommates won't think you're having sex anymore -- they'll just think you're throwing a party. (make sure they're not invited.) if your partner is relatively loud, you also may want to wire her/him through a ring modulator for added glitches. another trick is to put the turntable _on_ the bed for the 'dsp-like cut-up effect' (if you don't get it right away, you will when you try playing your vinyl again.) don't just worry about birth control anymore -- you must also take care of the pitch control! try not to make a mess! -- david
1999-09-20 19:39george 'sm' marinov>Take SVEK, for example. This fine Swedish techno seems especially lent to >the activity o
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quoted 4 lines Take SVEK, for example. This fine Swedish techno seems especially lent to>Take SVEK, for example. This fine Swedish techno seems especially lent to >the activity of fornication. Certain tracks and artists in particular, but >the label as a whole, too. What about Bola? Anyone daring enough for Ae? >Or Moodymann?
hmm... most people would connect Ae to nothing but an mj leaf :)) although being a really huge Ae fan i have never thought about sex while listening to their music. it is so abstract and away-drifting that everything usual for a man's life simly goes to nowhere. i could talk about music and good sleep more in this case....=] [ george marinov : i28745729/2366674 : http/techno.orbitel.bg ]
1999-09-20 22:31CheAt 05:34 PM 9/20/99 +0200, Irene McC wrote: >I have but one comment : records are not the
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At 05:34 PM 9/20/99 +0200, Irene McC wrote:
quoted 4 lines I have but one comment : records are not the most suitable>I have but one comment : records are not the most suitable >accompaniment, since you are forced to jump up and turn them >over every so often. Why not have a "chamber" orchestra sit at the >end of your bed?
I should think that the play of one 7" single would be long enough for most of the guys on this list. Me? Well, why do you think I bought a 25 CD jukebox? ;) Che
1999-09-22 21:06qwertyinteresting subject.... i think most of my friends are having sex listening to Ae and BOC
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interesting subject.... i think most of my friends are having sex listening to Ae and BOC stuff... but i've done it with most of my girlfriends listening to some ambient stuff like SAW2 or some FAX cds i especially like the 3rd track off the 1st CD on SAW2 (on "repeat" ofcourse) and the one from (SAW 2 as well) which is only on vinyl also the track called "Koolfang" on the "Jambient" album by Koolfang and it's 20 minutes long so .... you don't need to listen to it twice... :) but i had some amazing expirience listening to Caustic Window's "Fantasia" from Jojrex J9.... hardcore !! try it ! qwerty
1999-09-22 23:38Brian Gauseqwerty wrote: > interesting subject.... > i think most of my friends are having sex listen
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quoted 12 lines interesting subject....> interesting subject.... > i think most of my friends are having sex listening to Ae and BOC stuff... > but i've done it with most of my girlfriends listening to some ambient stuff > like > SAW2 or some FAX cds > > i especially like the 3rd track off the 1st CD on SAW2 (on "repeat" > ofcourse) > and the one from (SAW 2 as well) which is only on vinyl > > also the track called "Koolfang" on the "Jambient" album by Koolfang > and it's 20 minutes long so .... you don't need to listen to it twice... :)
I'm afraid to think about what this says for your sex life... ---brian -- Save the whales. Collect the whole set. Trade them with your friends. Brian Gause Technical Writer Applications Division Oracle Corporation (650) 506-1311 bgause@us.oracle.com The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation.
1999-09-24 09:16qwerty>> also the track called "Koolfang" on the "Jambient" album by Koolfang >> and it's 20 min
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quoted 2 lines also the track called "Koolfang" on the "Jambient" album by Koolfang>> also the track called "Koolfang" on the "Jambient" album by Koolfang >> and it's 20 minutes long so .... you don't need to listen to it twice...
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quoted 2 lines I'm afraid to think about what this says for your sex life...> >I'm afraid to think about what this says for your sex life...
he, he...it was a joke, ok ? can't you see a smile at the end of the line :)
1999-09-26 19:17dahti have been meaning to post on this topic, if only to make a quick mention a few releases
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i have been meaning to post on this topic, if only to make a quick mention a few releases related to the topic. Namely: Blackhumor: Peace In Our Time CD -consists solely of looped and layered field recordings of the artist's friends having sex. about an hour long... Redwing: Lilith CD - very subtle electroacoustic treatments/processings/deconstructions of a very sexy sounding woman. quite ambient but then she reaches for your ear occasionally too... Psychic TV: Themes 3 LP -field recording collage with all sorts of disturbing juxtapositions, including a long segment layering a woman seemingly at prolonged orgasm, slow balinesian music, and a baby crying woefully... Chicks With Dicks: Double Penetration - some bloke named H. Bruntt (from Sweden?) doing noisey lofi electronic deconstructions of vocal soundtracks from porno movies. brings new meaning to the word "dirty" :) Jonn Duncan: * i cant remember the name of this release off hand* - electronically processed recordings of Japanese porn films, including sound recordings sourced from a film he made himself while visiting Japan. of course, while each above relates in some fashion to sex and music directly, most of these are not exactly idm-ish, if that happens to be a requirement of yours (hence my crosspost)... anyone else have any other examples? -Thad