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2000-05-01 01:41shep.I was listening to In Sides today for the first time in months, and I was reminded of how

From:: shep. <shephrdNOSPAM@earthlink.net>
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Date:: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:41:42 -0700
Subject:: [idm] Orbital: Snivilisation

I was listening to In Sides today for the first time in months, and I was reminded of how beautiful this cd is. Haven't heard Middle of Nowhere, but I heard some people say that it's pretty awful. Hard to imagine Orgital slipping if that really is true. Is Snivilisation better than or as good as In Sides? How does it sound in comparison? Thinking about buying a copy. Thanks. -- shephrd@earthlink.net | "...thita NK;" "...mechanically reclaimed by autechre..." [remove "NOSPAM" to reply] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-05-01 13:32Irene McCOn 30 Apr 00, shep. wrote re [idm] Orbital: Snivilisation: > I was listening to In Sides t

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
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Date:: Mon, 1 May 2000 15:32:40 +0200
Subject:: Re: [idm] Orbital: Snivilisation
Reply to:: [idm] Orbital: Snivilisation

On 30 Apr 00, shep. wrote re [idm] Orbital: Snivilisation:

quoted 1 line I was listening to In Sides today for the first time in month

> I was listening to In Sides today for the first time in month

By some strange synchronicity, so was I - which is why I'm responding to this, even though I'm no authority on the Hartnolls. I never particularly liked In Sides to begin with, but it plinked along pleasantly enough when I put it on a little while ago.

quoted 2 lines Haven't heard Middle of Nowhere, but I heard some people say that

> Haven't heard Middle of Nowhere, but I heard some people say that > it's pretty awful.

It's much more "Dance". I didn't bother getting it, after having it here for a week or so borrowed from a friend I returned it without any regret.

quoted 1 line Is Snivilisation better than or as good as In Sides?

> Is Snivilisation better than or as good as In Sides?

It's not nearly as good as the 'brown album' - if you've got that, you have the essential Orbital already. But if you loved In Sides, you might get some pleasure from Sniv as well. Somewhat cynically... I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-05-01 13:59Bill WrightI must say I'm quite a fan of In Sides, defniltey up there with Music Has the Right to Chi

From:: Bill Wright <wwright@clemson.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 01 May 2000 09:59:24 -0400
Subject:: [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box)
Reply to:: Re: [idm] Orbital: Snivilisation

I must say I'm quite a fan of In Sides, defniltey up there with Music Has the Right to Children and Richard D James Album in my book. Which leads to a question--the bonus cd included with my copy has a 30 minute mix of The Box on it. It's incredible, dramatic and like a movie. Anyone know of other idm or electronic type songs which are like this? Ie, very long songs which have a film-like quality to them? The only songs I know that are long (20minutes+), are Monolake's "Gobi" Ep (which is not very film-like, just very mood setting) and Goldie's "Mother" (which is relatively film like but imho very boring and, uh, bad). At 03:32 PM 5/1/2000 +0200, you wrote:

quoted 8 lines On 30 Apr 00, shep. wrote re [idm] Orbital: Snivilisation:

>On 30 Apr 00, shep. wrote re [idm] Orbital: Snivilisation: > > > I was listening to In Sides today for the first time in month > >By some strange synchronicity, so was I - which is why I'm >responding to this, even though I'm no authority on the Hartnolls. I >never particularly liked In Sides to begin with, but it plinked along >pleasantly enough when I put it on a little while ago.

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2000-05-01 15:47laermOn Mon, 1 May 2000, Bill Wright wrote: > Anyone know of other idm or electronic type songs

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Date:: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:47:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box)
Reply to:: [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box)

On Mon, 1 May 2000, Bill Wright wrote:

quoted 6 lines Anyone know of other idm or electronic type songs which are like this?

> Anyone know of other idm or electronic type songs which are like this? > Ie, very long songs which have a film-like quality to them? The only > songs I know that are long (20minutes+), are Monolake's "Gobi" Ep > (which is not very film-like, just very mood setting) and Goldie's > "Mother" (which is relatively film like but imho very boring and, uh, > bad).

on the 313 list a few months back we had a discussion about epic techno songs. i seem to remember a 15 minute techno song being a decidedly 1993-4 phenomenon. i'm probably gonna embarrass myself, but there are three tracks that spring to mind as great: laurent garnier, "acid eiffel", 1993, 14 minutes; sabres of paradise, "smokeblech II" david holmes mix, 1993 (?), 15 minutes; sven vath, "l'esperanza", 1994, 12 minutes. for real long stuff, look into vladislav delay. his album on chain reaction, _multila_, has a really great 24-minute beaty track. on his ambient side, _entan_ on mille plateaux has four 16-minute+ tracks. and for drum'n'bass, the carpet bomb label comp _highways over gardens_ has a handful of really epic, shifting, changing tracks. * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# no particular place names/no particular song icq 5562209 i've been hiding/what am i hiding from? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-05-02 08:58Irene McCOn 1 May 00, Bill Wright wrote re [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" s: > Anyone know of ot

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
To:: <wwright@clemson.edu>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:58:46 +0200
Subject:: Re: [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box)
Reply to:: [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box)

On 1 May 00, Bill Wright wrote re [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" s:

quoted 3 lines Anyone know of other idm or electronic type songs which are like this? Ie,

> Anyone know of other idm or electronic type songs which are like this? Ie, > very long songs which have a film-like quality to them? The only songs I > know that are long (20minutes+),

If it's okay to mention Moby around here, then I'd say find a copy of his "hymn.alt.quiet.version" EP - one long track (half an hour, or thereabouts) that covers all sorts of ambient soundscapes. Pretty. I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-05-02 23:04Mark StevensHere's a reply to the message "[idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box)" w

From:: Mark Stevens <mark@headspin.clara.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Cc:: Bill Wright <wwright@clemson.edu>
Date:: Wed, 03 May 2000 00:04:57 +0100
Subject:: Re: [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box)
Reply to:: [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box)

Here's a reply to the message "[idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box)" written on Mon, 01 May 2000 09:59:24 -0400:

quoted 2 lines Which leads to a question--the bonus cd included with my copy has a 30

>Which leads to a question--the bonus cd included with my copy has a 30 >minute mix of The Box on it. It's incredible, dramatic and like a movie.

quoted 2 lines Anyone know of other idm or electronic type songs which are like this? Ie,

>Anyone know of other idm or electronic type songs which are like this? Ie, >very long songs which have a film-like quality to them?

Try the following singles: FSOL - "Cascade" FSOL - "Lifeforms" FSOL - "My Kingdom" The Orb - "Blue Room" Node - "Terminus" Underworld - "Dirty Epic" S'Express - "Mantra for a State of Mind" Or the following albums: FSOL - "Lifeforms" FSOL - "Dead Cities" Amorphous Androgynous (FSOL) - "Tales of Ephidrina" Node - "Node" Underworld - "dubnobasswithmyheadman" Underworld - "Second Toughest in the Infants" Orbital - "The Brown Album" Orbital - "Middle of Nowhere" Vladislav Delay - "Entain" Vladislav Delay - "Multila" Alva Noto - "Prototypes" Tangerine Dream - "Rubycon" Ozric Tentacles - "Waterfall Cities" Eat Static - "Science of the Gods" CJ Bolland - "Electronic Highway" Jean Michel Jarre - "Waiting for Cousteau" Biosphere - "Substrata" Meat Beat Manifesto - "Subliminal Sandwich" -- Mark Stevens http://www.headspin.clara.net/ http://pressx.cjb.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-05-01 17:46Johan KotlinskiAt 18:41 2000-04-30 -0700, you wrote: >I was listening to In Sides today for the first tim

From:: Johan Kotlinski <spleen@darkface.pp.se>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 01 May 2000 19:46:00 +0200
Subject:: Re: [idm] Orbital: Snivilisation
Reply to:: [idm] Orbital: Snivilisation

At 18:41 2000-04-30 -0700, you wrote:

quoted 5 lines I was listening to In Sides today for the first time in months, and I was

>I was listening to In Sides today for the first time in months, and I was >reminded of how beautiful this cd is. Haven't heard Middle of Nowhere, but I >heard some people say that it's pretty awful. Hard to imagine Orgital >slipping if that really is true. Is Snivilisation better than or as good as >In Sides? How does it sound in comparison? Thinking about buying a copy.

I think that Snivilisation is way better... I haven't listened to it for some years now, but I loved it when it was new. It really has some great moments. You should better make your own edited Minidisc version of it, though, because some tracks are really awful... but besides them, I think it's their best album... /Johan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-05-02 04:54sean whalendare i mention...disc 1 to goldie's 'return to saturn'....the 'mother' track is like 60 mi

From:: sean whalen <swhalen@nfinity.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 2 May 2004 04:54:52 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box)

dare i mention...disc 1 to goldie's 'return to saturn'....the 'mother' track is like 60 mins. long or something. i don't bloody care if it is goldie, i like it. ;) -sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene McC" <substar@iafrica.com> To: <wwright@clemson.edu>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box)

quoted 3 lines On 1 May 00, Bill Wright wrote re [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" s:

> On 1 May 00, Bill Wright wrote re [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" s: > > > Anyone know of other idm or electronic type songs which are like this?

Ie,

quoted 1 line very long songs which have a film-like quality to them? The only songs

> > very long songs which have a film-like quality to them? The only songs

quoted 14 lines know that are long (20minutes+),

> > know that are long (20minutes+), > > If it's okay to mention Moby around here, then I'd say find a copy of > his "hymn.alt.quiet.version" EP - one long track (half an hour, or > thereabouts) that covers all sorts of ambient soundscapes. Pretty. > > I > * > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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2000-05-02 13:00Dayv!On Sun, 2 May 2004, sean whalen wrote: > dare i mention...disc 1 to goldie's 'return to sa

From:: Dayv! <laughing@yourpain.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:00:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box)
Reply to:: Re: [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box)

On Sun, 2 May 2004, sean whalen wrote:

quoted 3 lines dare i mention...disc 1 to goldie's 'return to saturn'....the 'mother&

> dare i mention...disc 1 to goldie's 'return to saturn'....the 'mother' track > is like 60 mins. long or something. i don't bloody care if it is goldie, i > like it. ;)

Wow, that's the first time Ive seen anyone admit to liking that disc. -Dayv! "Hay algo encima del ala del plano." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-05-03 01:08Visions Of BubbaI'm gonna have to agree with sean, not because he shares my name, but because it is actual

From:: Visions Of Bubba <sbabakha@videon.wave.ca>
To:: sean whalen <swhalen@nfinity.com>, Interval Dot Machine <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:08:14 -0600
Subject:: [idm] goldie's "mother"/song appreciation/new plastikman? (was orbital and long songs [or something])

I'm gonna have to agree with sean, not because he shares my name, but because it is actually quite a good song. it's not like it was some cheap run of the mill song, there was a lot put into the song and it is noticeable. i first heard that song when i was 15 and we were driving home in the snow. it just had this eerie component to it that made it perfect (the waves and the snow). then i had it playing when i drove to banff from winnipeg last year and that was cool as well. it's always been there for me and for that, i like it even more. i always find that in order for me to appreciate a song and to actually like it, i have to share an experience with it. i remember once during the summer i was listening to autechre's "bronchusevenmx24" (off the garbage ep) and i saw the aftermath of a 90 km/h (or 60 mph?) head on collision. it was just after a rainfall and the sun was setting so it had this eerie glow as everybody was driving slowly past the compressed dodge daytona (half of it's original size) and just staring mesmerized at what they had just seen. bodybags were being loaded onto ambulances and everything. now everytime i listen to that song i get warped into that moment in time where people died and i witnessed it. music rules. shaun sean whalen wrote:

quoted 36 lines dare i mention...disc 1 to goldie's 'return to saturn'....the 'mother&

> dare i mention...disc 1 to goldie's 'return to saturn'....the 'mother' track > is like 60 mins. long or something. i don't bloody care if it is goldie, i > like it. ;) > > -sean > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Irene McC" <substar@iafrica.com> > To: <wwright@clemson.edu>; <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 1:58 AM > Subject: Re: [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" songs? (30 minute Box) > > > On 1 May 00, Bill Wright wrote re [idm] Orbital / Long "Movie Like" s: > > > > > Anyone know of other idm or electronic type songs which are like this? > Ie, > > > very long songs which have a film-like quality to them? The only songs > I > > > know that are long (20minutes+), > > > > If it's okay to mention Moby around here, then I'd say find a copy of > > his "hymn.alt.quiet.version" EP - one long track (half an hour, or > > thereabouts) that covers all sorts of ambient soundscapes. Pretty. > > > > I > > * > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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2000-05-03 12:16Irene McCOn 2 May 00, Visions Of Bubba wrote re [idm] goldie's "mother"/song apprec: > i get warped

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
To:: <sbabakha@videon.wave.ca>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:16:18 +0200
Subject:: [idm] moments to savour
Reply to:: [idm] goldie's "mother"/song appreciation/new plastikman? (was orbital and long songs [or something])

On 2 May 00, Visions Of Bubba wrote re [idm] goldie's "mother"/song apprec:

quoted 2 lines i get warped into that moment in time where people

> i get warped into that moment in time where people > died and i witnessed it. music rules.

This sounds very like Jim Morrison's drive through the desert and seeing the dead Indians - one of whose souls he believed entered him. Shamanic stuff. But we're drifting waaaay off topic here. Smack on wrists. I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

[idm] goldie's "mother"/song appreciation/new plastikman? (was orbital and long songs [or something])