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quoted 1 line "math rock"

>"math rock"

Hm. Math rock: that sounds simultaneously intriguing and suspicious, like Nickelodeon Gak. If anybody can rattle off some other bands to look for that could be considered "math rock" I'd be grateful. Appealed and appalled, -chris idm content: Tom Jenkinson is a talentless hack ;)

quoted 8 lines Somebody said this as part of a description of tortoise:

>Somebody said this as part of a description of tortoise: >>"math rock" > >Hm. Math rock: that sounds simultaneously intriguing and suspicious, like >Nickelodeon Gak. > >If anybody can rattle off some other bands to look for that could be >considered "math rock" I'd be grateful.

A few off the top of my head: Don Caballero (buy everything), Storm&Stress, Table (hard to find, but worth the search), Bastro (future Gastr Del Sol/Tortoise members playing white-knuckled mayhem with many interesting time changes; beware first EP, recorded w/drum machine), 90 Day Men (from Chicago; ignore the "singer"'s British affectations), Colossamite (start w/"All Lingo's Clamor"), Dazzling Killmen (anything), Lustre King (new LP has many great moments, but more bad ones), Johnboy (start w/"Claim Dedications"), Stinking Lizaveta (think instrumental-period Black Flag with beards; start w/"...Hopelessness And Shame"), early Slint, Rodan (Slintastic), Bitch Magnet (start w/"Ben Hur"), Hurl, Crain, Honor Role/Breadwinner/Butterglove (all great & cut from the same tattered Voivod patch), Iceburn, um... There's lots more, but I'm behind a desk and can't bother worrying about it at the moment. The definiton's sort of broad, but think loud post-hardcore bands playing w/finesse, infrequent elliptical (and generally bad) lyrics, numerous asymmetric time signatures, and six degrees of separation from Chicago or Louisville. King Crimson's "Red" appears to be a template. 7/4, AB

quoted 3 lines Appealed and appalled,

>Appealed and appalled, >-chris >idm content: Tom Jenkinson is a talentless hack ;)

Math rock usaully denotes very complex and sometimes long songs which are extremely dynamic. I don't know much about music theory, but a friend who does was telling me the changes in an Ativin song and within the span of about a minute it went from 4/4 to 11/7 to 5/4 to 7/8. (Those numbers may be wrong, but you get the picture). Usaully all instrumental as well, and very atmospheric and moody as well. THE math rock band is Don Caballero. I've mentioned this before, but I can definitely see "What Burns Never Returns" being very easy to digest by most list members. Incredibly intricate and fast drum programming, I mean drumming and crazy sounds from a guitar and bass. (One of the song titles is "Delivering the Groceries at 120 Beats Per Minute"). Others, which are math rocky include: Ativin, June of '44, Storm & Stress (more on a free jazz vein), A Minor Forest, and Purkinje Shift. At 11:54 AM 6/4/99 -0500, bacchanal wrote:

quoted 5 lines Somebody said this as part of a description of tortoise:

> >Somebody said this as part of a description of tortoise: >>"math rock" > >Hm. Math rock: that sounds simultaneously intriguing and suspicious, like

Nickelodeon Gak.

quoted 2 lines If anybody can rattle off some other bands to look for that could be

> >If anybody can rattle off some other bands to look for that could be

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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Bill, Wright wrote:

quoted 2 lines Others, which are math rocky include: Ativin, June of '44, Storm & Stress

> Others, which are math rocky include: Ativin, June of '44, Storm & Stress > (more on a free jazz vein), A Minor Forest, and Purkinje Shift.

storm & stress opened for trans am/pan_sonic out here in philly. they might've been the most boring band i've ever seen live. then again, i know i "don't get it". * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# i dreamt about you last night/i fell out of bed twice icq:5562209 you can pin and mount me like a butterfly

No, you do get it. I saw storm and stress too, and they were literally the most boring band I have ever seen. Pretentious art rock noise. It sounded to me like some teenage bands first practice session. Ever. -sg- -----Original Message----- From: idm-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:idm-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of laerm Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 10:38 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (idm) was ist das math rock? On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Bill, Wright wrote:

quoted 2 lines Others, which are math rocky include: Ativin, June of '44, Storm & Stress

> Others, which are math rocky include: Ativin, June of '44, Storm & Stress > (more on a free jazz vein), A Minor Forest, and Purkinje Shift.

storm & stress opened for trans am/pan_sonic out here in philly. they might've been the most boring band i've ever seen live. then again, i know i "don't get it". * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# i dreamt about you last night/i fell out of bed twice icq:5562209 you can pin and mount me like a butterfly

quoted 3 lines storm & stress opened for trans am/pan_sonic out here in philly. they

> storm & stress opened for trans am/pan_sonic out here in philly. they > might've been the most boring band i've ever seen live. then again, i know > i "don't get it".

what is it with stoners' fascination with two-hand tapping? will someone explain that to me? rjck.//_ http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~nworth1