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I felt particularly lucky to be in the position to help bring DJ Teep (Aran Parillo) to Iowa City to spin. He got on in front of a couple hundred sweaty dancing maniacs and made us all move to a set that started out with Electro and finished with some storming Drum & Bass. I've placed a real audio file of his 42 minute set at http://avalon.net/~kent/teep/ Enjoy! And if you want to download the file for offline listening, grab http://avalon.net/~kent/teep/teepset.ra Tech notes: This was recorded to DAT at 32khz straight from the mixing desk, then transfered to hard disk with a Turtle Beach Pinnacle. No edits were done on the set, but I did re-eq and compress it to get the most out of the real audio format. kent williams -- kent@avalon.net ICQ:33001909

In message <Pine.HPP.3.96.990501152419.9287A-100000@arthur.avalon.net>, ChairCrusher <kent@avalon.net> writes

quoted 4 lines I felt particularly lucky to be in the position to help bring DJ Teep

>I felt particularly lucky to be in the position to help bring DJ Teep >(Aran Parillo) to Iowa City to spin. He got on in front of a couple hundred >sweaty dancing maniacs and made us all move to a set that started out >with Electro and finished with some storming Drum & Bass.

For f***s sake, why is england so shit? If anyone tried to mix multiple styles over here they'd get glassed probably. Unless, I just haven't been out enough recently and it's all changed in the last year, otherwise in most clubs it's 100% techno all night, or 100% house *all* night, etc etc...boring, in other words. I wanna live in America. -- Ben Coffer http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

In message <372DBD5B.33DFA9F7@sigma6.com>, William Van Loo <wdvanloo@sigma6.com> writes

quoted 2 lines It's not just England. America is not the land of the experimental style-mixing

>It's not just England. America is not the land of the experimental style-mixing >maniacs (hey, Teep :).

Yeah I know....it just seems at times that there's *so* many more IDM- type events going on over your way, people are more accepting of this music. Particularly SoCal :) (where tonnes of events seem to happen). That is, people are more openminded with their beats etc. Basically, my impression of the average dance-minded American is that they'll take whatever they like and they aren't ashamed of liking trax with different beats (not just 4-to-the-floor). Whereas the average Dance individual over here is into Speed Garage. Maybe i'm wrong, but i think America is definitely *the* IDM country of this year, lots of things happening ;) (maybe it should be part of the IDM poll, vote for best IDM country :)

quoted 2 lines In parting - if you don't see DJs you like in England, have you considered

>In parting - if you don't see DJs you like in England, have you considered >investing in a pair of turntables?

Hehe, i've been mixing since '88 ;) (got proper technics in '91). Actually, me and some friends put on a gig (Synergik) in london a month or so back, and received only a handful of people turning up (the music was *literally* a bit of everything). Shame, but then again it *wasn't* anywhere near center of london. Oh well, - Ben -- Ben Coffer http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

You know, there really is a place for every style, from DJ Hothouse Monoculture to balls out eclecticism. I hear 3 or 4 DJs a week, both local and out of town talent, and I've heard exciting inventive sets of 4x4 deep house, and boring 'eclectic' sets. The DJs who realize that they're carrying on a conversation with the audience always do well. The ones who want to punish you, or prove how cool they are, or show how big their dicks are are always a disappointment no matter what they're spinning. I'm sorry to hear that the London club scene has kind of regressed to the idiot mean. That means one thing to me -- it's time to go back to basics, do it yourself midweek in a pub, and turn your back on Peter Tong and Paul Oakenfold and all the other corporate geezers. It's about the music, not about how cool you are or how much money you make. kent williams -- kent@avalon.net ICQ:33001909

Hey There -- I'm glad this discussion has come up. I've been an avid mixer of styles/genres since I started Dj'g a number of years ago...It hasn't been an easy road when it comes to 'getting booked', for it has, in fact, worked against me. Not having a recognizable style (that they are willing to see) for a promoter to be able to slot you into the line-up. It's not that I always had to mix all the styles in one set...I enjoyed doing bangin Techno, manic Breaks, crazy Acid, Hardcore and Ambient sets...and, thankfully, there have been some wonderful and open-minded people who have booked me and i've delivered the goods in the style they wanted. But as far as being able to mix-up the styles at a party, well, that's another story. For that reason I got a radio slot. For the past 4-5 years I've been able to play everything my little heart desires....In one 3 hour show you'll hear experimental, IDM, techno, house, jazzy lounge, breaks, electro, jungle/d&b, hardcore, acid....and it's been a wonderful experience! It does take a lot to keep up with all the stuff that's happening in these genres, that's true...but to me, music is music, and it's all one happy family. I'm trying to keep the same sort of mix-up flow on my Internet show (8pm-10pm Mondays ET on http://www.technotica.com) But, sometimes, I do just like to play one style for the 2 hours, but usually play different ones week to week. Tonight, btw, it's Hardcore. I haven't played it in a long while, and I'm cleaning up my studio, so on to the tables and into the boxes it goes until I can get some shelves put up! So, Big Ups to the Dj's who mix it up! (-<) Linda Leigh/L3 It was written...........

quoted 3 lines If anyone tried to mix multiple

>>If anyone tried to mix multiple >> styles over here they'd get glassed probably. I wanna live in America. >It's not just England. America is not the land of the experimental

style->mixing maniacs (hey, Teep :). You're just as likely to find boring all-one->style, same-tracks-every-time-you-see-them DJs in America as England.

quoted 2 lines The problem is, mixing styles requires much more musical knowledge than

> >The problem is, mixing styles requires much more musical knowledge than

does >mixing only one style. Imagine

quoted 2 lines everything you know about IDM, or electro, or techno, then try to imagine

>everything you know about IDM, or electro, or techno, then try to imagine >knowing that same amount about drum-n-bass, or house, or hip-hop. It takes

a >lot of dedication and enthusiasm...............

quoted 7 lines I'm sorry to hear that the London club scene has kind of regressed

> >I'm sorry to hear that the London club scene has kind of regressed >to the idiot mean. That means one thing to me -- it's time to go back >to basics, do it yourself midweek in a pub, and turn your back on >Peter Tong and Paul Oakenfold and all the other corporate geezers. >It's about the music, not about how cool you are or how much money >you make.

Well I have to say, that I don't think the London scene is all that bad. I've lived in America for two years now, but even being that out of touch I know of four events in the past couple of weeks that I would have gone to if I'd been home. Namely, the Ninja's new night - "YesMate", the Rephlex night on friday, and I believe Sprawl have just posted their current activities. Also Raya at the ICA and Triology apparently seriously mix it up. Now if I can know about all this from Massachusetts, then any Londoners complaining just aren't trying hard enough! And if you're into other dance styles there's any number of places playing funk, latin, hip hop, jazz etc. The majority of the scene, like America, like anywhere, may be house and techno, but a little effort to seek out the margins will pay off I'm sure. CheerioAndrewC.

kent said;

quoted 6 lines I'm sorry to hear that the London club scene has kind of regressed

> I'm sorry to hear that the London club scene has kind of regressed > to the idiot mean. That means one thing to me -- it's time to go back > to basics, do it yourself midweek in a pub, and turn your back on > Peter Tong and Paul Oakenfold and all the other corporate geezers. > It's about the music, not about how cool you are or how much money > you make.

interesting thread here - and as andrewc mentioned, Raya at the ICA, does try to do something a little different. i was involved in promoting this night (and playing) for about 18 months, and our mission was (and still is) to get as much good music showcased as we could - regardless of it's genre/fashion/crowd etc the way we went about this, was to choose four performers, be they live acts or DJs and then programme the evenings entertainment. ie sometimes have a live act on first, with no "warm-up" or try flipping convention, with putting the sets on in reverse order than most other places - ie banging techno first, to house or drum and bass with an ambient/electronica finish. all sets last only an hour and each performer was actively encouraged to play what ever they wanted. this worked for us, as we had (have) a central venue, it being an arts centre, meant, people are more up for experimention, and being on relatively early (9pm-1am) many people were going on somewhere afterwards to hear more "proper dance music" so something eclectic was allowed ;-) this in addition to the visual and performance art in the club made an interesting evening, and thus we got a load of press attention. it would be interesting to hear how other promoters decided who was to appear on any particular line-up. ie big name dj's that draw in a crowd, or some one who plays interesting stuff to develop a crowd and a "club" like environment ? dave colbran 07788 797 830 http://come.to/davecolbran