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1999-02-18 12:15(idm) Ae boring? Re: ACR (was: "Re: whats up with schematic and
1999-02-18 12:39martin wood Re: (idm) Ae boring?
└─ 1999-02-18 12:57Jesse Injety RE: (idm) Ae boring?
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1999-02-18 12:15ibss@ukrpack.netmartin wood wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Come on. I hope you don't mean it. Autechre has no
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martin wood wrote:
quoted 7 lines Come on. I hope you don't mean it. Autechre has no worst or best> > > > > > > > > > Come on. I hope you don't mean it. Autechre has no worst or best > > > - they are pure. > > > That's why they don't match to anything, that's why they're on > > > top for me. btw > > > Tri Repetae is inside ten golden (as you say) idm albums ever.
IMHO
quoted 4 lines Alien> > > > > > Alien > > Why shouldnt he mean it....are you going to cry if not everyone thinks
autechre
quoted 2 lines are the> are the > pinnacle of modern music....what is it that makes them so
'pure'....all of their
quoted 1 line records being boring?...> records being boring?...
I'd like to assert that I hoped he didn't mean it not that he should mean it or not. I hoped for that as for me personally Ae is not a part of idm and not a part of music environment at all. For me it is a trigger for my subconsciousness, my inner world. It moves me in the most deepest way. That is why for me there's no worst or best Ae album - all of them are those are parts of a chain of precious pieces of art made to inspire people like me. It is not a pinnacle of modern music at all. It does not match to music criteria at all. I love many idm makers but Ae just different for me. Also all I said was IMHO and I do not expect anybody to cry over it as I'm not going to cry over someones opinion. Ae is pinnacle of what sound might achive. But only for me and other crazy Ae worshippers (I know some of them but not many). All I wanted to say is that I hoped Ae would not be called boring on this list. Alien
1999-02-18 12:39martin woodibss@ukrpack.net wrote: > martin wood wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Come on. I hope y
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ibss@ukrpack.net wrote:
quoted 45 lines martin wood wrote:> martin wood wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Come on. I hope you don't mean it. Autechre has no worst or best > > > > - they are pure. > > > > That's why they don't match to anything, that's why they're on > > > > top for me. btw > > > > Tri Repetae is inside ten golden (as you say) idm albums ever. > IMHO > > > > > > > > Alien > > > > Why shouldnt he mean it....are you going to cry if not everyone thinks > autechre > > are the > > pinnacle of modern music....what is it that makes them so > 'pure'....all of their > > records being boring?... > > I'd like to assert that I hoped he didn't mean it not that he should > mean it or not. > > I hoped for that as for me personally Ae is not a part of idm and not a > part of > music environment at all. For me it is a trigger for my > subconsciousness, my inner > world. It moves me in the most deepest way. That is why for me there's > no worst or > best Ae album - all of them are those are parts of a chain of precious > pieces of art > made to inspire people like me. > It is not a pinnacle of modern music at all. It does not match to music > criteria at > all. I love many idm makers but Ae just different for me. > Also all I said was IMHO and I do not expect anybody to cry over it as > I'm not going > to cry over someones opinion. > Ae is pinnacle of what sound might achive. But only for me and other > crazy Ae > worshippers (I know some of them but not many). > All I wanted to say is that I hoped Ae would not be called boring on > this list. > > Alien
but by your criteria (which is the only valid criteria), you must allow someone to express their personal opinion. How can you expect someone not to call them boring if thats how they feel, personally i find them boring as well, or do you want this list to be a forum for mutual masturbation?....in a way its similar to the argument for freedom of speech...you will only have freedom of speech when you allow people to express the views which are anathema to your own.....i understand that its hard to accept that something that speaks to you on such a level can be regarded as boring by someone else, but as i said before: 'horses for courses'
1999-02-18 12:57Jesse InjetyAlien does allow you to express your opinion, he didn't berate people who disagreed, or sa
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Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:57:46 -0800
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Alien does allow you to express your opinion, he didn't berate people who disagreed, or said they had no right to have their opinion. he just said he hoped it wouldn't be called boring. i hope the things i love aren't found boring by people too, but if they do, and they say it, i guess it just sucks a little bit. not much tho
quoted 6 lines snip snip snip>> snip snip snip> > > > All I wanted to say is that I hoped Ae would not be called boring on > > this list. > > > > Alien >
quoted 2 lines but by your criteria (which is the only valid criteria), you must allow> but by your criteria (which is the only valid criteria), you must allow > someone to express their personal opinion.
---- he is allowing you to express your opinion ----
quoted 5 lines How can you expect>How can you expect > someone not to > call them boring if thats how they feel, personally i find them boring as > well, or do you want this list to be a forum for mutual > masturbation?....
---- he didn't expect anyone to like Ae (or not think them boring), he said he liked (loved i bet) Ae himself. ---- in> a way its similar to the argument for freedom of speech...you
quoted 3 lines will only have> will only have > freedom of speech when you allow people to express the views which are > anathema to your own.....
---- he never disallowed you to express your views ----
quoted 4 lines i understand that its hard to accept>i understand that its hard to accept > that something > that speaks to you on such a level can be regarded as boring by someone > else, but as i said before: 'horses for courses'
it is hard to accept sometimes, but, horses for courses? wha? -jes PS you might not like the backstreet boys, and your allowed to, but i just hope you won't call them lame ass excuses for anything having to do with music. it'd break my heart