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1999-02-18 00:10David J. Gebhart Re: (idm) What is Trip Hop?
├─ 1999-02-18 00:17Bill Connolly Re: (idm) What is Trip Hop?
├─ 1999-02-18 00:43Andrew Hime Re: (idm) What is Trip Hop?
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1999-02-18 00:59Simon Paul Re: (idm) What is Trip Hop?
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1999-02-18 00:10David J. Gebhart>From: EvilIzzo@aol.com >Subject: Re: (idm) What is Trip Hop? > >So what is it anyway, and
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quoted 4 lines From: EvilIzzo@aol.com>From: EvilIzzo@aol.com >Subject: Re: (idm) What is Trip Hop? > >So what is it anyway, and do we care here at the idm list?
well, honestly, no. bottom line is whether you like it or not. period. I could care less what it's called. but we all like to compartmentalize and organize and try to understand, so here's some of my spare change: in my book, dj shadow invented "trip hop." or perhaps perfected the form. some will claim portishead, but the shadow had a coupla twelves out before them and his excellent 'what does your soul look like' ep paralleled the first portishead f/l, I believe. I've always found portishead a little too dry (or something) for me, but I still respect them. if I wanna do "trip hop" these days, I'll reach for the morcheeba. execllent production, quality musicians, decent lyrics. sure, it's safe and mainstream, but sometimes that's whatchya need. haven't been to a party yet where morcheeba was played and there were complaints or someone new wasn't turned on. take your victories where you can, I suppose.
quoted 2 lines I used to think that Trip Hop was defined by the "U.S. Homegrown ->I used to think that Trip Hop was defined by the "U.S. Homegrown - >Total Trip Hop" series on Moonshine.
groan. I think that most of would agree that they could count the number of quality moonshine releases on one hand or less, although they've come around a little over time.
quoted 3 lines You know bands like "The Crystal Method" amd>You know bands like "The Crystal Method" amd >"Fluke" but I was later corrected and told that Moonshine was wrong, >and that this was called "Big Beats"
um, yeah, definitely. and the ChemBros are "big beat", not "trip hop," as someone posited earlier.
quoted 1 line So when I was corrected, I was told that the definitive "Trip Hop" >CD>So when I was corrected, I was told that the definitive "Trip Hop" >CD
was ISDN by the Future Sound of London. who the hell are you getting your advice from? I mean, great album, but "trip hop?" crissakes, sure it's just a tag name, but ISDN includes much more than that.
quoted 2 lines Sounds like fragmented>Sounds like fragmented >ambience to me, but what do I know.
call me crazy, but I'd call it "idm." (now, let's not start THAT thread (again).) and here in Chicago, we're all clueless... still waiting for that next Steve Winwood trip hop album... daevid j
quoted 5 lines From: "kiya \"i am a copier\" babzani" <denial@ix.netcom.com>>From: "kiya \"i am a copier\" babzani" <denial@ix.netcom.com> >Subject: Re: (idm) WARP >and if greg is reading this, i still think rubber jonny is amazingly >awful. and so is mira calix when she's actually making her >own music...
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1999-02-18 00:17Bill ConnollyOn Wed, 17 Feb 1999, David J. Gebhart wrote: > > in my book, dj shadow invented "trip hop.
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On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, David J. Gebhart wrote:
quoted 5 lines in my book, dj shadow invented "trip hop." or perhaps perfected the> > in my book, dj shadow invented "trip hop." or perhaps perfected the > form. some will claim portishead, but the shadow had a coupla twelves > out before them and his excellent 'what does your soul look like' ep > paralleled the first portishead f/l, I believe.
speaking of shadow, anyone know when his next album is coming out? "Pre-emptive Strike" was very nice for the underpriviledged folks in the US, but I want some new material. :) BC
1999-02-18 00:43Andrew Hime> in my book, dj shadow invented "trip hop." or perhaps perfected the > form. some will cl
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quoted 4 lines in my book, dj shadow invented "trip hop." or perhaps perfected the> in my book, dj shadow invented "trip hop." or perhaps perfected the > form. some will claim portishead, but the shadow had a coupla twelves > out before them and his excellent 'what does your soul look like' ep > paralleled the first portishead f/l, I believe.
Interesting claim, but there were 12"s coming out in the triphop style in 92 and 93. I believe "Cantamilla" by Tranquility Bass was actually released in 1991.
quoted 6 lines You know bands like "The Crystal Method" amd> >You know bands like "The Crystal Method" amd > >"Fluke" but I was later corrected and told that Moonshine was wrong, > >and that this was called "Big Beats" > > um, yeah, definitely. and the ChemBros are "big beat", not "trip hop," > as someone posited earlier.
Eh. I'm annoyed by the tendency to relabel what was originally called triphop (from 93-95) to big beat. Spare me. Don't come up with more names for music. Just enjoy it. And don't play revisionist history.
1999-02-18 00:55bloatOn Wed, 17 Feb 1999, David J. Gebhart wrote: > > > >From: EvilIzzo@aol.com > >Subject: Re:
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On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, David J. Gebhart wrote:
quoted 15 lines From: EvilIzzo@aol.com> > > >From: EvilIzzo@aol.com > >Subject: Re: (idm) What is Trip Hop? > > > >So what is it anyway, and do we care here at the idm list? > > well, honestly, no. bottom line is whether you like it or not. period. > I could care less what it's called. > > but we all like to compartmentalize and organize and try to understand, > so here's some of my spare change: > > in my book, dj shadow invented "trip hop." or perhaps perfected the > form. some will claim portishead, but the shadow had a coupla twelves
I believe what really kicked it off was the Mo-Wax Headz compilation. Certainly popularized tripHop in england. though even then there were plenty of people who didn't like the name and said it should be called LeftFoot or AbstractHiphop or something. Anyhow headz was the one. It had some shadow on it, also some autechre bizzarely enough, and thanked Black Dog as a big inspiration. ("Whose gonna take the weight?" :)) CheeripAndrewC.
1999-02-18 00:59Simon Paulsome bored marketers *new* name for hip-hop...........
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some bored marketers *new* name for hip-hop...........