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1998-11-06 13:28Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks (idm) Re: (313) Pole and Scion live last night in Windsor
1998-11-06 14:07Jeff Davis <pHlow> (idm) Pole and Scion live last night in Windsor
1998-11-11 04:14Bill VanLoo (idm) Re: (313) Pole and Scion live last night in Windsor
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1998-11-06 13:28Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks***Jeff: Wish I coulda been there enjoying the belowmentioned goodies as well :) re: Scion
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***Jeff: Wish I coulda been there enjoying the belowmentioned goodies as well :) re: Scion: I'm pretty sure this was their *5th* performance together, but lst with this new set up. All three of them were putting a ton of time into getting their live sets ready last week and figuring out, after shows in Germany but not outside, how they would best take their setups overseas-- I trust people at the upcoming TO, SF, LA, and NY shows will share your sentiments below. Live tour prep and music talk from the three involved went up day before yesterday on http://www.globalserve.net/~cognition if anyone would like a bit of background before they see the show, or simply want to hear some Berlin perspective on electronic music in 1998. You can hear how much they're looking forward to playing the whole tour and the passion is obviously being transmitted through their performances. Thanks. Andrew Jeff Davis wrote:
quoted 69 lines 3 loonies (my canadian change left over after last night) says i'm up> 3 loonies (my canadian change left over after last night) says i'm up > before lance, therefore hopefully qualified to post the first review of an > outstanding performance last night. > > the cleveland contingent (both of us) made the 180 mile jaunt to windsor to > catch this show. thanks to a stack of good CD's, advanced radar detection > technology and ample coffee and mountain dew, this was a totally painless > drive and we arrived at the venue shortly before doors opened. > > once inside the cozy thirteen below, we found an underground venue perfect > for m-nus's weekly ambient outings and even better for a show from our > berlin guests. solid brick and stone walls , low ceilings and tight > bassbins gave indication that the dub would flow mighty. and it did. > > clark warner warmed up the slowly arriving audience with a smooth and > functional set that gradually transitioned from eno and namlook to > aufenhalt (sp?) dynamo and burial mix. our faction was getting > increasingly amped. > > stefan, pete and rene then arrived and began final gear preparations. i > beleive it was scion's first ever live performance together and pole's > first live PA around a flight caseable gear setup. pole's equipment > appeared to consist of a powerbook, a large sampler and mixing board and > maybe some additional delay and reverb effects boxes invisible to my > untrained eye. stefan began to create, and the output was wave upon wave > of deep subsonic bass. sounds appeared to be echo folded back upon > themselves two , three and even four times; creating pulsing ripples of > sound. he triggered sampled cellar doors of powerful low frequencies that > shook the cones mightily. sampled simple synth and harmonica melodies > added meloncholy beauty to the rush of sound. the trademark clicks and pops > flowed in the background with coursing analog warmth. only minor powerbook > technical difficulties plagued him during his first track, but after that > it was flawless and awe inspiring sonics all the way. most of the tracks > appeared to be new, and if the PA was any indication, the new EP will be > one to jump on. > > pete and rene then activated their setup, which appeared to consist > primarily of a laptop, an R8, and e-mu sampler and mixing deck. Rene manned > the e-mu, Peter the R8 and the mixer was community property. they spewed > out a powerful set which, if they were the CR01 tracks, were radically > reshaped versions. the music seemed to be a mosaic of all our favorite > sounds and effects from the BC/CR/MS/BM/R&S back catalogue all incorporated > into one performance. confounding stereo panning interwoven with filtered > sweeps and clickity drum programming built a very rich groove. i was eyes > closed mojo groovin' through most of their set. they would take chords and > strings and compress, extrude and pinch them gradually until they became > percussion. amazing. it was a lot of fun to watch them collaborate / > negotiate realtime over proper board settings for desired sound shaping. > for a first ever live PA, it appeared very well thought out and was > received heartily. > > afterwards, we had a chance to speak briefly with stefan and peter, both > very down to earth guys. peter seemed not quite satisfied with the quality > of the set, but we assured him that it was excellent and he seemed to > appreciate the feedback. > > big props to the local 313/idm posse who were in effect. it's always great > to convert netheadz@domains.com which you've respected for several years > into warm smiles and handshakes. we received great local hospitality from > bill vanloo, brian bickel, steve lammers, ian malbon & katy?, dale > lawrence, jeff?, mike geiger and probably others which i'm sorry i forgot. > > all in all a great show to kick off what should be an impressive mini-tour. > if you are within driving distance of any of the upcoming performances -- > BE THERE!!!! > > i would kill for a copy of the DAT which they made last night..... > > peeeeeeeeeeece,
-- Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks 1096 Queen St #123 Halifax NS Canada B3H 2R9 TEL 902-422-7132 FAX 902-422-1262 http://www.globalserve.net/~cognition (Cognition Audioworks/In The Mix: listen : read) In The Mix show 575: Richie Hawtin/Neil Landstrumm/Merrick Brown In The Mix show 576: John Tejada/Damon Wild/D.JeRome playing now:Juan Atkins:Wax Trax! Mastermix Volume One:TVT world premiere
1998-11-06 14:07Jeff Davis <pHlow>3 loonies (my canadian change left over after last night) says i'm up before lance, theref
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3 loonies (my canadian change left over after last night) says i'm up before lance, therefore hopefully qualified to post the first review of an outstanding performance last night. the cleveland contingent (both of us) made the 180 mile jaunt to windsor to catch this show. thanks to a stack of good CD's, advanced radar detection technology and ample coffee and mountain dew, this was a totally painless drive and we arrived at the venue shortly before doors opened. once inside the cozy thirteen below, we found an underground venue perfect for m-nus's weekly ambient outings and even better for a show from our berlin guests. solid brick and stone walls , low ceilings and tight bassbins gave indication that the dub would flow mighty. and it did. clark warner warmed up the slowly arriving audience with a smooth and functional set that gradually transitioned from eno and namlook to aufenhalt (sp?) dynamo and burial mix. our faction was getting increasingly amped. stefan, pete and rene then arrived and began final gear preparations. i beleive it was scion's first ever live performance together and pole's first live PA around a flight caseable gear setup. pole's equipment appeared to consist of a powerbook, a large sampler and mixing board and maybe some additional delay and reverb effects boxes invisible to my untrained eye. stefan began to create, and the output was wave upon wave of deep subsonic bass. sounds appeared to be echo folded back upon themselves two , three and even four times; creating pulsing ripples of sound. he triggered sampled cellar doors of powerful low frequencies that shook the cones mightily. sampled simple synth and harmonica melodies added meloncholy beauty to the rush of sound. the trademark clicks and pops flowed in the background with coursing analog warmth. only minor powerbook technical difficulties plagued him during his first track, but after that it was flawless and awe inspiring sonics all the way. most of the tracks appeared to be new, and if the PA was any indication, the new EP will be one to jump on. pete and rene then activated their setup, which appeared to consist primarily of a laptop, an R8, and e-mu sampler and mixing deck. Rene manned the e-mu, Peter the R8 and the mixer was community property. they spewed out a powerful set which, if they were the CR01 tracks, were radically reshaped versions. the music seemed to be a mosaic of all our favorite sounds and effects from the BC/CR/MS/BM/R&S back catalogue all incorporated into one performance. confounding stereo panning interwoven with filtered sweeps and clickity drum programming built a very rich groove. i was eyes closed mojo groovin' through most of their set. they would take chords and strings and compress, extrude and pinch them gradually until they became percussion. amazing. it was a lot of fun to watch them collaborate / negotiate realtime over proper board settings for desired sound shaping. for a first ever live PA, it appeared very well thought out and was received heartily. afterwards, we had a chance to speak briefly with stefan and peter, both very down to earth guys. peter seemed not quite satisfied with the quality of the set, but we assured him that it was excellent and he seemed to appreciate the feedback. big props to the local 313/idm posse who were in effect. it's always great to convert netheadz@domains.com which you've respected for several years into warm smiles and handshakes. we received great local hospitality from bill vanloo, brian bickel, steve lammers, ian malbon & katy?, dale lawrence, jeff?, mike geiger and probably others which i'm sorry i forgot. all in all a great show to kick off what should be an impressive mini-tour. if you are within driving distance of any of the upcoming performances -- BE THERE!!!! i would kill for a copy of the DAT which they made last night..... peeeeeeeeeeece,
1998-11-11 04:14Bill VanLooRegarding the CR show last Thursday: > the cleveland contingent (both of us) made the 180
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Regarding the CR show last Thursday:
quoted 4 lines the cleveland contingent (both of us) made the 180 mile jaunt to windsor to> the cleveland contingent (both of us) made the 180 mile jaunt to windsor to > catch this show. thanks to a stack of good CD's, advanced radar detection > technology and ample coffee and mountain dew, this was a totally painless > drive and we arrived at the venue shortly before doors opened.
Respect to those traveling long distances for this! I had a feeling before the show that it would be mostly hardcores in attendance...I was right.
quoted 4 lines once inside the cozy thirteen below, we found an underground venue perfect> once inside the cozy thirteen below, we found an underground venue perfect > for m-nus's weekly ambient outings and even better for a show from our > berlin guests. solid brick and stone walls , low ceilings and tight > bassbins gave indication that the dub would flow mighty. and it did.
No joke. I was in the coffee house that's directly above 13 Below, and Pole's soundcheck was shaking the floor.
quoted 4 lines clark warner warmed up the slowly arriving audience with a smooth and> clark warner warmed up the slowly arriving audience with a smooth and > functional set that gradually transitioned from eno and namlook to > aufenhalt (sp?) dynamo and burial mix. our faction was getting > increasingly amped.
Amped is the right word. I had the beautiful experience of feeling the buzz from the red wine I'd drunk at dinner morph into excitement at the music - very nice. Clark played probably the best set I've _ever_ heard from him, and I'm a fan of his DJing to begin with. Highlights were hearing "Life goes on" by Kenny Larkin (damn, I love that track...a sublime track if ever there was one), the entire 14 minutes of "Shift" by Theorem (what a monster track), "At Les" by Carl Craig (it put a grin on my face from the opening chords to the end), and one of the Aufenthalt tracks by Dynamo (on Din, a CR-related label). He also dropped plenty of German material ("Everything but stuff by the guys that were playing," Clark said, which translated to Rhythm & Sound 001, a CR record, plus some other stuff).
quoted 11 lines stefan began to create, and the output was wave upon wave> stefan began to create, and the output was wave upon wave > of deep subsonic bass. sounds appeared to be echo folded back upon > themselves two , three and even four times; creating pulsing ripples of > sound. he triggered sampled cellar doors of powerful low frequencies that > shook the cones mightily. sampled simple synth and harmonica melodies > added meloncholy beauty to the rush of sound. the trademark clicks and pops > flowed in the background with coursing analog warmth. only minor powerbook > technical difficulties plagued him during his first track, but after that > it was flawless and awe inspiring sonics all the way. most of the tracks > appeared to be new, and if the PA was any indication, the new EP will be > one to jump on.
One thing I found interesting about Pole playing live was that Rene Lowe (Vainqueur) seemed to be the one actually triggering sequences, while Stefan "played" the mixing desk. I have a great respect for this form of doing things - it continues perfectly in the tradion of engineers-turned-artists like Mad Professor. The 2 tracks that really got me were "Raum Eins" (probably because I recognized the pops & click immediately) and one of the tracks that he played through, then slowed down to half or 3/4 speed & let ride, with a really slow bassline that just sort of overwhelmed you. I'd been planning on waiting to pick up his full-length until in comes out on Matador, but in speaking with Stefan after the show he said it won't be out until January. I don't know if I can wait that long ;)
quoted 14 lines pete and rene then activated their setup, which appeared to consist> pete and rene then activated their setup, which appeared to consist > primarily of a laptop, an R8, and e-mu sampler and mixing deck. Rene manned > the e-mu, Peter the R8 and the mixer was community property. they spewed > out a powerful set which, if they were the CR01 tracks, were radically > reshaped versions. the music seemed to be a mosaic of all our favorite > sounds and effects from the BC/CR/MS/BM/R&S back catalogue all incorporated > into one performance. confounding stereo panning interwoven with filtered > sweeps and clickity drum programming built a very rich groove. i was eyes > closed mojo groovin' through most of their set. they would take chords and > strings and compress, extrude and pinch them gradually until they became > percussion. amazing. it was a lot of fun to watch them collaborate / > negotiate realtime over proper board settings for desired sound shaping. > for a first ever live PA, it appeared very well thought out and was > received heartily.
This is really an excellent description (big bonus points for using the word "extrude" in the context of sound engineering ;)). I can only add: the walls of sound these 2 produced was truly inspiring. Every time I thought I knew when a particular element would probably come in (a clap or hi-hat, for example), it didn't seem to materialize. This says to me: there's way to much predictable music, but the fact that their material worked so incredibly well says that it doesn't have to be like that.
quoted 5 lines big props to the local 313/idm posse who were in effect. it's always great> big props to the local 313/idm posse who were in effect. it's always great > to convert netheadz@domains.com which you've respected for several years > into warm smiles and handshakes. we received great local hospitality from > bill vanloo, brian bickel, steve lammers, ian malbon & katy?, dale > lawrence, jeff?, mike geiger and probably others which i'm sorry i forgot.
Likewise! Finally got to meet Lance (dammit, I wanted to buy you a drink! Next time...) and Jeff Davis. Good to meet you, gents.
quoted 1 line i would kill for a copy of the DAT which they made last night.....> i would kill for a copy of the DAT which they made last night.....
You and me both... Cheers, Bill / dj marathon -- Sigma6 Interactive Media / http://www.sigma6.com dj marathon: "fibre" up now @ http://www.flatplastic.com/
1998-11-11 13:22martin burbridgeBill VanLoo wrote: > I'd been planning on > waiting to pick > up his full-length until in
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Bill VanLoo wrote:
quoted 7 lines I'd been planning on> I'd been planning on > waiting to pick > up his full-length until in comes out on Matador, but in speaking > with Stefan > after the show he said it won't be out until January. I don't > know if I can wait > that long ;)
the pole lp is coming out on matador? i had meant to pick this up already but haven't yet. anyone know if it'll have extra track(s) like boc? can't find any info at the matador site. i did however come across david holmes described as an "Irish ambient house artist" -martin