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Hello all There comes a time for every newbie to throw in their two cents' worth (with our dollar valued so low, two cents Australian is pretty close to nothing) and wait to get savaged... Irene McC wrote:-

quoted 3 lines On 21 Oct 98, Greg Eden wrote re: Re: Subject: Re: (idm) Jockey Slut:

>On 21 Oct 98, Greg Eden wrote re: Re: Subject: Re: (idm) Jockey Slut: >> >23 years and counting! it's a dump. >> you should try living in sheffield.

quoted 1 line Is this turning into a 'let's-slag-off-our-hometown' >fest? Come and

>Is this turning into a 'let's-slag-off-our-hometown' >fest? Come and

visit me in Cape Town South Africa and >experience heaven on earth (at least in the >geographical/physical sense).

quoted 1 line Summer's HERE ! We have mountains, sea and scenery - >even a few half

>Summer's HERE ! We have mountains, sea and scenery - >even a few half

decent music shops. Hmmm... Manchester, Sheffield - "dumps"? I live in Brisbane - great climate, excellent beaches nearby, laidback lifestyle, sun, etc... But the city's dominant dance music tastes run to commercial tracks and happy hardcore. Is there, he suggests jokingly, an inverse proportional relationship between these two factors? That is, as the lifestyle becomes more pleasant, does the music around you becomes more crap? Hmmm... Re the ongoing Wire vs Jockey Slut vs other-magazines-Brisbane-shops-don't-get debate: martin burbridge wrote:-

quoted 1 line maybe i'm being obvious about this but doesn't one >cover dance music

>maybe i'm being obvious about this but doesn't one >cover dance music

that is sometimes experimental and >the other covers experimental music you can sometimes >dance to. seems like another case of whether apples >or oranges is currently yer bag. Exactly. And picking up a hip mag is no substitute for forming your own opinions about music. I sometimes find that if I read carefully the work of journalists I dislike, I can still get a reasonable idea of what a given record sounds like, and whether I'll like it, regardless of whether or not the journo does. Actually, I find this list is probably the best resource for learning about music that falls within its parameters (however IDM is defined), and a mag by its contributors would be a formidable publication indeed (its main strengths would be writers with solid musical knowledge and less arrogance than is often the case). So that's another subscriber, then. (Conflict of interest warning: I'm a journalist for a local music mag, but it's nothing for The Wire, etc to lose any sleep over.) Sorry to go on so long... Cheers, Tony == Tony Horner tony@dj.com.au _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Heh heh heh, I've been waiting for the right opportunity to respond to this post. I'm fairly certain I've got you ALL beat. First, the theory, as brought to us by one Tony Horner of Brisbane, Australia:

quoted 3 lines Is there, he suggests jokingly, an inverse proportional relationship

> Is there, he suggests jokingly, an inverse proportional relationship > between these two factors? That is, as the lifestyle becomes more > pleasant, does the music around you becomes more crap?

You THINK you're joking, but you're not; I submit, as exhibit A, MY current setting, Columbia, Missouri, USA (it's about a four-hour drive south from where Kent "chaircrusher" Williams lives, to give you a non-lurker basis for comparison). Oh, the lifestyle's pleasant enough; there's little crime, low cost-o'-living, etc.; but there is a price to be paid, and that is that you live in a town whose biggest cultural event this year was the fucking PROMISE KEEPERS :P, thus guaranteeing that no one even remotely out of the mainstream will EVER come here again, even though it's a decent-sized college town (apparently, we didn't have enough "art-fags" to drive them out, eh Kent?). You laugh, but take a look at all of the major IDM tour dates in the US that have been posted recently. Look at an atlas and mentally picture all of those stops; you'll notice about a four-hundred-mile radius zone of doom around Columbia into which very few IDM acts dare enter--despite the audiences they could receive in places like Kansas City or even *gasp* St. Louis. Oh, they'll go to little bumfuck college towns _outside_ the zone of doom (Fort Collins gets MMM?! wtf is that? Boulder I can understand, but Fort Collins? What, did Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan cancel at the last minute?) why can't they come to MY little bumfuck college town, dammit? :) There's an audience, here. Really there is! I know this list has (or had at one time) a few people from Columbia on it, and out of only a thousand or so listmembers worldwide, that's not a bad representation! Which brings me to my scant IDM content. What, if anything, IS happening hereabouts IDMwise in the near future (aside from Mix Master Mike in KC)? St. Louis, Kansas City, Lawrence, anywhere within the aforementioned zone of doom would be nice. Thanks! --Andy Wells P.S.: just to put the other people who responded to this thread in their place: *Brisbane's a hell of a lot bigger than Columbia, we're about a thousand miles from the nearest beach, and in OUR summers the humidity is downright oppressive. And we have no local music magazines (at least nothing that doesn't have the word hoe-down in it). *Manchester and Sheffield are also bigger than Columbia and not nearly as remote. I'll bet you could get to London much faster than it would take me to drive to either St. Louis or Kansas City, and when you got there, you wouldn't be shit(e) out of luck as far as IDM goes. So in summation, to everyone else on the list who complained about the hinterlandish qualities of their home town, please... CRY ME A FUCKING RIVER! ;)

quoted 11 lines So in summation, to everyone else on the list who complained about the

>>So in summation, to everyone else on the list who complained about the >>hinterlandish qualities of their home town, please... CRY ME A FUCKING >>RIVER! ;) > > They make a place for culturally oppressed people like you: New York >City! > > Or you could run away to Los Angeles, but you'd have to sell your body >there. > > - Cf

When I was down in Cornwall for my hols in the summer, and after a days swimmin and surfin, charityshop scroungin & laffs & some scrum with da Cornsish folks & surfies in the Tap House pub at St. Agnes in the evening, we'd look thru the local rag to see if anythin was happening musicwise ... and we were given a choice of, ahem, Leo Sayer (the little golden whoooshy afro bloke imself, what? have they preserved him in aspic since the 70's or wot? or else Line Dancing, which seems to have caught on in a BIG way down Kernow, or else dress up in yer 70s togs for a Saturday Night Fever 70s Special night, with all the surfie pseuds in Newquay!!! errr ... so we thought we'd give da Cornish music scene a miss and stick with our own soundz back in our big wigwam of a tent, back at the campsite in Trevallas Porth ... No blinkin wonder all dem Rephlex lads zoomed up to London, as soon as they could ... Cornwall is my favourite place in all da world but the sound of the ocean and the wild, wild winds down there are waaaaay more music to my ears than anything happenin in the clubs there, dats for sure! (tho apparently they do have a Northern Soul night happenin once a month now at The Bowgie, wouldn't have minded catchin that, I like a bit o Sweet Soul Music, and twould have been wicked to see if there were any top Northern Soul dancers there too, whether Kernow lads can hack it Wigan styleee! yehhhhhh, 'Keep The Faith'! ) Aless