IDM Mailing Archive

and

quoted 2 lines plastikman though..but it was still worth the $8 to see genesis p orridge

>plastikman though..but it was still worth the $8 to see genesis p orridge >lookin extremely glamorous. (were those implants?)

Speaking of which, who the hell is Genesis P. Orrige, and is it a man or a woman? I saw modulations, and i couldn't for the life of me figure it out...what were his/her contributions? It was somewhat ambigous in the movie...

Somebody fill in the rest, but the quick story - he's partially responsible for a big push for industrial/ambient/electronic music in the late 70's. He was the backbone of Throbbing Gristle (along with Cosey Fanni Tutti and Chris Carter, not to mention Peter Christopherson [Coil]), which played some of the earliest ambient/noise concerts in 1981 to a completely unsuspecting audience; worked with Cabaret Voltaire in the beginning (Chris & Cosey formed out of this, more or less); started (?) Psychic TV (and the Temple of Psychic Youth? Anyone?) which hosted some of the earliest "acid house" parties, from which one could conceivably link rave culture; and continues to work with modern industrial bands and such, especially Pigface. An essential figure in the push away from the guitar in the late 70's, disparaging punk for trying to be rebellious but really just modifying rock music and using its tools. Contributions? Massive. Again, please fill this in, people - I can always stand to learn more/correct mistakes! --Phrenetic ***** Check out the New! Improved! Official Phrenetic Energy homepage at http://www.trailerpark.com/stagedive/phrnetic/index.html - now with MP3 -----Original Message----- From: Ali Lalani <alalan@po-box.mcgill.ca> To: Jenny Le <jle@orion.it.luc.edu> Cc: idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org> Date: Wednesday, September 09, 1998 7:02 PM Subject: (idm) Re: (amb) Re: Modulations

quoted 9 lines and

>and >>plastikman though..but it was still worth the $8 to see genesis p orridge >>lookin extremely glamorous. (were those implants?) > > >Speaking of which, who the hell is Genesis P. Orrige, and is it a man or a >woman? I saw modulations, and i couldn't for the life of me figure it >out...what were his/her contributions? It was somewhat ambigous in the >movie...

quoted 4 lines Speaking of which, who the hell is Genesis P. Orrige, and is it a man or a

>>Speaking of which, who the hell is Genesis P. Orrige, and is it a man or a >>woman? I saw modulations, and i couldn't for the life of me figure it >>out...what were his/her contributions? It was somewhat ambigous in the >>movie...

quoted 3 lines Psychic TV was pretty heavy in the Acid House scene circa 88-90' (also

>Psychic TV was pretty heavy in the Acid House scene circa 88-90' (also >under the pseodonym "Jack the Tab", among others), and released some >suprisingly still listenable singles/collections in that period.

... which also featured mr. wonderful himself, _dave ball_ (you know, the synth guy from _soft cell_) who later ended up in _the grid_. what a waste of talent that was ! does anyone know what he is up to now ??? dv8,5

On 09/09/98 19:13:38 you wrote:

quoted 7 lines Somebody fill in the rest, but the quick story - he's partially responsible

> >Somebody fill in the rest, but the quick story - he's partially responsible >for a big push for industrial/ambient/electronic music in the late 70's. He >was the backbone of Throbbing Gristle (along with Cosey Fanni Tutti and >Chris Carter, not to mention Peter Christopherson [Coil]), which played some >of the earliest ambient/noise concerts in 1981 to a completely unsuspecting >audience;

tg were pretty much broken up by '81....their earliest stuff was around 76-78...

quoted 2 lines worked with Cabaret Voltaire in the beginning (Chris & Cosey

>worked with Cabaret Voltaire in the beginning (Chris & Cosey >formed out of this, more or less)

out of tg, yes, but not cv.... ; started (?) Psychic TV (and the Temple of

quoted 2 lines Psychic Youth? Anyone?) which hosted some of the earliest "acid house"

>Psychic Youth? Anyone?) which hosted some of the earliest "acid house" >parties, from which one could conceivably link rave culture;

psychic tv def. had an acid house period, but they had nothing to do with the creation of acid house...although they did have a unique style of acid house which i suppose some bands may have ripped off later...(i think mr. mc dowall was bitching about someone else commenting that ptv started acid house???)

quoted 3 lines and continues

> and continues >to work with modern industrial bands and such, especially Pigface. >An essential figure in the push away from the guitar in the late 70's

considering that guitar and bass were tg's primary instruments at the start of their career, i wouldn't say this was entirely accurate...it was definitely set apart from (and predated) the punk movement, but tg weren't anti-guitar to any degree...

quoted 1 line Contributions? Massive.

>Contributions? Massive.

agreed there, but genesis had no more contributions than any of the other members of tg to current idm...in fact chris and cosey and especially peter christopherson (coil) had much more influence on idm than psychic tv...a good lot of idm musicians cite coil (especially that black light district album) as an influence.... np: the cure "m" "a dream is worth a thousand pictures, the mouths of lampreys a thousand more..."