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quoted 4 lines It's probably just from viewing it in two different lighting

> > It's probably just from viewing it in two different lighting >situations, but I thought I'd mention it and ask for help in making sure >there's not acid in the water cooler here at work.

well, there *may* in fact be acid in your water cooler at work, but Ive also noticed a slight moire'-like pattern on the top side of the Ae CD. an oblique lighting angle makes it more visible, but theres definitely a slight surface difference. I wonder if the also blank ABB3 cd demonstrates this strange property as well, which may just be a strange illusion created by the digital information refracted somehow thru the plastic. any optics experts care to explain this? ernie Ernesto Ikerd, (817) 763-4795 Company Graphics, Dept 17, MZ-1156 Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircaft Systems Fort Worth, Texas

quoted 10 lines It's probably just from viewing it in two different lighting

> > It's probably just from viewing it in two different lighting > >situations, but I thought I'd mention it and ask for help in making sure > >there's not acid in the water cooler here at work. > well, there *may* in fact be acid in your water cooler at work, but Ive > also noticed a slight moire'-like pattern on the top side of the Ae CD. > an oblique lighting angle makes it more visible, but theres definitely a > slight surface difference. I wonder if the also blank ABB3 cd > demonstrates this strange property as well, which may just be a strange > illusion created by the digital information refracted somehow thru the > plastic.

i haven't seen the cd, but most cd graphics are screenprinted, a process where moire patterns can be a problem and are more or less evident depending on the design being printed. eric onnow: schnittstelle (rather interesting)

On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, eric wrote:

quoted 3 lines i haven't seen the cd, but most cd graphics are screenprinted, a

> i haven't seen the cd, but most cd graphics are screenprinted, a > process where moire patterns can be a problem and are more or less > evident depending on the design being printed.

no there is definetly something 'printed'(but not screen printed) on it ... it sorta looks like an oily watermark or something ... it would be interesting to look at two of them and see if they are the same or if it was just some random process they did to each CD m.

On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, eric wrote:

quoted 2 lines i haven't seen the cd, but most cd graphics are screenprinted, a process where moire

> i haven't seen the cd, but most cd graphics are screenprinted, a process where moire patterns can > be a problem and are more or less evident depending on the design being printed.

nope - disc has zero printing on it whatsoever. * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com #### a fortune cookie i ate 08/06/98 told me: "a girlfriend is a wine bottle. a wife is a bottle of wine."

I was thinking it was a clear coating applied in some way as to be refractive in different ways. I thought it to be pretty keen, personally. On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Ernesto Ikerd wrote:

quoted 23 lines It's probably just from viewing it in two different lighting

> > > > It's probably just from viewing it in two different lighting > >situations, but I thought I'd mention it and ask for help in making sure > >there's not acid in the water cooler here at work. > well, there *may* in fact be acid in your water cooler at work, but Ive > also noticed a slight moire'-like pattern on the top side of the Ae CD. > an oblique lighting angle makes it more visible, but theres definitely a > slight surface difference. I wonder if the also blank ABB3 cd > demonstrates this strange property as well, which may just be a strange > illusion created by the digital information refracted somehow thru the > plastic. > > any optics experts care to explain this? > > ernie > > > Ernesto Ikerd, (817) 763-4795 > Company Graphics, Dept 17, MZ-1156 > Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircaft Systems > Fort Worth, Texas > >

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On the topic of things almost not worth discussing, can anyone confirm or deny a pattern on the top of their Autechre LP5 CDs? It seems to me that when I opened up the CD it was completely non descript on both sides, but now there is a distinct, subtle strange pattern on the top that wasn't there like a week ago. It's probably just from viewing it in two different lighting situations, but I thought I'd mention it and ask for help in making sure there's not acid in the water cooler here at work. N.

Regarding the supposed pattern on the Ae LP5 CD, I can see an oily pattern but this effect is seen on ALL CDs I have on the label side where it is clear. I've just looked at Disjecta's Looking for Snags CD and the pattern is there too when you angle the CD correctly to a light source. previous message:

quoted 11 lines i haven't seen the cd, but most cd graphics are screenprinted, a

>> i haven't seen the cd, but most cd graphics are screenprinted, a >> process where moire patterns can be a problem and are more or less >> evident depending on the design being printed. > > >no there is definetly something 'printed'(but not screen printed) on it >... it sorta looks like an oily watermark or something ... it would be >interesting to look at two of them and see if they are the same or if it >was just some random process they did to each CD > >m.

correct me if i'm wrong, but the little rings that you're seeing are the individual tracks on the album. no art, no mystery. i'm really surprised this has gone on this long. alan! On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Edward Pond wrote:

quoted 19 lines Regarding the supposed pattern on the Ae LP5 CD, I can see an oily

> Regarding the supposed pattern on the Ae LP5 CD, I can see an oily > pattern but this effect is seen on ALL CDs I have on the label side > where it is clear. I've just looked at Disjecta's Looking for Snags > CD and the pattern is there too when you angle the CD correctly to > a light source. > > previous message: > >> i haven't seen the cd, but most cd graphics are screenprinted, a > >> process where moire patterns can be a problem and are more or less > >> evident depending on the design being printed. > > > > > >no there is definetly something 'printed'(but not screen printed) on it > >... it sorta looks like an oily watermark or something ... it would be > >interesting to look at two of them and see if they are the same or if it > >was just some random process they did to each CD > > > >m. >

quoted 8 lines At 09:41 PM 21 - 08 - 1998 -0500, you wrote:

>At 09:41 PM 21 - 08 - 1998 -0500, you wrote: >>I just looked at my LP5 CD closely, and there seems to be a pattern, all >>right. Two concentric rings of small circles, the outer ring with twelve >>(in the positions of the numbers on a clock) and the inner one with 6 >>(aligned with the circles in the outer ring, in every other position). >>Hold the CD under a bright light at the correct angle and you may see it, >>too. >>

i noticed this when i first opened the case, but can't seem to see it anymore. on the topic of cds, my copy of Scorn : Ellipsis has a gold bottom (as opposed to the normal mirrory-silverish kind) anyone know what's up? jeremy[x]axon http://come.to/rewind.html breeyn[e]mccarney updated monthly starting 08/98 broccoli[fat]cat ===================================== "Reality is that which, when you stop beleiving in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick In life, he suffered from a sense of unreality, as do many Englishmen. -- "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" by Jorge Luis Borges

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Jeremy Axon wrote:

quoted 1 line i noticed this when i first opened the case, but can't seem to see it anymore.

> i noticed this when i first opened the case, but can't seem to see it anymore.

And so it was written, "Those who are pure in heart may see the mystical pattern of autechre." It's existance has been denied by both the band and Warp records president/strongarm/primary shareholder Greg Eden, but members of the autechre cult refuse to believe them. "I haven't taken acid for a few years, but I might not be all the way back yet" was Mr. Gil's comment, but he went on to say "Hey, you ever heard of l0phtcrack?" "I remeber when people were seeing patterns on Aphex Twin cds a few years ago," said a member of the "IDM list" who requested he remain nameless. "Next year people will be seeing patterns on some other band's cds. The annoying thing is that eventually someone will make up a fake news story and post it to the list." IAMaCOPIER