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Re: (idm) 7/8 Hip Hop?

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◇ merged from 2 subjects: (idm) 7/8 hip hop? · (idm) fax titles? (general question)
1998-07-09 14:12Christopher Fahey (idm) 7/8 Hip Hop?
├─ 1998-07-09 17:55Jon Logan Re: (idm) 7/8 Hip Hop?
│ └─ 1998-07-13 23:10William D. VanLoo Re: (idm) 7/8 Hip Hop?
├─ 1998-07-09 20:24Maggi Payne (idm) Fax Titles? (general question)
│ └─ 1998-07-09 20:41Jon Logan Re: (idm) Fax Titles? (general question)
└─ 1998-07-10 00:05Solenoid Re: (idm) 7/8 Hip Hop?
1998-07-09 21:40William Cordray Re: (idm) 7/8 Hip Hop?
1998-07-09 22:15Christopher Fahey Re: (idm) 7/8 Hip Hop?
└─ 1998-07-10 00:48Solenoid Re: (idm) 7/8 Hip Hop?
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1998-07-09 14:12Christopher FaheyDoes anyone know of any hip hop done in alternative time signatures? MC's rapping to 5/4 t
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Christopher Fahey
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Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:12:59 -0400
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(idm) 7/8 Hip Hop?
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Does anyone know of any hip hop done in alternative time signatures? MC's rapping to 5/4 time or anything? I know some turntablists will sometimes scratch a beat in triplets and do some freestyle time sig changes, but I'm talking about full tracks using non 4/4 time signatures, especially something which has an MC as well. -Cf ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - c h r i s t ø p h e r f ª h e y . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ chris@raremedium.com 2 1 2 - 6 3 4 - 6 9 5 0 x 2 5 8 http://www.raremedium.com - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - .
1998-07-09 17:55Jon LoganI could be wrong, but I thought I heard that T-Power's Waveform has a vocal track which is
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Jon Logan
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Christopher Fahey , IDM
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Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:55:05 -0700
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I could be wrong, but I thought I heard that T-Power's Waveform has a vocal track which is non-standard time signature. However, the vocals are more ragga in style, and the tempo is faster than hip hop. At 10:12 AM -0400 7/9/98, Christopher Fahey wrote:
quoted 18 lines Does anyone know of any hip hop done in alternative time signatures?> Does anyone know of any hip hop done in alternative time signatures? >MC's rapping to 5/4 time or anything? > > I know some turntablists will sometimes scratch a beat in triplets and >do some freestyle time sig changes, but I'm talking about full tracks using >non 4/4 time signatures, especially something which has an MC as well. > >-Cf > >' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - > > c h r i s t ø p h e r f ª h e y > >. _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ > chris@raremedium.com >2 1 2 - 6 3 4 - 6 9 5 0 x 2 5 8 > http://www.raremedium.com >- ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - .
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1998-07-13 23:10William D. VanLooI can't remember the track name, but on the Roots album "Illadelph Halflife" there's a tra
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William D. VanLoo
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Jon Logan
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Mon, 13 Jul 1998 19:10:43 -0400 (EDT)
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I can't remember the track name, but on the Roots album "Illadelph Halflife" there's a track in a strange time signature featuring Q-Tip from A Tribe Called Quest - great track, too. Bill -- work: www.sigma6.com connect: 313.sigma6.com http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~wdvanloo/personal/
1998-07-09 20:24Maggi Paynehello, this record store near me is selling a whole stack of Fax titles at a discount pric
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Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:24:36 -0400 (EDT)
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hello, this record store near me is selling a whole stack of Fax titles at a discount price...and i haven't really explored what the label has had to offer, except for an occassional Namlook disc...so, my question, what are the essential Fax titles? thanks, EMW.
1998-07-09 20:41Jon LoganThis question pops up every two weeks on the ambient list, and slightly less often here. T
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Jon Logan
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Maggi Payne ,
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Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:41:11 -0700
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Re: (idm) Fax Titles? (general question)
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This question pops up every two weeks on the ambient list, and slightly less often here. Try visiting 2350.org, hyperreal.org/fax, and faxlabel.com. There are reviews and samples galore. also, sleepbot.com has a great bunch of reviews of fax titles, as well as other discs. my quickie essential list is: ambiant otaku organic cloud 2350 broadway, the whole series air 1 + 2 outland 1 sultan transonic 1 from within 1 shades of orion 1 IF 2 and a few others I can't remember... i've been very disappointed with fax releases over the last year or so. I think they reached their highwater mark in 1995. At 4:24 PM -0400 7/9/98, Maggi Payne wrote:
quoted 8 lines hello,>hello, > >this record store near me is selling a whole stack of Fax titles at a >discount price...and i haven't really explored what the label has had to >offer, except for an occassional Namlook disc...so, my question, what are >the essential Fax titles? > >thanks, EMW.
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1998-07-10 00:05SolenoidOn Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Christopher Fahey wrote: > Does anyone know of any hip hop done in alt
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Thu, 9 Jul 1998 17:05:51 -0700 (PDT)
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On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Christopher Fahey wrote:
quoted 6 lines Does anyone know of any hip hop done in alternative time signatures?> Does anyone know of any hip hop done in alternative time signatures? > MC's rapping to 5/4 time or anything? > > I know some turntablists will sometimes scratch a beat in triplets and > do some freestyle time sig changes, but I'm talking about full tracks using > non 4/4 time signatures, especially something which has an MC as well.
What about "Here Comes a Different Kind of Rap Track, Not the Usual Four-Bar Loop Crap" by Shut Up and Dance from about '92? I'm not kidding about that title. I can't remember if it is 4/4 with an usual number of bars or is another time signature... solenoid@europa.com <------+
1998-07-09 21:40William CordrayI've done a couple of beats in triplets but I haven't found any mcs willing to rhyme over
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William Cordray
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Christopher Fahey , IDM
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Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:40:08 -0500
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I've done a couple of beats in triplets but I haven't found any mcs willing to rhyme over it. They tell me it's just "too weird". Most of them think my regular 4/4 stuff is weird as well. That's their problem ;) William Cordray wcordray@pdq.net At 10:12 AM -0400 7/9/98, Christopher Fahey wrote:
quoted 18 lines Does anyone know of any hip hop done in alternative time signatures?> Does anyone know of any hip hop done in alternative time signatures? >MC's rapping to 5/4 time or anything? > > I know some turntablists will sometimes scratch a beat in triplets and >do some freestyle time sig changes, but I'm talking about full tracks using >non 4/4 time signatures, especially something which has an MC as well. > >-Cf > >' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - > > c h r i s t ø p h e r f ª h e y > >. _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ > chris@raremedium.com >2 1 2 - 6 3 4 - 6 9 5 0 x 2 5 8 > http://www.raremedium.com >- ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - .
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Logan Work: 415 543-2800 UI Droog Home: 415 487-0424 CriticalPath, Inc. Mobile: 415 902-8079 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
1998-07-09 22:15Christopher Fahey>From: William Cordray >I've done a couple of beats in triplets but I haven't found any mc
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Christopher Fahey
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William Cordray , IDM
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Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:15:33 -0400
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quoted 1 line From: William Cordray>From: William Cordray
quoted 3 lines I've done a couple of beats in triplets but I haven't found any mcs willing>I've done a couple of beats in triplets but I haven't found any mcs willing >to rhyme over it. They tell me it's just "too weird". Most of >them think my regular 4/4 stuff is weird as well.
That's what I figured. Somebody'll do it someday. Fats Waller did 3/4 jazz with violins. -Cf
1998-07-10 00:48SolenoidOn Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Christopher Fahey wrote: > >From: William Cordray > > >I've done a cou
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Solenoid
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Christopher Fahey
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William Cordray , IDM
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Thu, 9 Jul 1998 17:48:35 -0700 (PDT)
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On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Christopher Fahey wrote:
quoted 5 lines From: William Cordray> >From: William Cordray > > >I've done a couple of beats in triplets but I haven't found any mcs willing > >to rhyme over it. They tell me it's just "too weird". Most of > >them think my regular 4/4 stuff is weird as well.
There is a 12/4 (swingy, but really uses triplets, so not really a shuffle) track by DJ Kid and/or MC Love on Skyywalker records from Florida. I think it is called "Rockin Robin" and it is very 50's pop sounding in a silly way. The rapper sounds like he is 15 or something. Seems like it is from '91 or so. solenoid
quoted 10 lines That's what I figured. Somebody'll do it someday. Fats Waller did 3/4 jazz> > > > That's what I figured. Somebody'll do it someday. Fats Waller did 3/4 jazz > with violins. > > -Cf > > >
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