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1998-06-22 23:03FreyGuy (idm) CD scratch removal - thanks IDM
└─ 1998-06-23 09:35Irene McC Re: (idm) CD scratch removal - thanks IDM
1998-06-23 13:27jif Re: (idm) CD scratch removal - thanks IDM
└─ 1998-06-23 15:11Irene McC Re: (idm) CD scratch removal - thanks IDM
1998-06-23 16:21waving AND drowning Re: (idm) CD scratch removal - thanks IDM
1998-06-23 23:16FreyGuy Re: (idm) CD scratch removal - thanks IDM
└─ 1998-06-23 02:59A. Mukerjee Re: (idm) CD scratch removal - thanks IDM
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1998-06-22 23:03FreyGuyJust wanted to thank the kind folks who participated in the recent "how to get scratches o
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Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:03:05 -0500
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Just wanted to thank the kind folks who participated in the recent "how to get scratches out of CDs" thread. It has paid off well for me on two CDs that I was about to reorder as a result of my scratches... The method I chose to attempt: Non-baking soda tooth paste bit worked like a charm (I was surprised and very impressed actually... the CDs in question went from not playing the last 4 tracks at all.. to seemlessness)... not one skip left! Kev. np: Phenomyna - Unexplained (thnx Wezz) =-=-=-=-=- FreyGuy <Everyday is Freyday> Network/Notes Administrator NMB Technologies ICQ:4784088 "Like the generation of the revolutionary dead, we have a destiny to create."-Alvin Toffler
1998-06-23 09:35Irene McCOn 22 Jun 98, FreyGuy wrote re: (idm) CD scratch removal > tooth paste Whooo.... thanks fo
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On 22 Jun 98, FreyGuy wrote re: (idm) CD scratch removal
quoted 1 line tooth paste> tooth paste
Whooo.... thanks for taking the plunge and trying it out. I have now polished TEEX1, disc 2 with Colgate blue minty gel :-) and also dotted the printed side with metallic silver marker pen. It's drying out at the moment before being test-driven. The last 4 tracks don't play - and it's the Sabres of Paradise one I'd like restored most. Holding thumbs in anticipation..... I *
1998-06-23 13:27jif> Do let me know. Let's hope the new sex appeal of the breath-freshened > plates doesn't r
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quoted 11 lines Do let me know. Let's hope the new sex appeal of the breath-freshened> Do let me know. Let's hope the new sex appeal of the breath-freshened > plates doesn't result in any undue friction between them so as to cause > more scratches. Then again, if they start reproducing, it may indeed be > an interesting venture. Homegrown collaborations. A whole new thread > could shoot up over the ethics of breeding cds, which -if any - artist > should be getting royalties and how many generations one would have to > wait before one could ethically burn copies. And then there would be the > resurgence (in a different vein) of the old "music to mate by" > thread...music which mates well with other music. *Dating* services, > "protection" - gender issues (how do you tell a male cd from a female?), > geez the imagination runs.
hee hee hee! no but seriously, what is the exact technique? do you just lather/rinse/repeat? do you have to use gel, or is paste just as good? im sorry i didnt stick around the original thread to long, and besides some more people could be interested in this method since people the world over are succumbing to it... thanks jif
1998-06-23 15:11Irene McCOn 23 Jun 98, jif wrote re: Re: (idm) CD scratch removal - than: > do you have to use gel,
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On 23 Jun 98, jif wrote re: Re: (idm) CD scratch removal - than:
quoted 1 line do you have to use gel, or is paste just as good?> do you have to use gel, or is paste just as good?
Nyeeaaagh, the gel didn't work. Maybe I ought to have used white paste? At least the bits that played before *still* play, so it's no worse than I started out with - but it's surely absolutely unimproved... I *
1998-06-23 16:21waving AND drowningIrene McC wrote: > On 22 Jun 98, FreyGuy wrote re: (idm) CD scratch removal > > > tooth pa
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Irene McC wrote:
quoted 14 lines On 22 Jun 98, FreyGuy wrote re: (idm) CD scratch removal> On 22 Jun 98, FreyGuy wrote re: (idm) CD scratch removal > > > tooth paste > > Whooo.... thanks for taking the plunge and trying it out. I have now > polished TEEX1, disc 2 with Colgate blue minty gel :-) and also > dotted the printed side with metallic silver marker pen. It's drying > out at the moment before being test-driven. The last 4 tracks don't > play - and it's the Sabres of Paradise one I'd like restored most. > > Holding thumbs in anticipation..... > > I > *
Do let me know. Let's hope the new sex appeal of the breath-freshened plates doesn't result in any undue friction between them so as to cause more scratches. Then again, if they start reproducing, it may indeed be an interesting venture. Homegrown collaborations. A whole new thread could shoot up over the ethics of breeding cds, which -if any - artist should be getting royalties and how many generations one would have to wait before one could ethically burn copies. And then there would be the resurgence (in a different vein) of the old "music to mate by" thread...music which mates well with other music. *Dating* services, "protection" - gender issues (how do you tell a male cd from a female?), geez the imagination runs. jeff jeff -- dancing/about/architechture "...with wandering steps and slow..." ICQ904008
1998-06-23 23:16FreyGuyFYI, here's what I did, exactly: I had 2 discs that were bad, but the worst scratched one
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Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:16:00 -0500
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FYI, here's what I did, exactly: I had 2 discs that were bad, but the worst scratched one wouldn't play the last 4 tracks without either skipping into a loop or simply skipping back and forth at several second intervals (the other only had 1 track damaged). The scratches were evident and quite deep (I was afraid that they had been deep enough to damage the data layer). Caution: Only do this if you have problems playing the disc... do not attempt if they are simply cosmetic because tooth paste *can* worsen the situation in that case. 1. Place the CD, data side up, on a flat surface for stability. I placed a small dab of Colgate Platinum "Mildmint" whitening fluoride toothpaste (no, I don't own Colgate stock :-) directly on the scratches (I have, for some reason, 3 different kinds of toothpaste in the house?). It is an opaque-white toothpaste. Use non-baking soda toothpaste (baking soda is too abrasive for our purposes)...the gel might not be abrasive enough. I'm no toothpaste expert though... I'm just telling you what I tried... Gel might work with more repetition. (I believe there exists a fine balance). 2. I used a small bit of paper towel, and covered my index finger with it for precision; no extra pieces making the toothpaste spread too much. The key is to use something soft for your buffing cloth, like a smooth cotton tshirt for example (in fact, I believe the cotton T would be gentler than a paper towel.. but its what I had handy). Gently, using your fingertip, "buff" the surface of the scratches while trying to keep the toothpaste on only the affected area of the disc. This is to minimize the problems that you would cause to the non-affected areas. Do this softly but persistently, patience may be required. 3. Then, I washed it under luke-warm water to get the paste off. Examined the disc closely to see how the scratches were coming along. 4. I decided that they needed another go, so I repeated steps 1,2,3. 5. The scratches are still quite visible, but I could tell a noticeable difference in their "appearance." They just "looked" not-as-deep as before. Also, note that you will see a slight "dulling" of the surface of the CD where you were buffing due to the nature of the toothpaste's abrasives (this is why the term "gently" is necessary)... you could easily dull the clear coating enough to skew the laser so that it wouldn't play that area at all. However, a little dull won't hurt anything, I've seen some pretty sad looking CDs play (as I'm sure we all have). So, after rinsing it clean and drying it thoroughly for the last time, I tried it out in the deck... and the previously unlistenable songs played without one skip. I was quite surprised, to be honest. You're results may vary, but Irene, you may want to give it another try, maybe with a white toothpaste (remember, non-baking soda). I believe that its necessary to take your time and to keep much attention to detail during the process... if its overdone, it can worsen the situation; which, in my case, it couldn't get worse.. the songs wouldn't play, which is why I decided to attempt this in the first place... last resort. If its underdone, it will have no effect... but its better to "under-do" it and do repeated trials, that to ruin it altogether on the first try. While doing the buffing, keep in mind how the disc is constructed. Simply stated, its a piece of plastic coated with a metallic, reflective surface, then encoded with the musical signal. Then a protective clear coating is put on top of that. This coating must remain clear enough for the laser to pass through, within error-correcting limits. Plus, you shouldn't buff so hard/deep that you get into the data layer of the disc, which will definitely ruin the whole show. The goal is to buff enough of the clear layer off around the scratched area so to eliminate the effects of the scratch (laser skewing) without making the clearcoat opaque. The idea is to "smooth out" the scratches This method will not fix all scratches due to the severity of some scratching (sometimes the scratch gets into the data layer, but it worked for me twice now, who knows what my luck will be in the future. Patience and Good luck =;-) !Kev! =-=-=-=-=- FreyGuy <Everyday is Freyday> Network/Notes Administrator NMB Technologies ICQ:4784088 "Like the generation of the revolutionary dead, we have a destiny to create." -Alvin Toffler =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Irene McC wrote:
quoted 9 lines On 23 Jun 98, jif wrote re: Re: (idm) CD scratch removal - than:> On 23 Jun 98, jif wrote re: Re: (idm) CD scratch removal - than: > > > do you have to use gel, or is paste just as good? > > Nyeeaaagh, the gel didn't work. Maybe I ought to have used white > paste? > > At least the bits that played before *still* play, so it's no worse > than I started out with - but it's surely absolutely unimproved...
1998-06-23 02:59A. MukerjeeMy mother works At Colgate! There is diatamecous earth in it. Thats what is the mild abras
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My mother works At Colgate! There is diatamecous earth in it. Thats what is the mild abrasive.