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Ok. the eternal 33/45/neither? question on a few old rephlex things: kinesthesia - volume 1 cylob - industrial folk songs thats it. thanks. Shane

quoted 1 line kinesthesia - volume 1

>kinesthesia - volume 1

sounds 'right' at 45. -eric --- eric sherman szale@doubtful.com doubtful productions www.doubtful.com wkdu 91.7fm philadelphia transmitting ambient/idm thursdays midnight-6am

quoted 1 line Ok. the eternal 33/45/neither? question on a few old rephlex things:

> Ok. the eternal 33/45/neither? question on a few old rephlex things:

quoted 1 line kinesthesia - volume 1

> kinesthesia - volume 1

45rpm, IMO.

quoted 1 line cylob - industrial folk songs

> cylob - industrial folk songs

33rpm, IMHO. See ya, gb. -- /TheW i http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/lwtcdi/all/3cachsur.htm f o L D o dlr WTC "Don't surf the Internet, do it the cheap way surf someone elses cache!"

At 18:55 23-02-98 -0500, you wrote:

quoted 6 lines Ok. the eternal 33/45/neither? question on a few old rephlex things:

> Ok. the eternal 33/45/neither? question on a few old rephlex things: > >kinesthesia - volume 1 >cylob - industrial folk songs > >thats it. thanks.

same question about: funkstoerung - breakart (musik aus strom 2.09) ~peter / / f r a m e o f t w i s t mailto:pu@dds.nl http://come.to/twr

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quoted 18 lines From: peter cozijn (frame/pu) <pu@dds.nl>

> From: peter cozijn (frame/pu) <pu@dds.nl> > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (idm) some old records speeds? > Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 1:32 PM > > At 18:55 23-02-98 -0500, you wrote: > > Ok. the eternal 33/45/neither? question on a few old rephlex things: > > > >kinesthesia - volume 1 > >cylob - industrial folk songs > > > >thats it. thanks. > same question about: > > funkstoerung - breakart (musik aus strom 2.09) > > ~peter >

stuart from 4th world told me a while back that all of the MAS stuff is played at 45 except the esterman, which you can figure out yourself because there's about 3 or 4 tracks per side as opposed to 2 tracks on the funkstorung 12"s. -kiya np:max tundra-children at play whooweee! 12 minute tracks never sounded so good...

At 21:58 24-02-98 UT, you wrote:

quoted 3 lines Later, Somebody else wrote:

>Later, Somebody else wrote: >>same question about: >>funkstoerung - breakart (musik aus strom 2.09)

From my limited experience as a DJ I'd have to say (as a rule of thumb) <..>

quoted 2 lines then I would surmise that they had this kind of flexibility in mind.

>then I would surmise that they had this kind of flexibility in mind. >Just my $.23

bla bla. so predictable. it's just that this record is so cool (except track b1 that is) at both speeds that i was wondering how the artist(s) meant it to be. relax please :) --- peter cozijn aka frame/twist twist underground dance music: http://come.to/twr (new address!)

quoted 1 line bla bla. so predictable.

>bla bla. so predictable.

If it is so predictable, then why ask the question?

quoted 3 lines it's just that this record is so cool (except

>it's just that this record is so cool (except >track b1 that is) at both speeds that i was wondering how the artist(s) >meant it to be.

I don't doubt that, but as an artist myself, I can tell you that most labels allow some creative license in regards to label design... if it wasn't listed, then generally the artists have PRECONCEIVED the concept that the tempo wasn't important. They may have written it at xxx bpm, but since the final manifestation of their music was going to be this medium, many people write with that final stage in mind. o0o[qiB.]o0o btw- as I'm sure you already know, a record that can sound sik at both speeds is far and few between... couple that with the fact the rpm setting wasn't listed (also something that rarely happens) and your betting against the odds that it wasn't intentional...

quoted 2 lines kinesthesia - volume 1

>> >kinesthesia - volume 1 >> >cylob - industrial folk songs

quoted 2 lines I have both. They are 33 1/3. Cylob rules! (well, by rule Kinesthesia would

>I have both. They are 33 1/3. Cylob rules! (well, by rule Kinesthesia would >as well, but I prefer Cylob).

how could anyone listen to 'Kobal' at 33 and think it was at the right speed? unreal.... <waves> np - what's the game - model 500

quoted 3 lines how could anyone listen to 'Kobal' at 33 and think it was at the right

> how could anyone listen to 'Kobal' at 33 and think it was at the right > speed? unreal.... >

yeah exactly .. I am really baffled by people's queries as to 33/45 .. Maybe it's just me , but it takes about 2 secs to work out the correct speed of any record ?

quoted 5 lines kinesthesia - volume 1

>> >kinesthesia - volume 1 >> >cylob - industrial folk songs >> > > >I have both. They are 33 1/3.

No, both Kinesthesia twelves, Volume 1 & 2 are on 45rpm. bye rob np : Kinesthesia Volume 1 on 33.3333333333333 :-)

quoted 4 lines kinesthesia - volume 1

> > > >kinesthesia - volume 1 > >cylob - industrial folk songs > >

I have both. They are 33 1/3. Cylob rules! (well, by rule Kinesthesia would as well, but I prefer Cylob). So there.

quoted 4 lines thats it. thanks.

> >thats it. thanks. > same question about: > > love:

Pedro(the six)