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Re: (idm) Miles Davis

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1997-08-07 13:33Mr. Gil (idm) Miles Davis
1997-08-09 15:48chris r graves Re: (idm) Miles Davis
1997-12-13 16:40Steve /k/./F/ Re: (idm) Miles Davis
└─ 1997-12-13 17:26Space Cadet Re: (idm) Miles Davis
1997-12-13 16:54AtL-5 (idm) Miles Davis
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└─ 1997-12-13 16:06Urchin Re: (idm) Miles Davis
└─ 1997-12-13 20:24Corey Marc Fogel Re: (idm) Miles Davis
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1997-12-14 00:24brittonjames Re: (idm) Miles Davis
1997-12-14 21:58GD Re: (idm) Miles Davis
└─ 1997-12-15 15:22Carved from a Block of Gouda Re: (idm) Miles Davis
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1997-12-15 15:32Colin Cahill Re[2]: (idm) Miles Davis
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1997-08-07 13:33Mr. GilA lot of those Miles Davis records would be great if they weren't all full of jazz. Mr. Gi
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A lot of those Miles Davis records would be great if they weren't all full of jazz. Mr. Gil gil@L0PHT.COM (L-zero-P-H-T) No authority is self-justified. Resist. Visit The Compendium of Allowable Knowledge http://WWW.L0PHT.COM/~gil/ FREE MUMIA ABU-JAMAL. END THE RACIST DEATH PENALTY.
1997-08-09 15:48chris r graves>A lot of those Miles Davis records would be great if they weren't all >full of jazz. you
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quoted 2 lines A lot of those Miles Davis records would be great if they weren't all>A lot of those Miles Davis records would be great if they weren't all >full of jazz.
you don't like jazz? ok.. but do we need the sarcasm? it is clear that many people on this list also like Miles, and i started the thread w/ a "not completely idm-related" disclaimer ;) keep in mind this is not regular jazz, just as idm is not regular techno :) and a lot of idm is funky just as this is. it has got some breakbeat-ish drums too! .... grav
1997-12-13 16:40Steve /k/./F/smokes_gpcs wrote: > > I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the >
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quoted 10 lines I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the> > I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the > > inspiration by him from a lot of idm musician, so I'm deciding to > pick up > > one of his disc. Which one should I start with? In front of the > 'Kind of > > Blues' disc, it says 'one of the most influential disc of the 20th > century' > > or something like that. So should I start with that one? > > Bitches Brew is *amazing*
yep bitches brew is great... however i think 'on the corner' is up there as well.. black satin is a 4th world classic... wah wah trumpet and tabla, with a crazy synth bass guitar line (some sort of mutator bass pedal) ...sigh... from about 1975 i think... it isnt like his really awful cheesy late seventies/early eighties stuff either. Steve /k/./F/ np : all saints... well watching them with mute on anyway
1997-12-13 17:26Space Cadettry "Charlie Parker Encores" the Savoy sessions (SJL 1107) 1944-48 recordings with MD on t
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try "Charlie Parker Encores" the Savoy sessions (SJL 1107) 1944-48 recordings with MD on trumpet and a veritable selection of Jazz greats including the awesome Max Roach on drums...stunning stuff..... BS.
quoted 20 lines I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the> >> > I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the >> > inspiration by him from a lot of idm musician, so I'm deciding to >> pick up >> > one of his disc. Which one should I start with? In front of the >> 'Kind of >> > Blues' disc, it says 'one of the most influential disc of the 20th >> century' >> > or something like that. So should I start with that one? >> >> Bitches Brew is *amazing* > >yep bitches brew is great... however i think 'on the corner' is up there > >as well.. black satin is a 4th world classic... wah wah trumpet and >tabla, >with a crazy synth bass guitar line (some sort of mutator bass pedal) >...sigh... from about 1975 i think... it isnt like his really awful >cheesy >late seventies/early eighties stuff either.
1997-12-13 16:54AtL-5I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the inspiration by him from a
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I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the inspiration by him from a lot of idm musician, so I'm deciding to pick up one of his disc. Which one should I start with? In front of the 'Kind of Blues' disc, it says 'one of the most influential disc of the 20th century' or something like that. So should I start with that one? AtL-5
1997-12-13 08:08smokes_gpcs> I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the > inspiration by him fr
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quoted 5 lines I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the> I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the > inspiration by him from a lot of idm musician, so I'm deciding to pick up > one of his disc. Which one should I start with? In front of the 'Kind of > Blues' disc, it says 'one of the most influential disc of the 20th century' > or something like that. So should I start with that one?
Bitches Brew is *amazing* Funki Porcini credits on some release, and listening to this, I imagine that many other artists must also... I have Funny Valentine (believe thats it) Live that I would consider some beautiful ambient material... highly recommend this also... Chris brap@sonic.net http://www.sonic.net/~brap/ blackdog, vvm, whitezone-l, slipdisc C.Gosselin, PO Box 8264, Santa Rosa, CA 95407
1997-12-13 16:06UrchinOn Sat, 13 Dec 1997, AtL-5 wrote: > I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this li
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quoted 9 lines I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the> I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the > inspiration by him from a lot of idm musician, so I'm deciding to pick up > one of his disc. Which one should I start with? In front of the 'Kind of > Blues' disc, it says 'one of the most influential disc of the 20th century' > or something like that. So should I start with that one? > > > AtL-5 >
Pick up "Bitches Brew". Classic jazz/fusion/electronics/weirdness at its finest. William Cordray urchin@io.com
1997-12-13 20:24Corey Marc Fogel> I have Funny Valentine (believe thats it) Live that I would consider > some beautiful am
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quoted 2 lines I have Funny Valentine (believe thats it) Live that I would consider> I have Funny Valentine (believe thats it) Live that I would consider > some beautiful ambient material... highly recommend this also...
quoted 2 lines Pick up "Bitches Brew". Classic jazz/fusion/electronics/weirdness at its> Pick up "Bitches Brew". Classic jazz/fusion/electronics/weirdness at its > finest.
while those words may very well apply, you fools sound like youre reviewing any random IDM jerk-off session.
1997-12-13 21:02brachielles@juno.com>> Pick up "Bitches Brew". Classic jazz/fusion/electronics/weirdness >>at its finest. >whi
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quoted 2 lines Pick up "Bitches Brew". Classic jazz/fusion/electronics/weirdness>> Pick up "Bitches Brew". Classic jazz/fusion/electronics/weirdness >>at its finest.
quoted 2 lines while those words may very well apply, you fools sound like youre>while those words may very well apply, you fools sound like youre >reviewing any random IDM jerk-off session.
I really love posts like this one. Not only has the writer managed to insult the music this list was created around, but also calling other list'ers "fools". How about we just kill the whole thing before it becomes a "Miles is more musically viable than IDM" debate that will rage for weeks... Where is everyone's holiday spirit? -->pointing finger at Lance and Puckered :) --brian rachielles brachielles@juno.com idm review archive, audio on kcsb, zaph records: www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/club/4980
1997-12-13 21:11Corey Marc FogelOn Sat, 13 Dec 1997 brachielles@juno.com wrote: > list'ers "fools". How about we just kill
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On Sat, 13 Dec 1997 brachielles@juno.com wrote:
quoted 2 lines list'ers "fools". How about we just kill the whole thing before it> list'ers "fools". How about we just kill the whole thing before it > becomes a "Miles is more musically viable than IDM" debate that will rage
how about the "Miles is not IDM" debate that seems potentially necessary?
1997-12-14 00:24brittonjamesI think that to enter into the world of Miles Davis *in terms of this list*, one should, w
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I think that to enter into the world of Miles Davis *in terms of this list*, one should, without a doubt, start with Bitches Brew, then work your way forewards and backwards from there. The record is THE fulcrum at the point of Miles Davis of the Future, and Miles Davis of the Past, regardless of all the other milestones (no pun intended) he took modern music through (like the Gil Evans era). You don't simply pick a Miles LP, listen to it, and move on to other things. You either learn music history (while having your head blown off) or you don't. If you don't know Miles, I can only assume that there's a whole lot else you don't know, so keep in mind that he, for all he is, is only one player in a huge game of musical development. Happy hunting! Charlie James
1997-12-14 21:58GDAtL-5 wrote: > > I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the > inspir
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quoted 6 lines I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the> > I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the > inspiration by him from a lot of idm musician, so I'm deciding to pick up > one of his disc. Which one should I start with? In front of the 'Kind of > Blues' disc, it says 'one of the most influential disc of the 20th century' > or something like that. So should I start with that one?
I'd say 'Kind of Blue' is truly a classic - all analog sounds in a more trad jazz stylee (hence less IDM-related), but well worth your while. A good second purchase after 'Bitches Brew'. If the Miles Davis stuff get you going, check out the Ornette Coleman/Pat Metheny 'Song X' collaboration, Ornette Coleman/Prime Time's 'In all Languages', or any of the releases by the group 'Earthworks' (featuring Bill Bruford). Jazz using electronic instrumentation that'll blow yer lid. GD
1997-12-15 15:22Carved from a Block of GoudaOn Sun, 14 Dec 1997, GD wrote: > AtL-5 wrote: > > > > I've heard a lot of talks about Mile
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On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, GD wrote:
quoted 16 lines AtL-5 wrote:> AtL-5 wrote: > > > > I've heard a lot of talks about Miles Davis on this list and the > > inspiration by him from a lot of idm musician, so I'm deciding to pick up > > one of his disc. Which one should I start with? In front of the 'Kind of > > Blues' disc, it says 'one of the most influential disc of the 20th century' > > or something like that. So should I start with that one? > > I'd say 'Kind of Blue' is truly a classic - all analog sounds in a more > trad jazz stylee (hence less IDM-related), but well worth your while. > A good second purchase after 'Bitches Brew'. If the Miles Davis stuff > get you going, check out the Ornette Coleman/Pat Metheny 'Song X' > collaboration, Ornette Coleman/Prime Time's 'In all Languages', or any > of the releases by the group 'Earthworks' (featuring Bill > Bruford). Jazz using electronic instrumentation that'll blow yer lid. >
Nice stuff all Longtime IDM subscribers know I periodically flog this puppy: Weather Report "Sweetnighter" -- unfortunately Sony Music has never reissued this on CD or vinyl. Superfunky jazz-rock dream team -- Joe Zawinul, Wayne Shorter, Airto Moriera, Miroslav Vitous, Eric Gravatt... Columbia EC 32210 Airto -- FINGERS (CTI SLIB177) Airto Moreira is a Brazilian percussionist who played with everyone in the 70's. "Fingers" is his debut American album. Very melodic, rhythmically dense stuff on the brazilian tip. A huge chunk of a track from this record was sampled on a recent Nuyorican Soul record. By the way, ANYTHING you see on CTI from the 70s is worth having. They always stand out because they have super glossy covers with a black border surrounding a bright color picture. Horacee Arnold "Tales of the Exonerated Flea" Columbia KC 32869 Extremely rare and out of print and my copy is rather thrashed ;-( Polyrhythmic, odd time signatures, minimoog wailing, and pre-Philip Glass minimal hypnotic loopiness. If ANYONE finds a copy of this in good condition I will pay up to $30 for it. Going further afield: Chick Corea "Light as a Feather" -- before Chick twinked out and became a scientologist, before the dreadful "Romantic Warrior" period noodle-wanking, this was the album. Also featuring Flora Purim on vocals and Airto on traps, this contains the almost unbearably dreamy "500 miles high" which is floaty and funky in turns.
1997-12-14 22:50saucer@Koeln.Netsurf.deCheck out Sun Ra, too...
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Check out Sun Ra, too...
1997-12-15 15:32Colin Cahill______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject:
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______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: (idm) Miles Davis Author: Carved from a Block of Gouda <kent@inav.net> at AWT_INTERNET_PO Date: 12/15/97 9:22 AM On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, GD wrote: Airto -- FINGERS (CTI SLIB177) Airto Moreira is a Brazilian percussionist who played with everyone in the 70's. "Fingers" is his debut American album. Very melodic, rhythmically dense stuff on the brazilian tip. Absolutely!!! I've got the vinyl & the thing smokes. By the way, ANYTHING you see on CTI from the 70s is worth having. They always stand out because they have super glossy covers with a black border surrounding a bright color picture. I agree, and on this point, try others by Airto, and also Deodato. They have a cover of Nights In White Satin (which I hate the original), and it is a beautifully moving ambient piece, nothing like the original.