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1997-10-31 22:19Giles Ward> eeewwww...why so many vocal parts on the plaid full-length? maybe next > time ed and and

From:: Giles Ward <gilesw@globalnet.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 22:19:44 -0000
Subject:: Re: (idm) plaid

quoted 5 lines eeewwww...why so many vocal parts on the plaid full-length? maybe next

> eeewwww...why so many vocal parts on the plaid full-length? maybe next > time ed and andy won't resort to using their famous friends voices. i > just don't understand, i was really enjoying the sounds on the album > until the voices kicked in. what do the rest of you who heard the album > think?

I'm quite chuffed with it.

quoted 2 lines am i alone thinking the vocals should've been left out?

> am i alone thinking the vocals should've been left out? > personally i can see past it,

really? It shouldn't bother you then. Buy a karaoke machine which masks out vocals from tracks if it really upsets you.

quoted 7 lines but i know i'd prefer the album sans

> but i know i'd prefer the album sans > bjork, nicollete and whoever else plays their bagpipes, err i believe > even andy sings a bit too. yikes, what's the world coming too? lately > i've been noticing a lot of vocal tracks being added to electronic > musicians work, who in the past mostly refrained from it, and while i > guess some people enjoy the use of singing over beats, i know i > definitely do not.

Well don't buy it then. Plaid make music for themselves, not fussy, narrow minded IDM Nazis. There's plenty of stuff without vocals on out there.

quoted 2 lines at the very least i wanna hear people do something

> at the very least i wanna hear people do something > different with the vocals

Are you suggesting the likes of Nicolette and Bjork are nothing special?

quoted 2 lines i'm still pro-instrumental, with the voice being

> i'm still pro-instrumental, with the voice being > left out.

Try taking your head out of your arse. Do guitars worry you too?

1997-10-31 23:12Greg Earle> Well don't buy it then. Plaid make music for themselves, not fussy, narrow > minded IDM

From:: Greg Earle <earle@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US>
To:: <gilesw@globalnet.co.uk>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:12:41 -0800
Subject:: (idm) Vocals and guitars (was: Re: plaid)
Reply to:: Re: (idm) plaid

quoted 2 lines Well don't buy it then. Plaid make music for themselves, not fussy, narrow

> Well don't buy it then. Plaid make music for themselves, not fussy, narrow > minded IDM Nazis. There's plenty of stuff without vocals on out there.

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quoted 1 line Try taking your head out of your arse. Do guitars worry you too?

> Try taking your head out of your arse. Do guitars worry you too?

Why does not liking vocals and/or guitars make someone a "fussy, narrow minded IDM Nazi" with their head up their arse? For example, I've heard vocal and/or guitar-based music for 30 years now. I'll well sick of it. I don't feel like I'm a fussy narrow-minded IDM Nazi with my head up my arse, quite frankly. I like a lot of different styles of electronic-based music, from Techno to Trance to Drum n' Bass to Deep House to Goa to Trip-Hop to Downtempo to ... etc. Quite enough of a palette for me, thanks. Your condescention to the previous poster is unwarranted. - Greg (Who wonders why many of the IDM Brits tend to be such a contrary lot)

1997-10-31 17:24CheOn Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Greg Earle wrote: > > Try taking your head out of your arse. Do guita

From:: Che <zeus8@synthcom.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:24:34 +0000 ()
Subject:: Re: (idm) Vocals and guitars (was: Re: plaid)
Reply to:: (idm) Vocals and guitars (was: Re: plaid)

On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Greg Earle wrote:

quoted 7 lines Try taking your head out of your arse. Do guitars worry you too?

> > Try taking your head out of your arse. Do guitars worry you too? > > Why does not liking vocals and/or guitars make someone a "fussy, narrow > minded IDM Nazi" with their head up their arse? > > For example, I've heard vocal and/or guitar-based music for 30 years now. > I'll well sick of it.

My feelings exactly! Che

1997-11-01 00:14Giles WardPreviously, on IDM: > > Try taking your head out of your arse. Do guitars worry you too? >

From:: Giles Ward <gilesw@globalnet.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:14:25 -0000
Subject:: Re: (idm) Vocals and guitars (was: Re: plaid)

Previously, on IDM:

quoted 4 lines Try taking your head out of your arse. Do guitars worry you too?

> > Try taking your head out of your arse. Do guitars worry you too? > > Why does not liking vocals and/or guitars make someone a "fussy, narrow > minded IDM Nazi" with their head up their arse?

It doesn't... but it helps.

quoted 2 lines For example, I've heard vocal and/or guitar-based music for 30 years now.

> For example, I've heard vocal and/or guitar-based music for 30 years now. > I'll well sick of it.

Don't you think you'll eventually tire of listening to purely electronic music? 90% of any genre is crap. I'm not saying I've got the world's most eclectic tastes, but moaning about a few vocal tracks on the new Plaid album is narrow minded IMHO. Some people need to expand their horizons. Setting rules on what's permissible when listening to new music is daft.

quoted 4 lines I don't feel like I'm a fussy narrow-minded IDM Nazi

> I don't feel like I'm a fussy narrow-minded IDM Nazi > with my head up my arse, quite frankly. I like a lot of different styles > of electronic-based music, from Techno to Trance to Drum n' Bass to Deep > House to Goa to Trip-Hop to Downtempo to ... etc. Quite enough of a

palette

quoted 1 line for me, thanks.

> for me, thanks.

Yes, I only eat ice-cream, but I like all the different flavours...

quoted 1 line Your condescention to the previous poster is unwarranted.

> Your condescention to the previous poster is unwarranted.

But it was very satisfying ;)

(idm) Vocals and guitars (was: Re: plaid)