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On Wednesday, 16-Oct-96, A. Mukerjee wrote [about Re: (idm) Re: MIDI/MOD trackers]:

quoted 1 line Most demos are mods?? I think not.

>Most demos are mods?? I think not.

well.. I don't see my stuff as mods, even though they are made with the tracker, because they have MIDI stuff in them. Usually I use the samples for drums, and then MIDI for everything else, because my synth can only use the same pair of effects in a song, and I usually always use distorted drumkits. but still. why doesn't CuBase/Performer/blah/blah have a tracker editor for editing? it already has a notation editor. why not a tracker one? It would make it way easier to make complex drum sequences (again, how the hell does Richard, Ae, etc. do it?) __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ www.freq-div.home.ml.org

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quoted 21 lines On Wednesday, 16-Oct-96, A. Mukerjee wrote [about Re: (idm) Re: MIDI/MOD

>On Wednesday, 16-Oct-96, A. Mukerjee wrote [about Re: (idm) Re: MIDI/MOD >trackers]: >>Most demos are mods?? I think not. > >well.. I don't see my stuff as mods, even though they are made with the >tracker, because they have MIDI stuff in them. Usually I use the samples for >drums, and then MIDI for everything else, because my synth can only use the >same pair of effects in a song, and I usually always use distorted drumkits. > >but still. why doesn't CuBase/Performer/blah/blah have a tracker editor for >editing? it already has a notation editor. why not a tracker one? It would >make it way easier to make complex drum sequences (again, how the hell does >Richard, Ae, etc. do it?) > > __ > __\ \ > / /_\ \ > \_____/ > > www.freq-div.home.ml.org >

IT does. tracker editor??? Cubase AUDio VST uses samples just like those mod players do...but with shit loads of effects processing..Declicking, hum removal.....! A. Mukerjee Vassar College "Laws are like cobwebs; where the small flies get caught but the big break ones through." - Unknown

quoted 1 line Using MOD trackers to compose music is EXTREMELY limited and

> Using MOD trackers to compose music is EXTREMELY limited and

cumbersome.

quoted 7 lines One has to make music from limited lenght samples with an extremely

> One has to make music from limited lenght samples with an extremely > limited amount of audio processing options. > Also, the amount of tracks available for MODs (at least how i remember > them back when i was a kid) was 4. I think there are 8 track mod > derivatives out though. > > I'm surprised you even compare it to Professional sequencers like

CuBase,

quoted 1 line Performer, Cakewalk. I have all of them and more and find that they are

> Performer, Cakewalk. I have all of them and more and find that they are

quoted 1 line just in a different league.

> just in a different league.

well, i am sure when you were a kid MODs had 4 channels.. this is still basically true ... but you haven't followed the mod scene at all since then.. because the 4channel & the 8-channel derivative barriers you mentioned were broken long ago.. the old screamtracker could do 16 channels, only 8-bit 64kbyte samples .. but now we have fasttracker2, which has 32 channels & 16-bit 44.1khz unlimited length samples, volume & panning envelopes, multiple samples to an instrument, many more effects than the original protracker, etc.. and impulse tracker has up to 64 channels plus some other thing that basically makes the channels unlimited ... so, really, you need to catch up on this stuff before you dismiss mod-trackers.. most of demo tape is 'mods' ... well, XM's, actually, which are a derivative .. chris graves

On Wed, 16 Oct 96 02:52:22 -0500 "A. Mukerjee" <sinewave@thethinker.com> writes:

quoted 7 lines this stuff before you dismiss mod-trackers.. most of demo tape is

> >>this stuff before you dismiss mod-trackers.. most of demo tape is >>'mods' ... well, XM's, actually, which are a derivative .. > >Most demos are mods?? I think not. > >But I see your point. :)

oops it shoulda said "most of _my_ demo tape is 'mods' ..." now it makes sense ;) chris graves

On Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:09:23 EST4EDT "GamePrg." <buh@clark.net> writes:

quoted 2 lines and impulse tracker has up to 64 channels plus some other thing that

>>and impulse tracker has up to 64 channels plus some other thing that >>basically >makes the channels unlimited ... so, really, you need to

catch up on

quoted 5 lines this stuff before you dismiss mod-trackers.. most of demo tape is

>>this stuff before you dismiss mod-trackers.. most of demo tape is >>'mods' ... well, XM's, actually, which are a derivative .. > >not only that, but you (not grav, but the one who posted before about >this) should also realise that the tracker I'm talking about is also a

midi

quoted 5 lines sequencer which the author has moved over from Amiga to PC for a

>sequencer which the author has moved over from Amiga to PC for a >reason. and that is because of the superior MIDI technology on the PC. > >so with this in mind, the PC version will obviouslly be WAY more >powerful than the amiga version. Take in mind that Fasttracker is also a

quoted 1 line program originally (and still?) written by people who have made the

>program originally (and still?) written by people who have made the

crossover

quoted 2 lines from Amiga to PC. That's why it looks so much like Protracker. And

>from Amiga to PC. That's why it looks so much like Protracker. And >Fasttracker is something that PT could never hope to be.

oh btw, the newest version FastTracker 2 (2.08) also has midi support for SB16. chris graves