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pop is a really great album, as good as their last two. the album proves that u2 arent poseurs, especially "mofo" which contains some of the best drumming techno has produced. "miami" is also quite wonderful in the drum department. they flirt with trip-hop on "please." "do you feel loved" is quite a wonderful pop song. "discoteque" is stupid, but IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE!!! most of the other songs are really pop songs, like u2 has done before with techno aspects added in, which makes for a really great sound. any of you who wont buy a u2 album because they are popular are really missing out. id say its perfect.

On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, susie creamcheese (the voice of cheese) wrote:

quoted 14 lines pop is a really great album, as good as their last two.

> > pop is a really great album, as good as their last two. > the album proves that u2 arent poseurs, especially "mofo" which contains > some of the best drumming techno has produced. > "miami" is also quite wonderful in the drum department. > they flirt with trip-hop on "please." > "do you feel loved" is quite a wonderful pop song. > "discoteque" is stupid, but IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE!!! > most of the other songs are really pop songs, like u2 has done before with > techno aspects added in, which makes for a really great sound. > any of you who wont buy a u2 album because they are popular are really > missing out. > id say its perfect. >

Sorry I have to disagree. I have been tortured by this album playing from peoeple here at work...POP...that's exactly what it is. U2 fans will love the album, but I haven't been one since Joshua Tree which didn't float my boat either after about 20 listens. Anyway I really wonder if it is U2 doing the programming, or people like FLOOD, or ALAN MOULDER, or HOWIE B. It's kind of funny how some people think U2 are great musicians, when they always seem to get into the 'next cool sound' (They've been doing that now for a few albums, and it certainly shows on POP) that we've all been listening to for a while. I can't even say the songs are bad, they're catchy just like they've always been- know why? They're a formula, and have been for a while. C'mon Bono, can't you please make some interesting music? I know you're smart enough. I think U2 is quite happy with making shallow music that is accessible and predictable. That's fine with me, I don't have to buy it... Nate Harrison Digital Magician Inc. www.digimagician.com nate@digimagician.com 313.994.7316

quoted 3 lines ..normally pop acts like Take That, New kids and Spice girls only last

> >..normally pop acts like Take That, New kids and Spice girls only last > >2-3 years if theyre lucky.... > >..how come Orbital have tortured me for ten years now?...

Yes, they are so boring. I saw them live once, and I must addmit that they sound much better live. I just stand and couldn't believe that the music that was coming out of speakers was by Orbital

quoted 1 line I can't see how Orbital could be described as a pop act before 'The

> I can't see how Orbital could be described as a pop act before 'The

Saint'.

quoted 1 line Any tracks in particular that you'd call pop (other than 'The Saint')?

> Any tracks in particular that you'd call pop (other than 'The Saint')?

The whole Snivilisation and Insides albums are pop. What is pop ?! Rob

On Thu, 16 Oct 1997 robert.merlak@ri.tel.hr wrote:

quoted 9 lines I can't see how Orbital could be described as a pop act before 'The

> > I can't see how Orbital could be described as a pop act before 'The > Saint'. > > Any tracks in particular that you'd call pop (other than 'The Saint')? > > The whole Snivilisation and Insides albums are pop. > What is pop ?! > > Rob >

Sniv and In Sides are pop? Uhm, I always thought of pop as more of the music you'd hear 3 dozen times a day on the "#1 hit music radio station" in between the various advertisemnets for euro-wannabe dance clubs and station contests... To the point of "The Saint" being considered pop.. I have to question whether this is accurate. I think "too mainstream" is what people are driving at, almost to the point of drawing up similar distaste to the repetative boringness of Daft Punk. Ugh. WHOA.. here we have it. Some girls just walked by, the same girls who play nothing but R. Kelly and Spice Girls and DMB all day long, and Petrol found their ears. Both found it necessary to stop, enter the room, and not only priase the music, but ask who it was by. "Hrm. We've never heard of Orbital" - Pop rockers. Go figure. .jeremy. .......................... jeremy j roethel (JR587) xanth@3Sheep.COM pgp key id: EB6EF2C5 "life w/o smiles sucks." ::::::::::::::::::::::::::

At 11:49 PM 10/16/97 +0100, robert.merlak@ri.tel.hr wrote:

quoted 5 lines The whole Snivilisation and Insides albums are pop.

> >The whole Snivilisation and Insides albums are pop. >What is pop ?! > >Rob

a) pop isn't necessarily a BAD thing. it's not inherently bad. b) orbital isn't pop. they may be dance music, but they're not pop. in sides has no catchy hooks or easy mind-numbing singalong choruses. get over it. they're famous now. deal with it. c) pop? dmx krew is mind numbing, bubblegum, pop bullshit. a lot of "underground" music is pop. now, i didn't mean to go off on a anti-dmx rant and some pop music can be great. i consider a lot of cylob's stuff to be "pop" music. corny, but wonderful melodies. light-hearted songs. a good amount of rephlex releases are pop. albeit, distorted and odd, but pop. and i love cylob, by the way. that wasn't a slag. i hope i made sense. i'm really tired ..... np. merzbow 'eat beat eat #1' (this, by the way, is not pop) ------------------------------------------------- wells oliver : s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu "perhaps all pleasure is relief" : w.s.b. -------------------------------------------------

Eric Frans wrote:

quoted 4 lines On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, wells wrote:

> > On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, wells wrote: > } > } a) pop isn't necessarily a BAD thing. it's not inherently bad.

you gotta realise that "pop" is a constantly mutating thing...if bochum welt was writing his stuff in the 80's with some vocalist or other he could have easily charted...come to daddy has charted in the uk at number 38 or something.....which means a LOT of people are buying it IE it's popular music..there's nothing that can be done about it once it's on the shelves...at least if it ever gets mainstream airplay it'll make a few people sit up and pay attention..or switch it off..either way it'll get a reaction....and ANY music that makes you react is fuckin smart in my books death to false metal!! :) -- peace. Brian F studio moo online http://www.source.co.uk/users/moo/moo.htm