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1997-10-13 04:16A. Mukerjee (idm) IDM suggestions
├─ 1997-10-13 03:27Chris Wicks Re: (idm) IDM suggestions
├─ 1997-10-13 03:53Ryan Richard Whitehead Re: (idm) IDM suggestions
│ └─ 1997-10-13 04:30Chris Wicks Re: (idm) IDM suggestions
├─ 1997-10-13 18:39wells Re: (idm) IDM suggestions
│ └─ 1997-10-13 19:06Random Junk Re: (idm) IDM suggestions
│ ├─ 1997-10-13 22:07Aran M. Parillo Re: (idm) IDM suggestions
│ └─ 1997-10-14 00:17mark weddle Off and Gone (was Re: (idm) IDM suggestions)
└─ 1997-10-13 19:38Joe Rice Re: (idm) IDM suggestions
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1997-10-13 04:16A. MukerjeeI have another question: I love IDM music, but It seems that some of it is too abrasive fo
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I have another question: I love IDM music, but It seems that some of it is too abrasive for me. Examples: Autechre, Aphex's Ventolin and such... For someone like me that likes intelligent music that Retains harmony and alot of synth pads, what would you all recommend? I mean is Global Communication considered intelligent? That is some Brilliant stuff. Also, Aphex twins SAW 85-92... Better yet, let me give a litst of albums i love.... Brian Eno - Amtospheres and Soundtracks - On Land - Music for Airports Black Dog - Spanners - Bytes - Parallel b12 - soma APhex Twin - SAW 85-92 - SAW II - and tracks like Polynomial C, etc.. u-Ziq - Vs. Auteurs - Lunatic Harness - Urmur Bile Trax Richard H. Kirk - Time High Fiction - Virtual State - Number Of Magic Ken Ishii - Jelly Tones Tetsu Inoue - World Reciever - Ambiant Otaku Peter Namlook - Air 1 + 2 (And loads of his other collaborations) Global Communication - 76:14 - Pentamerous Metamorphosis - Remotion KLF - Chillout Sorry, got carried away....what do you all suggest??? A. Mukerjee Vassar College "Laws are like cobwebs; where the small flies get caught but the big break ones through." - Unknown
1997-10-13 03:27Chris WicksOn Sun, 12 Oct 1997, A. Mukerjee wrote: > I have another question: > > I love IDM music, b
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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, A. Mukerjee wrote:
quoted 7 lines I have another question:> I have another question: > > I love IDM music, but It seems that some of it is too abrasive for me. > Examples: Autechre, Aphex's Ventolin and such... > > For someone like me that likes intelligent music that Retains harmony and > alot of synth pads, what would you all recommend?
Well, everyone, this is my first attempt at a post to this list. If you want something that isn't "abrasive", go for Cabaret Voltaire. A lot of their material, especially some of the later stuff, is quite non-abrasive. My personal favorite at the time is the "International Language" LP. Also, Plug's "Drum 'n' Bass for Papa" is quite good, with lots of nice, laid-back beats. Go for the Nothing records US release with the EP's on the second disc. Hope this helps! Chris Wicks cwicks@prickly.thorn.net http://prickly.thorn.net/~cwicks (bootlegs, links, and more) "this is a man who can't take any more" - jack dangers Most Recent Purchase: Meat Beat Manifesto - Peel Session np: John Coltane - Blue Train
1997-10-13 03:53Ryan Richard WhiteheadNOT NEW RELEASES, BUT THE FIRST THING THAT CAME TO MIND i'm on the abrasive side of the di
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Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:53:44 -0700 (PDT)
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NOT NEW RELEASES, BUT THE FIRST THING THAT CAME TO MIND i'm on the abrasive side of the divide between intelligent and music, so i begin to think "how can i change one's mind." a virus, a stain of contamination. of course exposure must be surruptitious. you should check out the OVAL disks if you haven't. listen to them first if possible because many people find them to be dross, a useless waste material produced in the wake of true synthesis, industrial genius. "systemisch" is available on thrill jockey. oval was the beginning of my theorizing of IDioMatic music so you will have to indulge me-- THE NON THEORY, ie a funny story. imagine this: we have a tool, say a hammer. this is the first hammer man has seen. he tries to use it to do the things that rocks used to do: smash nuts, skulls, whatever. he takes great joy in this. eventually these activities became vocations and primordial man is frowning. eventually he thinks: "these things are not part of the form of the hammer, but byproducts of its form. only by doing with the hammer what only a hammer can do will i find the joy in it." however, the hammer has little idiomatic individuallity, so caveman begins to apply this idea to other artifacts. since he plays the guitar, as all cavemen do, he exploits it idiomatically. Jimi hendrix was this caveman with an electric guitar. Derek Bailey on the acoustic. They pull the strings off the neck, they rap the body with a fist, they stick plastic between the strings, run a ridiculous wattage through it and light it on fire with an acetylene torch. this is idiomatic. ok, oval is the equivalent with a cd player. this is what cd sampling becomes when it is used idiomatically--the sample is not metaphorical or metonymic, it is not intended to take you elsewhere by telling you to "rock the funky beats" or making you think of "Let's Dance" era Bowie by dropping a Chic bassline. it is the sound of a cd skipping--literally. synth sounds and smooth washes are created out of intentionally scratched and manipulated cd's. patterns are drawn on their bottoms with felt tip pens. the sounds pause and swell, shift by. it's lush with disjunction as its parasite: only through the parasite does the host become possible. the thick banquets of synth sound are only possible through the technology which makes these disjunctions possible--even when you do not hear them they lurk. oval made me realize the fragility of the CD format, the record format in a new way: my cd's and records which are scratched produce fantastic sounds when i stop thinking about what they are supposed to sound like. does this mean i'm going to mangle all of my cd's and records...of course not, but i know what beautiful parasites they hide. rhythm is never asserted (so rarely that is), but it makes itself known through swells. these words...throbs, swells, waves of sound, oceanic, unfathomable . . . they are organic, but this is not organic music. it is the disjecta of synth music . . . it's a boundary medium, a transparent humor. the album "diskont 94" is also great. more scrapes, more experiment, definitely in their ouevre but not a repeat. they never assault your ears, rather they present that harshness in a defamiliarized way. instead of exposing you to unmitigated extremes of decible violence, they show its vulnerability to more than intrigue, but a certain transparent and quizical reverie. these are albums unlike any other albums. on record they are dirt cheap. buy these and listen to three times in a row. ryan whitehead
1997-10-13 04:30Chris WicksYour comments on OVAL has me intrigued. I've never heard of them (him? her? it?) before. W
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Your comments on OVAL has me intrigued. I've never heard of them (him? her? it?) before. What record label are the albums on? Thanks! Chris Wicks cwicks@prickly.thorn.net http://prickly.thorn.net/~cwicks (bootlegs, links, and more) "this is a man who can't take any more" - jack dangers Most Recent Purchase: Meat Beat Manifesto - Peel Session np: Einsturzende Neubauten - Strategies Against Architecture II
1997-10-13 18:39wellsAt 11:16 PM 10/12/97 -0500, A. Mukerjee wrote: >I have another question: > >I love IDM mus
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At 11:16 PM 10/12/97 -0500, A. Mukerjee wrote:
quoted 7 lines I have another question:>I have another question: > >I love IDM music, but It seems that some of it is too abrasive for me. >Examples: Autechre, Aphex's Ventolin and such... > >For someone like me that likes intelligent music that Retains harmony and >alot of synth pads, what would you all recommend?
even though you said they're to abrasive, i'd definately check out Autechre's Amber, Incunabula, and Garbage EP. some really beautiful, soothing tracks on these albums.. nothing like their newer, abrasive material. np. plug 'cut' ------------------------------------------------- wells oliver : s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu "perhaps all pleasure is relief" : w.s.b. -------------------------------------------------
1997-10-13 19:06Random Junk>For someone like me that likes intelligent music that Retains harmony and >alot of synth
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quoted 2 lines For someone like me that likes intelligent music that Retains harmony and>For someone like me that likes intelligent music that Retains harmony and >alot of synth pads, what would you all recommend?
off and gone - "everest" (harthouse) knocks orbital & the rest on their ass. -- Jon Drukman jsd@gamespot.com SpotMedia Communications ...I was an infinitely hot and dense dot...
1997-10-13 22:07Aran M. ParilloOn Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Random Junk wrote: > off and gone - "everest" (harthouse) > > knocks
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On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Random Junk wrote:
quoted 3 lines off and gone - "everest" (harthouse)> off and gone - "everest" (harthouse) > > knocks orbital & the rest on their ass.
orbital - "belfast" turns the other cheek. speaking of which, who will answer my prayers for a copy of this on vinyl, gosh I'll even deal with a disc copy, burned or real. tp
1997-10-14 00:17mark weddleAt 12:06 PM 10/13/97 -0700, Random Junk wrote: >>For someone like me that likes intelligen
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At 12:06 PM 10/13/97 -0700, Random Junk wrote:
quoted 6 lines For someone like me that likes intelligent music that Retains harmony and>>For someone like me that likes intelligent music that Retains harmony and >>alot of synth pads, what would you all recommend? > >off and gone - "everest" (harthouse) > >knocks orbital & the rest on their ass.
Oh, yes! Most definitely ... I must second this recommendation! Thick, textured, swirling atmospheres and big chunky beats ... Go to: http://www.bsg-inc.com/offngone/ for the particulars and some ra's ... markw@southwind.net
1997-10-13 19:38Joe RiceAt 4:16 AM -0000 10/13/97, A. Mukerjee wrote: >For someone like me that likes intelligent
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At 4:16 AM -0000 10/13/97, A. Mukerjee wrote:
quoted 2 lines For someone like me that likes intelligent music that Retains harmony and>For someone like me that likes intelligent music that Retains harmony and >alot of synth pads, what would you all recommend?
Pentatonik - Anthology. Rei Harakami on Sublime comes to mind as well. Joe oninmyhead: Chris Bowden w/4-Hero "Lullaby" - best single of the year.