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(idm) Spymania Artwork.

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1997-07-30 01:13Gonzi (Fresh) (idm) robbery.
├─ 1997-07-30 04:58maker of all Re: (idm) robbery.
├─ 1997-07-30 11:14GamePrg. Re: (idm) robbery.
├─ 1997-07-30 14:52GamePrg. Re: (idm) robbery.
│ └─ 1997-07-30 15:05GamePrg. Re: (idm) robbery
└─ 1997-07-30 20:48Ben Coffer Re: (idm) robbery.
1997-07-30 11:17.... (idm) Spymania Artwork.
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1997-07-30 01:13Gonzi (Fresh)Why some people deciede to do things is absoltuely beyond me. I received an e-mail today f
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Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:13:59 -0700
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Why some people deciede to do things is absoltuely beyond me. I received an e-mail today from Multsanta letting me know that someone had ripped off my discography from the Squarepusher page and placed it on his own site. Not a big deal, there are 3 other sites that are using my discography formatted differently and with proper credit and linkage. However, this guy has gone totally over the fucking edge. Not only has he ripped off my HTML exactly and all my gaphics but he has given me no credit for my work and instead credited it to himself! He doesn't even include one mention of me or a link to my page. Here is the offending site so you can see for yourself: http://www.islandia.is/~junglizt/pusher.html Notice any similarities? Needless to say I was pretty pissed off about him ripping off my stuff. I sent him this letter today:
quoted 16 lines Do you realize how totally uncool it is to steal things that don't> Do you realize how totally uncool it is to steal things that don't > belong to you? Do you have any idea how many hours it took to make that > site? If you want to link to me, fine, if you want to include my > discography but change around the HTML so you can tell that it is not my > page, fine, but do not mirror my page and change my HTML around and > worst of all give yourself credit for something you had no part in: > > > > Squarepusher - My page about Squarepusher > > > > The above is fucking totally ridiculous. You don't even say the page is > by me or give me a credit. > > Please remove my page from your site immediately. >
And this is the reply I just recieved....
quoted 11 lines hahaha> hahaha > > i said , info stolen by junglizt , also , i changed it so it´s not yours , > plus it´s not © by you and you have no authorization to write something down > about squarepusher , did you ask him ? , anyhows doesn´t matter , it´s the > net , you don´t own anything on the net , don´t you get it yet ? > > shit.............. > > anyways , stop buggin and start living , peace............ >
Needless to say, I am even fucking more pissed off at this idiot now. If anyone can see how he changed it so it's not mine please let me know. The only thing I can see that he changed is the link to e-mail me no longer e-mails me but e-mails him! And it gets even worse! If you follow the links to and other the other sections from the toolbar it says that he hasn't copied those yet and god knows what the fuck he's going to do there. So can someone on the list plese tell me what I can do to stop this guy? Perhaps some of the people who are into the page can write him e-mail and let him know how fucked up it is to steal someone elses page. His e-mail is: junglizt@islandia.is Any other comments, help or advice would be appreciated... _____ / ,-,_) /,_) (/ ReSH Live & Direct from the G-Spot, Orange County, California, USA http://www1.linkonline.net/fresh/
1997-07-30 04:58maker of all>So can someone on the list plese tell me what I can do to stop this guy? >Perhaps some of
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Tue, 29 Jul 1997 23:58:09 -0500
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quoted 6 lines So can someone on the list plese tell me what I can do to stop this guy?>So can someone on the list plese tell me what I can do to stop this guy? >Perhaps some of the people who are into the page can write him e-mail >and let him know how fucked up it is to steal someone elses page. His >e-mail is: junglizt@islandia.is > >Any other comments, help or advice would be appreciated...
I'll tell you one thing. Junglizt writes some of the worst fucking jungle mods available to man. Search the archives at cdrom.com for his stuff. It's terrible. Makes my ears bleed feces. I've worked hard, long fucking hours trying to complete the Luke Vibert discography + would be steaming mad at dirt if someone ripped it off me. As an anti-theft method, there's a hideously untrue bit of information on the LV discography I placed there last year. Add this to 'losing yer girlfriend' and 'eating ramen noodles' to the list of The Perils of Trainspotting. g.
1997-07-30 11:14GamePrg.On Wednesday, 30-Jul-97, Gonzi \(Fresh\) wrote [about (idm) robbery.]: >> i said , info st
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Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:14:07 EST4EDT
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On Wednesday, 30-Jul-97, Gonzi \(Fresh\) wrote [about (idm) robbery.]:
quoted 1 line i said , info stolen by junglizt , also , i changed it so it´s not yours ,>> i said , info stolen by junglizt , also , i changed it so it´s not yours ,
one thing you can try is ask him to say that he stole it from you.. since he's already got that on there.
quoted 1 line plus it´s not © by you and you have no authorization to write something>> plus it´s not © by you and you have no authorization to write something
down
quoted 2 lines about squarepusher , did you ask him ? , anyhows doesn´t matter , it´s the>> about squarepusher , did you ask him ? , anyhows doesn´t matter , it´s the >> net , you don´t own anything on the net , don´t you get it yet ?
heh I always put a (C) notice on all my pages, and the ppl don't know it's not (C) (well, they do now).. that is fully 100% legal when it comes to stuff that doesn't really matter like modules, etc.. You should probably put on your Sqrepshr page some (C)'s from Rephlex etc. to keep yourself out of trouble, and say only the HTML and gfx are (C) by you (if you indeed made them)
quoted 3 lines anyone can see how he changed it so it's not mine please let me know.>anyone can see how he changed it so it's not mine please let me know. >The only thing I can see that he changed is the link to e-mail me no >longer e-mails me but e-mails him! And it gets even worse! If you follow
he also put that disc in the upperleft corner? I don't remember if yours had it? not sure.. but this doesn't make it his creation :D
quoted 1 line So can someone on the list plese tell me what I can do to stop this guy?>So can someone on the list plese tell me what I can do to stop this guy?
there's nothing you can do, besides mailbombing him or send him a mailinglist bomb (auto-subscribe him to shitloads of mailinglists, hah but it won't work for any of the Hyperreal lists, coz it requires it to be confirmed =) but that isn't the most nice thing to do, but you can do it anyway if you feel you must :D
quoted 3 lines Perhaps some of the people who are into the page can write him e-mail>Perhaps some of the people who are into the page can write him e-mail >and let him know how fucked up it is to steal someone elses page. His >e-mail is: junglizt@islandia.is
ok
quoted 1 line Any other comments, help or advice would be appreciated...>Any other comments, help or advice would be appreciated...
hm.. you could actually go through all the shit and red tape and stuff and get your pages copyrighted =) __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ www.freq-div.home.ml.org
1997-07-30 14:52GamePrg.On Wednesday, 30-Jul-97, Gonzi \(Fresh\) wrote [about (idm) robbery.]: >Why some people de
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Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:52:31 EST4EDT
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On Wednesday, 30-Jul-97, Gonzi \(Fresh\) wrote [about (idm) robbery.]:
quoted 1 line Why some people deciede to do things is absoltuely beyond me. I received>Why some people deciede to do things is absoltuely beyond me. I received
quoted 2 lines Notice any similarities? Needless to say I was pretty pissed off about>Notice any similarities? Needless to say I was pretty pissed off about >him ripping off my stuff. I sent him this letter today:
huh he hangs out in #jungle in IRC!! :DDDDD Why not go there and talk to him live? I'm doing it right now :D __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ www.freq-div.home.ml.org
1997-07-30 15:05GamePrg.On Wednesday, 30-Jul-97, GamePrg. wrote [about Re: (idm) robbery.]: >huh he hangs out in #
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Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:05:34 EST4EDT
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On Wednesday, 30-Jul-97, GamePrg. wrote [about Re: (idm) robbery.]:
quoted 2 lines huh he hangs out in #jungle in IRC!! :DDDDD>huh he hangs out in #jungle in IRC!! :DDDDD >Why not go there and talk to him live? I'm doing it right now :D
that would be on IRCNet, ie: irc.funet.fi, irc.pspt.fi and irc.stealth.net here's a direct quote from someone who knows Junglizt, I won't give out the name because this guy has nothing to do with it: "as far as i know he stole some sounds too earlier so that's not a new thing for him i suppose." __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ www.freq-div.home.ml.org
1997-07-30 20:48Ben CofferIn message <33DE9556.35D60F5B@linkonline.net>, "Gonzi (Fresh)" <fresh@linkonline.net> writ
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In message <33DE9556.35D60F5B@linkonline.net>, "Gonzi (Fresh)" <fresh@linkonline.net> writes
quoted 1 line So can someone on the list plese tell me what I can do to stop this guy?>So can someone on the list plese tell me what I can do to stop this guy?
One word, copyright. If you can prove it was your intellectual property first then that's it for him. And guess what, as your witnesses you've got everyone on this list that's been to your page. (including me) -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/
1997-07-30 11:17....Re: http://www.islandia.is/~junglizt/pusher.html Hi, I contacted Gonzi about a year ago on
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Wed, 30 Jul 1997 12:17:29 +0100
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Re: http://www.islandia.is/~junglizt/pusher.html Hi, I contacted Gonzi about a year ago on behalf of the Spymania Label to give him respect for the hard work he had done, (the only complete Squarepusher discography available at the time, subsequently copied and adequately credited many times since), by stealing Gonzis work you are also stealing Spymanias hard work. Spymania gladly gave Gonzi permission to use the artwork of the Squarepusher and Duke of Harringay sleeves for his website, you were never given permission to use them, i wanted to make sure that you were aware of this position while you choose to continue to display Spymania artwork. Youve made a fool of yourself in front of the people you are trying to impress, all of the IDM mailing list is aware of what youve done, which means that the Warp, Rephlex and Spymania labels (and Tom Jenkinson) are aware . Steve Taylor /k/./F/