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Two things: 1) Is there a video compilation of Aphex you guys have put together in the past? If so, how do I go about getting a copy? If not, I think this would be a great idea. I'm sure someone out there has really hi-quality video equipment. And I'm sure with our combined manpower we can muscle up all the Aphex Videos ever. Let me know what you think...and what you've got. 2) How about putting together a tape filled with all of Aphex's toughest to get recordings, like Powerpill, the Joyrex stuff, and many of the remixes that I don't want to buy the whole crappy CD just for his remix or two. I would be more than willing to design a nice cover for it and all...let me know what you think...and what you've got. Post advice to me about these projects to the list. Post specific listings of what you've got (videos, rare cd's, remix cd's, good video dubbing equipment) to me personally. I don't want to clutter up the list. :)

1997-06-20 09:21g.On Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:00:18 -0700, you wrote: >2) How about putting together a tape fille

From:: g. <greg@warp-net.com>
To:: Tim Gill <lovecrft@fishnet.net>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:21:04 GMT
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: (idm) Aphex Stuff

On Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:00:18 -0700, you wrote:

quoted 5 lines 2) How about putting together a tape filled with all of Aphex's toughest to

>2) How about putting together a tape filled with all of Aphex's toughest to >get recordings, like Powerpill, the Joyrex stuff, and many of the remixes >that I don't want to buy the whole crappy CD just for his remix or two. I >would be more than willing to design a nice cover for it and all...let me >know what you think...and what you've got.

wow you must have loads of money. i reckon it's cost about GBP£15,000 to license those tracks for a compilation. i wouldn't recommend mastering it to tape though, most people like CDs nowadays. g.

1997-06-20 17:35The Rare GuyOn Friday, 20-Jun-97, g. wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]: >wow you must have loads of

From:: The Rare Guy <buh@clark.net>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:35:01 EST4EDT
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff + Warp(tm) design costs
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

On Friday, 20-Jun-97, g. wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]:

quoted 3 lines wow you must have loads of money. i reckon it's cost about GBP£15,000

>wow you must have loads of money. i reckon it's cost about GBP£15,000 >to license those tracks for a compilation. i wouldn't recommend >mastering it to tape though, most people like CDs nowadays.

heh master it in 33.3kHz :) hm, speaking of money.. I wonder, how much did you guys pay to have WarpNet designed? If tDR charged you what most web-design companies charge I reckon it cost a bloody fortune, or a couple of them :) with all the pages you have, every warp ep/lp page, and then Java is expensive as a bitch too.. __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ , m7=

1997-06-20 21:37The Rare GuyOn Thursday, 19-Jun-97, Tim Gill wrote [about (idm) Aphex Stuff]: >1) Is there a video com

From:: The Rare Guy <buh@clark.net>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 21:37:20 EST4EDT
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: (idm) Aphex Stuff

On Thursday, 19-Jun-97, Tim Gill wrote [about (idm) Aphex Stuff]:

quoted 5 lines 1) Is there a video compilation of Aphex you guys have put together in the

>1) Is there a video compilation of Aphex you guys have put together in the >past? If so, how do I go about getting a copy? If not, I think this would be >a great idea. I'm sure someone out there has really hi-quality video >equipment. And I'm sure with our combined manpower we can muscle up all the >Aphex Videos ever. Let me know what you think...and what you've got.

the only thing I can tell you is to muscle up all the videos for yourself, and find out if ppl who have them will make you a copy of them. if anyone does have any and would make me a copy of them if I send a tape, let me know ! (privately of coz..) __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ , m7=

1997-06-20 08:13Gonzi (Fresh)> 1) Is there a video compilation of Aphex you guys have put together in the > past? > you

From:: Gonzi (Fresh) <fresh@linkonline.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 01:13:50 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

quoted 3 lines 1) Is there a video compilation of Aphex you guys have put together in the

> 1) Is there a video compilation of Aphex you guys have put together in the > past? >

you want to put a compilation together for 3 videos?

quoted 6 lines 2) How about putting together a tape filled with all of Aphex's toughest to

> 2) How about putting together a tape filled with all of Aphex's toughest to > get recordings, like Powerpill, the Joyrex stuff, and many of the remixes > that I don't want to buy the whole crappy CD just for his remix or two. I > would be more than willing to design a nice cover for it and all...let me > know what you think...and what you've got. >

Bad spotter! Bad spotter! It's called tape trading, don't turn it into a business (i shared your misguided notions when i first got started as well). I get mail from people every week offering me money to tape them stuff and i turn em all down, it ain't even about all dat. Just look for the stuff and find it like all the rest of us did. in the end its much more rewarding. The second rule of trainspotting: everything turns up eventually. _____ / ,-,_) /,_) (/ RESH Live & Direct from the G-Spot, Orange County, California, USA http://www1.linkonline.net/fresh/fresh.htm

1997-06-20 17:37The Rare GuyOn Friday, 20-Jun-97, Gonzi $Fresh$ wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]: > Bad spotter!

From:: The Rare Guy <buh@clark.net>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:37:32 EST4EDT
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

On Friday, 20-Jun-97, Gonzi $Fresh$ wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]:

quoted 7 lines Bad spotter! Bad spotter! It's called tape trading, don't turn it into

> Bad spotter! Bad spotter! It's called tape trading, don't turn it into >a business (i shared your misguided notions when i first got started as >well). I get mail from people every week offering me money to tape them >stuff and i turn em all down, it ain't even about all dat. Just look for >the stuff and find it like all the rest of us did. in the end its much >more rewarding. The second rule of trainspotting: everything turns up >eventually.

sheeit.. someone asked if I could copy them stuff, they'd do anything, I told them I'd copy them HAB1 and HAB2 for $5 each :DD if they want to pay.. __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ , m7=

1997-06-20 09:45Tim GillAt 01:13 AM 6/20/97 -0700, Gonzi $Fresh$ wrote: >> 1) Is there a video compilation of Ap

From:: Tim Gill <lovecrft@fishnet.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 02:45:20 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

At 01:13 AM 6/20/97 -0700, Gonzi $Fresh$ wrote:

quoted 4 lines 1) Is there a video compilation of Aphex you guys have put together in the

>> 1) Is there a video compilation of Aphex you guys have put together in the >> past? >> >you want to put a compilation together for 3 videos?

Hmmm, according to your page (I think( it seemed like there were quite a bit more than 3)...Ah, well, we could just make it an IDM video collection...

quoted 13 lines 2) How about putting together a tape filled with all of Aphex's toughest to

>> 2) How about putting together a tape filled with all of Aphex's toughest to >> get recordings, like Powerpill, the Joyrex stuff, and many of the remixes >> that I don't want to buy the whole crappy CD just for his remix or two. I >> would be more than willing to design a nice cover for it and all...let me >> know what you think...and what you've got. >> > Bad spotter! Bad spotter! It's called tape trading, don't turn it into >a business (i shared your misguided notions when i first got started as >well). I get mail from people every week offering me money to tape them >stuff and i turn em all down, it ain't even about all dat. Just look for >the stuff and find it like all the rest of us did. in the end its much >more rewarding. The second rule of trainspotting: everything turns up >eventually.

Well, I'm sorry if you misunderstood me. I would not charge for this. I'd put it all together. Then people would just send me two tapes. One to tape on, and one to cover shipping and handling...I'm helping out the collective. I'm here for you... :)

1997-06-20 10:24Ben CofferIn message <2.2.32.19970620094520.0068a87c@mail.fishnet.net>, Tim Gill <lovecrft@fishnet.n

From:: Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:24:34 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

In message <2.2.32.19970620094520.0068a87c@mail.fishnet.net>, Tim Gill <lovecrft@fishnet.net> writes

quoted 5 lines Well, I'm sorry if you misunderstood me. I would not charge for this. I'd

>Well, I'm sorry if you misunderstood me. I would not charge for this. I'd >put it all together. Then people would just send me two tapes. One to tape >on, and one to cover shipping and handling...I'm helping out the collective. >I'm here for you... :) >

And i'm not having my Joyrex's (that I spent an extortionate amount of money on finding) recorded onto tape...i'm sure other Joyrex owners feel the same way. Favourite RDJ track: 2nd track on J5!! Absolutely amazing... -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

1997-06-20 13:43Aaron MichelsonOn 20 Jun 1997 11:24 +0100 (-0400), Ben Coffer wrote to me: > And i'm not having my Joyrex

From:: Aaron Michelson <aaron@defiant.on-it.net>
To:: Intelligent Dense Mush <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: 20 Jun 97 18:43:04 +0500
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

On 20 Jun 1997 11:24 +0100 (-0400), Ben Coffer wrote to me:

quoted 3 lines And i'm not having my Joyrex's (that I spent an extortionate amount of

> And i'm not having my Joyrex's (that I spent an extortionate amount of > money on finding) recorded onto tape...i'm sure other Joyrex owners > feel the same way.

quoted 1 line Favourite RDJ track: 2nd track on J5!! Absolutely amazing...

> Favourite RDJ track: 2nd track on J5!! Absolutely amazing...

What a snobby attitude! Frankly, my testicles don't double in size when I drop £40 on a rare record, and then boast about it on the internet.... onnow: repeats (a13) Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong" For reviews, interviews, art & trash http://www.on-it.net/~aaron/ aaron@defiant.on-it.net

1997-06-21 12:34Ben CofferIn message <minimail_33ab2398_b0a6b@amichel.io.org>, Aaron Michelson <aaron@defiant.on-it.

From:: Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 13:34:59 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

In message <minimail_33ab2398_b0a6b@amichel.io.org>, Aaron Michelson <aaron@defiant.on-it.net> writes

quoted 11 lines On 20 Jun 1997 11:24 +0100 (-0400), Ben Coffer wrote to me:

>On 20 Jun 1997 11:24 +0100 (-0400), Ben Coffer wrote to me: > >> And i'm not having my Joyrex's (that I spent an extortionate amount of >> money on finding) recorded onto tape...i'm sure other Joyrex owners >> feel the same way. > >> Favourite RDJ track: 2nd track on J5!! Absolutely amazing... > >What a snobby attitude! Frankly, my testicles don't double in size when >I drop 40 on a rare record, and then boast about it on the internet.... >

Really? Coz I find that mine do. -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

1997-06-21 00:55CheOn Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Ben Coffer wrote: > And i'm not having my Joyrex's (that I spent an e

From:: Che <zeus8@synthcom.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 00:55:45 +0000 ()
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Ben Coffer wrote:

quoted 3 lines And i'm not having my Joyrex's (that I spent an extortionate amount of

> And i'm not having my Joyrex's (that I spent an extortionate amount of > money on finding) recorded onto tape...i'm sure other Joyrex owners > feel the same way.

Just as I suspected...with trainspotters, it has nothing to do with the music, it has _everything_ to do with the exclusivity. Fucking lamers Che

1997-06-21 18:48The Rare GuyOn Saturday, 21-Jun-97, Che wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]: >> And i'm not having my

From:: The Rare Guy <buh@clark.net>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:48:31 EST4EDT
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

On Saturday, 21-Jun-97, Che wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]:

quoted 3 lines And i'm not having my Joyrex's (that I spent an extortionate amount of

>> And i'm not having my Joyrex's (that I spent an extortionate amount of >> money on finding) recorded onto tape...i'm sure other Joyrex owners >> feel the same way.

quoted 2 lines Just as I suspected...with trainspotters, it has nothing to do with the

>Just as I suspected...with trainspotters, it has nothing to do with the >music, it has _everything_ to do with the exclusivity.

Perhaps it's just that we lamers have lives and can't be bothered to sit down and tape all the rare afx stuff for anyone who wants to send in a tape. i would tape them, but a tape trade, not a freebee :) Imagine if we starting giving freebees of everything to everyone.. People would be sending us 14 tapes and expecting us to have them coppied over the weekend. __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ , m7=

1997-06-22 14:23Ben CofferIn message <yam7111.1580.126320936@clark.net>, The Rare Guy <buh@clark.net> writes >Perhap

From:: Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 15:23:22 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

In message <yam7111.1580.126320936@clark.net>, The Rare Guy <buh@clark.net> writes

quoted 5 lines Perhaps it's just that we lamers have lives and can't be bothered to sit

>Perhaps it's just that we lamers have lives and can't be bothered to sit >down and tape all the rare afx stuff for anyone who wants to send in a tape. > >i would tape them, but a tape trade, not a freebee :) Imagine if we starting >giving freebees of everything to everyone..

Precisely. Absolutely right. -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

1997-06-20 09:48Tim GillAt 09:21 AM 6/20/97 GMT, g. wrote: >On Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:00:18 -0700, you wrote: > >>2)

From:: Tim Gill <lovecrft@fishnet.net>
To:: <greg@warp-net.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 02:48:56 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

At 09:21 AM 6/20/97 GMT, g. wrote:

quoted 13 lines On Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:00:18 -0700, you wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:00:18 -0700, you wrote: > >>2) How about putting together a tape filled with all of Aphex's toughest to >>get recordings, like Powerpill, the Joyrex stuff, and many of the remixes >>that I don't want to buy the whole crappy CD just for his remix or two. I >>would be more than willing to design a nice cover for it and all...let me >>know what you think...and what you've got. > >wow you must have loads of money. i reckon it's cost about GBP£15,000 >to license those tracks for a compilation. i wouldn't recommend >mastering it to tape though, most people like CDs nowadays. > >g.

Errrr...I think I was giving the wrong impression here...it would just be a thing we could throw together to get the harder to get Aphex stuff to people without millions of dollars to get the German only release of powerpill and stuff like that. As I said in a mail I just sent...I was not planning on charging or anything. There's no mastering involved...it would just be dub...I did it on the Radiohead Mailing List and saved my self a hell of alot of time and money..... Am I still a good spotter? Hehe.

1997-06-20 10:13Tacograph OverloadAt 01:13 1997-06-20 -0700, you wrote: >> 1) Is there a video compilation of Aphex you guys

From:: Tacograph Overload <frankie@gargamel.com>
To:: <fresh@linkonline.net>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:13:03 +0200
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

At 01:13 1997-06-20 -0700, you wrote:

quoted 4 lines 1) Is there a video compilation of Aphex you guys have put together in the

>> 1) Is there a video compilation of Aphex you guys have put together in the >> past? >> >you want to put a compilation together for 3 videos?

On Ventolin Donkey Rhubarb Ziggy Change Stakker Ageispolis Shotkeya (7th path) That Stakker movie ...and I'm sure that I'm missing out. Maybe you should buy yerself an abacus or something... Mathematically yours, Fe. - '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' = ) - =-= = '''''''''' - - http://gargamel.com/plod -->-->--> -/ - - - ] '''''''' - - mailto:frankie@gargamel.com '''''' = -.. =-= = '''''''''' -

1997-06-20 21:57The Rare GuyOn Friday, 20-Jun-97, Tacograph Overload wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]: >Shotkeya (7

From:: The Rare Guy <buh@clark.net>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 21:57:36 EST4EDT
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

On Friday, 20-Jun-97, Tacograph Overload wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]:

quoted 1 line Shotkeya (7th path)

>Shotkeya (7th path)

Schottkey 7th Path

quoted 1 line Mathematically yours,

>Mathematically yours,

literarily yours, __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ , m7=

1997-06-21 02:48Chris.Hilker>On Friday, 20-Jun-97, Tacograph Overload wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]: >>Shotkeya

From:: Chris.Hilker <cspot@hyperreal.com>
To:: Ironic Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:48:38 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

quoted 4 lines On Friday, 20-Jun-97, Tacograph Overload wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]:

>On Friday, 20-Jun-97, Tacograph Overload wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]: >>Shotkeya (7th path) > >Schottkey 7th Path

Shotkeya is the video's title. C. -- C.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.com) "We don't relax, we Rolex"

1997-06-20 10:47IAIN FORFAR> Bad spotter! Bad spotter! It's called tape trading, don't turn it into >a business (i sh

From:: IAIN FORFAR <iain@onwe.co.za>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 97 12:47:00 +0200
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

quoted 7 lines Bad spotter! Bad spotter! It's called tape trading, don't turn it into

Gonzi, that's pretty easy for those of you who live in...erm, the first world. :) I feel like a spotter coz I managed to get me a _Feed Me Wierd Things_ CD. I can look and look and look, and it still takes *ages* to get anything locally, if at all - And don't even talk about vinyl! [Whine mode == OFF] I know I know, mail order. Speaking of which, any news on WarpMart yet, g? And any recommendations of other places? And 1 other things - Is Sam and Valley as interesting as it sounds? Iain

1997-06-20 11:46g.On Fri, 20 Jun 97 12:47:00 +0200, you wrote: > >I know I know, mail order. Speaking of whi

From:: g. <greg@warp-net.com>
To:: IAIN FORFAR <iain@onwe.co.za>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:46:51 GMT
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

On Fri, 20 Jun 97 12:47:00 +0200, you wrote:

quoted 3 lines I know I know, mail order. Speaking of which, any news on WarpMart yet,

> >I know I know, mail order. Speaking of which, any news on WarpMart yet, >g?

next week.

quoted 1 line And 1 other things - Is Sam and Valley as interesting as it sounds?

>And 1 other things - Is Sam and Valley as interesting as it sounds?

you play it and you go urm, that's nice and bizarre. and then you never play it again(*) :) g. (*) except at parties to piss people off.

1997-06-20 13:37Ben CofferIn message <8DA22FF.001E042E28.uuout@onwe.co.za>, IAIN FORFAR <iain@onwe.co.za> writes > >

From:: Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:37:07 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

In message <8DA22FF.001E042E28.uuout@onwe.co.za>, IAIN FORFAR <iain@onwe.co.za> writes

quoted 14 lines Bad spotter! Bad spotter! It's called tape trading, don't turn it into

> >> Bad spotter! Bad spotter! It's called tape trading, don't turn it into >>a business (i shared your misguided notions when i first got started as >>well). I get mail from people every week offering me money to tape them >>stuff and i turn em all down, it ain't even about all dat. Just look for >>the stuff and find it like all the rest of us did. in the end its much >>more rewarding. The second rule of trainspotting: everything turns up >>eventually. > >Gonzi, that's pretty easy for those of you who live in...erm, the first >world. :) I feel like a spotter coz I managed to get me a _Feed Me >Wierd Things_ CD. I can look and look and look, and it still takes >*ages* to get anything locally, if at all - And don't even talk about >vinyl!

Well, I get virtually none of my hard to find stuff locally....nearly all from the internet. -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

1997-06-20 22:12The Rare GuyOn Friday, 20-Jun-97, Ben Coffer wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]: >Well, I get virtual

From:: The Rare Guy <buh@clark.net>
To:: Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk>
Cc:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 22:12:01 EST4EDT
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

On Friday, 20-Jun-97, Ben Coffer wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]:

quoted 2 lines Well, I get virtually none of my hard to find stuff locally....nearly

>Well, I get virtually none of my hard to find stuff locally....nearly >all from the internet.

list of afx/ui vinyls I've gotten and where: selected ambient works 85-92: modern music (locally) saw2 vinyl: internet trade universal indicator green: modern music (locally) universal indicatro red: modern music (locally) quoth (test pressing): modern music (locally) xylem tube: modern.. classics: modern.. seefeel: time to find me (w/ afx remixes): modern.. donkey rhubarb, ventolin and ventolin remixes: modern.. powerpill pacman black vinyl: modern.. I guess I'm just lucky, nearly all the rare stuff I have I bought within a 2 mile radius of my home ;) I found a copy of I care because you do there also, but I missed out on it. __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ , m7=

1997-06-21 12:40Ben CofferIn message <yam7110.95.126320936@clark.net>, The Rare Guy <buh@clark.net> writes >On Frida

From:: Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 13:40:56 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

In message <yam7110.95.126320936@clark.net>, The Rare Guy <buh@clark.net> writes

quoted 19 lines On Friday, 20-Jun-97, Ben Coffer wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]:

>On Friday, 20-Jun-97, Ben Coffer wrote [about Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff]: >>Well, I get virtually none of my hard to find stuff locally....nearly >>all from the internet. > >list of afx/ui vinyls I've gotten and where: > >selected ambient works 85-92: modern music (locally) >saw2 vinyl: internet trade >universal indicator green: modern music (locally) >universal indicatro red: modern music (locally) >quoth (test pressing): modern music (locally) >xylem tube: modern.. >classics: modern.. >seefeel: time to find me (w/ afx remixes): modern.. >donkey rhubarb, ventolin and ventolin remixes: modern.. >powerpill pacman black vinyl: modern.. > >I guess I'm just lucky, nearly all the rare stuff I have I bought within >a 2 mile radius of my home ;)

Yeah but I'm talking about rare stuff! :) Almost everything you've written there i also found in record stores. Tower Records, HMV etc... -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

1997-06-20 17:15MultSanta@aol.comIn a message dated 97-06-20 06:54:50 EDT, fresh@linkonline.net (Gonzi (Fresh)) writes: <<

From:: <MultSanta@aol.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:15:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

In a message dated 97-06-20 06:54:50 EDT, fresh@linkonline.net (Gonzi (Fresh)) writes: << The second rule of trainspotting: everything turns up eventually. >> first rule??

1997-06-20 20:22galaxey@earthlink.netAimee Merritt wrote: > > Not really. I record mine for anyone who asks. Maybe that's becau

From:: 0 <galaxey@earthlink.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:22:58 +0000
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

Aimee Merritt wrote:

quoted 6 lines Not really. I record mine for anyone who asks. Maybe that's because I

> > Not really. I record mine for anyone who asks. Maybe that's because I > bought them when they were released so I only paid $7.99 or so a > piece- nothing extortionate about that. Come on people!!! Didn't you learn > your lessons on public television? Sharing is good! ;) > -Aimee

Well I have the JOYREX's and I'd share too as long as what I am getting in return is worth my time making tapes!!!!! I mean heck all four/five JOYREX's (spotter i'm not) is at least an hour of music. See you........ 0

1997-06-20 23:08Brock SuterAaron Michelson wrote: > What a snobby attitude! Frankly, my testicles don't double in siz

From:: Brock Suter <Brock@alchemyfx.com>
To:: Aaron Michelson <aaron@defiant.on-it.net>
Cc:: Intelligent Dense Mush <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:08:07 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

Aaron Michelson wrote:

quoted 3 lines What a snobby attitude! Frankly, my testicles don't double in size

> What a snobby attitude! Frankly, my testicles don't double in size > when I drop £40 on a rare record, and then boast about it on the > internet....

That's a good thing Aaron. Because if they did, Mr. T would have to eat them. Peace out, brock. np: V/A - Breakbeat Science

1997-06-21 04:46Tim Gill>selected ambient works 85-92: modern music (locally) >saw2 vinyl: internet trade >univers

From:: Tim Gill <lovecrft@fishnet.net>
To:: <buh@clark.net>, Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk>
Cc:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 21:46:30 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

quoted 10 lines selected ambient works 85-92: modern music (locally)

>selected ambient works 85-92: modern music (locally) >saw2 vinyl: internet trade >universal indicator green: modern music (locally) >universal indicatro red: modern music (locally) >quoth (test pressing): modern music (locally) >xylem tube: modern.. >classics: modern.. >seefeel: time to find me (w/ afx remixes): modern.. >donkey rhubarb, ventolin and ventolin remixes: modern.. >powerpill pacman black vinyl: modern..

Looking at this list, I see you've got a lot of stuff on my wantlist...please consider helping out the compilation.

1997-06-21 17:23Tacograph OverloadBen, At 11:24 1997-06-20 +0100, Ben Coffer wrote: >And i'm not having my Joyrex's (that I

From:: Tacograph Overload <frankie@gargamel.com>
To:: Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:23:32 +0200
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

Ben, At 11:24 1997-06-20 +0100, Ben Coffer wrote:

quoted 3 lines And i'm not having my Joyrex's (that I spent an extortionate amount of

>And i'm not having my Joyrex's (that I spent an extortionate amount of >money on finding) recorded onto tape...i'm sure other Joyrex owners >feel the same way.

Fuck it. What kinda dumb-ass attitude is this? If you payed such a huge amount on em it's just fucking best to share it with people. Sharing, y' know. Ring a bell? £250 is totally silly. Just because you have the money to pay these idiotic amounts for some 12"s (10" too I guess) doesn't mean everybody else has. I realize this is how things work, but we could at least try to prevent it as far as possible. Just for the record, I'll gladly dub the four J's I own for free. Send me a tape or something and I'll just record it. No postage, nothing.

quoted 1 line Favourite RDJ track: 2nd track on J5!! Absolutely amazing...

>Favourite RDJ track: 2nd track on J5!! Absolutely amazing...

Nah, I like Q-Chastic best. Completely wicked and just my style. (we call it sarcasm) Socialistically yours, Fe. - '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' = ) - =-= = '''''''''' - - http://gargamel.com/plod -->-->--> -/ - - - ] '''''''' - - mailto:frankie@gargamel.com '''''' = -.. =-= = '''''''''' -

1997-06-22 14:19Ben CofferOk, Seems like no-one will leave me alone after my comments about the Joyrex's.....so I'd

From:: Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 15:19:30 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

Ok, Seems like no-one will leave me alone after my comments about the Joyrex's.....so I'd like to go on record as apologising, sort of...but i will say this....Yes, I probably would tape them for someone but only if that someone was gonna give me something in return.... (i'm also sorry i mentioned the amount i spent on them, but it was *my* HARD-EARNED cash that i used which i can spend however i please, it just happens to be that i'm a big aphex fan). -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

1997-06-22 14:21Ben CofferIn message <3.0.32.19970621185800.00741b80@gargamel.com>, Tacograph Overload <frankie@garg

From:: Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 15:21:16 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

In message <3.0.32.19970621185800.00741b80@gargamel.com>, Tacograph Overload <frankie@gargamel.com> writes

quoted 6 lines Ben,

>Ben, > >>Favourite RDJ track: 2nd track on J5!! Absolutely amazing... > >Nah, I like Q-Chastic best. Completely wicked and just my style. (we call >it sarcasm)

Ok, so I misplaced my favourite RDJ comment which should've gone in a different post entirely unconnected with the other post i sent, it wasn't meant to be sarcastic, it really *is* my favourite track of the moment... -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

1997-06-22 02:03Tim Gill>Just for the record, I'll gladly dub the four J's I own for free. Send me a >tape or some

From:: Tim Gill <lovecrft@fishnet.net>
To:: Tacograph Overload <frankie@gargamel.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:03:25 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

quoted 2 lines Just for the record, I'll gladly dub the four J's I own for free. Send me a

>Just for the record, I'll gladly dub the four J's I own for free. Send me a >tape or something and I'll just record it. No postage, nothing.

Cool deal, just send me your address please, and I'll send you the tape.

1997-06-22 18:45Analog000@aol.comIn a message dated 97-06-22 11:30:07 EDT, you write: << >i would tape them, but a tape tra

From:: <Analog000@aol.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:45:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

In a message dated 97-06-22 11:30:07 EDT, you write: << >i would tape them, but a tape trade, not a freebee :) Imagine if we starting >giving freebees of everything to everyone.. Precisely. Absolutely right. >> Well I think you could dub some tapes for people, just put a limit on it. Do so many tapes, but first talk to the people and only do however many tapes you want to. I would be glad to make tapes for people if I had rare aphex like that, It's the least I could do considering alot of them won't ever get the chance to hear it. You could just make tapes at your own pace, you don't have to open a factory of tape dubbing. but I think Sharing is a virtue, don't be stingy with your rare aphex, yes you DID spend your "hard earned money" but remember, when you send dub tapes it's not the real thing, it's just a dub. It seems to me that you feel a little special about having your Joyrex album and you don't want to give up that status, listen, it's not a big deal, share the music with everyone. Just because you have that rare album doesn't make you a bigger fan.

1997-06-23 23:53Aca> From: Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk> > Ok, > Seems like no-one will leave me al

From:: Aca <rigsby@dial.pipex.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 23:53:46 +0000
Subject:: Re: (idm) Aphex Stuff

quoted 9 lines From: Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk>

> From: Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk> > Ok, > Seems like no-one will leave me alone after my comments about the > Joyrex's.....so I'd like to go on record as apologising, sort of...but > i will say this....Yes, I probably would tape them for someone but > only if that someone was gonna give me something in return.... > (i'm also sorry i mentioned the amount i spent on them, but it was > *my* HARD-EARNED cash that i used which i can spend however i please, > it just happens to be that i'm a big aphex fan).

I can't see what the problem is here. Being the schizophrenic person I am, I subscribe to both theories (i.e. "I must own the original, at whatever price" & "It's the music that matters - I don't care if it's a dub on tape") - and the deciding factor for me is usually how highly I rate the artist/music involved. Surely it's all up to the individual - some people like to collect records (and hence pay high prices), whereas others just like the music - whatever format it's on. I can't really argue with either stance. I remember something Edwyn Collins once said when asked if he was shocked that his early Orange Juice 7" singles ("Blueboy", in particular) were changing hands for upwards of 50 (UK Pounds) each. He said something like "...and why shouldn't it ? - it's a work of art, after all !!...". I can see his point. You shouldn't expect to get an original Picasso for just a few dollars, but by all means buy a cheap print of the same painting if you prefer, or can't afford the real thing. Let's all be friends :) Aca now spinning: Bedouin Ascent - "Music For Particles"

1997-06-24 14:12NDMult wrote: >I think it's safe to say that most of the people on this list have donated >m

From:: ND <abardell@tinet.ch>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Tue, 24 Jun 97 16:12:53 +0200
Subject:: (idm) Aphex stuff

Mult wrote:

quoted 14 lines I think it's safe to say that most of the people on this list have donated

>I think it's safe to say that most of the people on this list have donated >more than enough to both warp and richard and by passing one bootleg tape >around to twenty or so people would cause either richard or warp to go broke. > Although I do agree that the tape, *in theory*, should only contain out of >print stuff, but I doubt most of the people who are getting this tape are >doing it for On, Donkey Rhubarb, or Quoth, but rather the out of print stuff >that is no longer making Warp, Rephlex, or Richard any money at the moment. > Instead this money is going to record store owners and greedy trainspotters >(keyword here: GREEDY) who want to make a profit (none of which results in >the company or the artist in getting additional money) off of something that >only cost them 7 bucks to get new, and turning it around and selling it for >75 used. > >just my 2 cents.

Yesssssss, how true this is! Especially if it's out of print. It would be nice to see that the intelligence in IDM also implies not participating in the rat race fuelled by (artfificially created?) scarcity of goods, of whatever nature they are. Just think of all the records one can buy at "normal" price (mmm, is it ever normal?) with the amount of money spent on rarities. I agree, the object in itself is fascinating, but when the fascination comes from its social scarcity it's a drag. There must be at least one place where people don't try to get advantage out of each other (and I'm not talking about labels here, it's store owners and other anal personalities...). Why not IDM? ND ============================================ ^ < abardell@tinet.ch > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ PLUS visit our NEW NEW NEW homepage ^ ^ ^ ^ http://www.tinet.ch/table ^ ^ ^ ^ and join theTable in their mission ^ ^ to make the world look and sound better! ^ ============================================