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1997-05-21 15:42Warren LaphamHi everyone. Just thought I'd share the last paragraph of a 'Pop Review' of the Chemical B

From:: Warren Lapham <laps@monkey.org>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:42:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: (idm) New York Times

Hi everyone. Just thought I'd share the last paragraph of a 'Pop Review' of the Chemical Brothers in today's New York Times (page B7) that I found rather interesting considering its source: "For those who still need evidence that electronic dance music is infiltrating mainstream America, the show provided some when shirtless concertgoers formed a mosh pit for slam-dancing, which is not typically welcome at raves or dance clubs. They provided one of the clearest indications of a music's trendiness: when people who are unlikely to understand or respect a band attend its concerts anyway and like it." Now, I'm not too big on getting knocked around at a show when I'm more interested in the watching and listening, but it's nice to see that someone in the mainstream press acknowledges that this current mainstream fascination with electronica may be a fad, at the end of which we'll all be able to crawl back into our own little corner of the underground. Or not. I guess I just liked the cynical tone. -w. -- Warren Lapham (ceremony-owner@monkey.org) laps@monkey.org (laps@umich.edu)

1997-05-21 16:50Chris FaheyThis is not very cynical at all. It's positively gleeful. What Neil Strauss is saying is:

From:: Chris Fahey <chris@wanderlust.com>
To:: 'IDM' <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:50:46 -0400
Subject:: RE: (idm) New York Times

This is not very cynical at all. It's positively gleeful. What Neil Strauss is saying is: "Isn't it great that fans of such different musical genres can be found at the same concert? This must prove that the fad has really caught on." He's saying that now that the chems have gotten slamdancers to have a good time at their show that they have finally made it big and that they are here to stay. I think when people in the media say "trendy" they don't mean it in a negative way at all, nor do they mean it to mean "temporary". When he says trendy he means "successful", that's all. Besides, the guy loved the show. And if you read yesterday's times, he loved Michael Jackson's new album, too. It sounds cool to me cuz all the songs are about drugs. In one, entitled Morphine, he chants "demerol, demerol". It's true! Jacko's getting heavy, huh? -CF

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> -----Original Message----- > From: Warren Lapham > > ** NYTIMES: > "For those who still need evidence that electronic dance music is > infiltrating mainstream America, the show provided some when shirtless > concertgoers formed a mosh pit for slam-dancing, which is not > typically > welcome at raves or dance clubs. They provided one of the clearest > indications of a music's trendiness: when people who are unlikely to > understand or respect a band attend its concerts anyway and like it." > > ** Warren Lapham: > it's nice to see that > someone in the mainstream press acknowledges that this current > mainstream > fascination with electronica may be a fad, at the end of which we'll > all > be able to crawl back into our own little corner of the underground. > Or > not. I guess I just liked the cynical tone. >

1997-05-21 17:30Pete AshdownChris Fahey said once upon a time: >He's saying that now that the chems have >gotten slamd

From:: Pete Ashdown <pashdown@xmission.com>
To:: Intelligent Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:30:50 -0600 (MDT)
Subject:: RE: (idm) New York Times

Chris Fahey said once upon a time:

quoted 3 lines He's saying that now that the chems have

>He's saying that now that the chems have >gotten slamdancers to have a good time at their show that they have >finally made it big and that they are here to stay.

I don't know about New York, but in the mid-eighties when people started slamming to "hardcore" bands like Psychedelic Furs, Echo & The Bunnymen, and R.E.M., it didn't mean that they'd gained mass acceptance. What it really meant is that about a dozen fools had come to the show.

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