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On 20-Mar-97, RUSTYDH@goshen.edu scribbled something about (idm) RE:AFX Big Day Out Set:

quoted 3 lines I am also interested in getting this tape. In fact, does anyone have any

>I am also interested in getting this tape. In fact, does anyone have any >other >Aphex live tapes that they could copy for me?

me too! I think one guy posted said he had the first 30 mins, and be willing to trade it for other copies, etc. or something like that. anyhow, I posted this a long time ago, but still I'm wondering.. Does anyone know if AFX's set at the Blech party in NY this past January was taped? -- __ __\ \ Aurafix aka Hillie / PHD ^ DAMONES / /_\ \ http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html \_____/ >> buh@clark.net >> < > .. >> .<>> >> > , m7= Do re mi fa so la ti .. Oh let's see if we can make it easier..

I am also interested in getting this tape. In fact, does anyone have any other Aphex live tapes that they could copy for me?

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> -----Original Message----- > From: idm-owner@hyperreal.com [SMTP:idm-owner@hyperreal.com] On Behalf > Of > pHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLAN > GEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHL > ANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEfizzog > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 1997 11:35 AM > To: idm@hyperreal.com > Subject: Re: (idm) RE:AFX Big Day Out Set > > c o p y r i g h t

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> c o p y r i g h t

What? You don't believe information wants to be free? ;) ekku the maintainer of pHinnWeb - everything u ever wanted to know about Finnish techno scene but were too afraid of the reindeer trerra@uta.fi | http://www.uta.fi/~trerra | http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb

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Who gives a E R C I E N I G P Ste....

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Tape trading has zero impact on record sales. If we want to talk sample clearance (another copyright issue), what about Willy Wonka/The Sound of Music/Tampax Commercials/Porn Films ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- "i love the smell of new carpet. it makes me dizzy. just like when you fall in love." -- Mike Dvorkin Home Page, featuring Reagan on Black Velvet, the EMP Compilation CD, samples of my music, etc http://soli.inav.net/~kent/ Kent Williams kent@inav.net CADSI 2651 Crosspark Road Coralville IA 52241 (319) 338 6053 (home) (319) 626 6700 x 219 (work) (319) 626 3488 (fax)

On 20-Mar-97, Kent Williams scribbled something about Re: (idm) RE:AFX Big Day Out Set:

quoted 2 lines If we want to talk sample clearance (another copyright issue), what about

>If we want to talk sample clearance (another copyright issue), what about >Willy Wonka/The Sound of Music/_Tampax_ Commercials/Porn Films ...

hahhaa ;) i think tapes are shit anyway, basically.. we came from vinyls, to tape, to cd.. I think vinyl is better sound quality than tape any day, obviously I guess, but still tapes should be the least thing to have an impact on record sales, DAT's would have a bigger impact, but not by much. I would only have something copied for me on tape if it's hard to find or so. -- __ __\ \ Aurafix aka Hillie / PHD ^ DAMONES / /_\ \ http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html \_____/ >> buh@clark.net >> < > .. >> .<>> >> > , m7= Do re mi fa so la ti .. Oh let's see if we can make it easier..

On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, The Rare Guy wrote:

quoted 5 lines i think tapes are shit anyway, basically.. we came from vinyls, to tape, to

> i think tapes are shit anyway, basically.. we came from vinyls, to tape, to > cd.. I think vinyl is better sound quality than tape any day, obviously I > guess, but still tapes should be the least thing to have an impact on record > sales, DAT's would have a bigger impact, but not by much. I would only have > something copied for me on tape if it's hard to find or so.

Ironically, thanks to the Audio Home Recording Act, owners of DATs and other digital recording devices who make digital copies of copyrighted material for private use are exempted from copyright infringement liability (in return for this, record labels get royalties for every DAT or other digital recording device) sold. Do plain old analog recording devices (with arguably shittier fidelity) get this protection? Nope. wierd innit? khannan suntharam kxs28972@bayou.uh.edu

On 20-Mar-97, khannan suntharam scribbled something about Re: (idm) RE:AFX Big Day Out Set:

quoted 1 line On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, The Rare Guy wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, The Rare Guy wrote:

quoted 1 line i think tapes are shit anyway, basically.. we came from vinyls, to tape, to

>> i think tapes are shit anyway, basically.. we came from vinyls, to tape, to

quoted 7 lines Ironically, thanks to the Audio Home Recording Act, owners of DATs and

>Ironically, thanks to the Audio Home Recording Act, owners of DATs and >other digital recording devices who make digital copies of copyrighted >material for private use are exempted from copyright infringement >liability (in return for this, record labels get royalties for every DAT >or other digital recording device) sold. >Do plain old analog recording devices (with arguably shittier fidelity) >get this protection? Nope. wierd innit?

hm.. I just thought it was one of those things that no one enforces cos who cares if you copy the latest CD for a friend? anyway.. just to make things absolutely clear, I said normal casette tapes are shit, not DAT or HiFi VHS tapes, like some people I know use for music purposes. -- __ __\ \ Aurafix aka Hillie / PHD ^ DAMONES / /_\ \ http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html \_____/ >> buh@clark.net >> < > .. >> .<>> >> > , m7= Do re mi fa so la ti .. Oh let's see if we can make it easier..

quoted 7 lines Ironically, thanks to the Audio Home Recording Act, owners of DATs and

>>Ironically, thanks to the Audio Home Recording Act, owners of DATs and >>other digital recording devices who make digital copies of copyrighted >>material for private use are exempted from copyright infringement >>liability (in return for this, record labels get royalties for every DAT >>or other digital recording device) sold. >>Do plain old analog recording devices (with arguably shittier fidelity) >>get this protection? Nope. wierd innit?

false. united states code, title 17, chapter 10, subchapter d, section 1008: § 1008. Prohibition on certain infringement actions No action may be brought under this title alleging infringement of copyright based on the manufacture, importation, or distribution of a digital audio recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an analog recording device, or an analog recording medium, or based on the noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device or medium for making digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings.

quoted 2 lines hm.. I just thought it was one of those things that no one enforces cos who

>hm.. I just thought it was one of those things that no one enforces cos who >cares if you copy the latest CD for a friend?

it's not enforceable because it's totally legal! as long as you don't sell it. Jon Drukman jsd@gamespot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- System Administrator SpotMedia Communications

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> > >c o p y r i g h t > > >c o p u l a t e > > Tape trading has zero impact on record sales.

Depends on the audience. For trainspotters like us, it may even mildly boost them or at worst have no effect. For more mainstream audiences it most definitely does have an adverse effect - for them a song's a sociocultural experience whose medium is unimportant ("who cares if it's on tape or CD, I can play it in the car, right?") Ashok

Hi,

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> > c o p y r i g h t > > What? You don't believe information wants to be free? ;) > > ekku

I agree! It would be diffrent if it was the masters to a new album you were copying, but a tape of a radio broadcast or a live gig hurts no-one, and in some cases is a benefit. Shit, look at the number of boots that have later had proper releases because they were so good. If it was me, I'd encourage it. Get everyone to bring a rec-walkman to the gig...spread the word. :) L8r, Eric.

At 16.35 97-03-20 +0000, you wrote:

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ah, fuck off. join the K O P Y R I G H T L I B E R A T I O N F R O N T ! you can't make money on everything (luckily enough), if that's what you are trying to do. - franz johan marino enmark ´´´´´´´´ = ) - =-= = ´´´´´´´´´´ - - http://gargamel.com/plod -->-->--> -/ - - - ] ´´´´´´´´ - - eggshell@ts.umu.se ´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´ = -.. =-= = ´´´´´´´´´´ -

In a message dated 20/03/97 16:29:29, you write:

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Haha, tell that to Harold Williamson! You left out the comma - it should read 'copy, right?' Cheerio! What's on the sound burger?? 'Contaminated By Technique' - me

quoted 7 lines Ironically, thanks to the Audio Home Recording Act, owners of DATs and

> Ironically, thanks to the Audio Home Recording Act, owners of DATs and > other digital recording devices who make digital copies of copyrighted > material for private use are exempted from copyright infringement > liability (in return for this, record labels get royalties for every DAT > or other digital recording device) sold. > Do plain old analog recording devices (with arguably shittier fidelity) > get this protection? Nope.

If you're referring to protection from being sued under US copyright law, owners of analog hardware are indeed protected from such suits under the AHRA. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists

i h a t e c o p y r i g h t a n d c o p y r i g h t h a t e s me.

why do some of you feel it is neccessary to get your hands on every that has to do with rdj.

On 21-Mar-97, cmac@txdirect.net scribbled something about Re: (idm) RE:AFX Big Day Out Set:

quoted 2 lines why do some of you feel it is neccessary to get your hands on every that

>why do some of you feel it is neccessary to get your hands on every that >has to do with rdj.

we're all a bunch of smelly nerds who have nothing better to do on our spare time. -- __ __\ \ Aurafix aka Hillie / PHD ^ DAMONES / /_\ \ http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html \_____/ >> buh@clark.net >> < > .. >> .<>> >> > , m7= Do re mi fa so la ti .. Oh let's see if we can make it easier..

cmac@txdirect.net wrote:

quoted 2 lines why do some of you feel it is neccessary to get your hands on

> why do some of you feel it is neccessary to get your hands on > every that has to do with rdj.

Pretty simple really - because we like what he does. 'nuff said! No analysis, no discussion. -- ____ ______ ____\ Q-Force mailto:qforce@graviton.levels.unisa.edu.au \_____ _____\ Visit http://graviton.levels.unisa.edu.au/~qforce/ \____