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Re: (idm) Re: idm V1 #985

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1997-02-23 21:35Chris Tweney (idm) Re: idm V1 #985
1997-02-24 05:14wrecktangle (idm) Re: idm V1 #985
1997-02-24 05:34wrecktangle (idm) Re: idm V1 #985
├─ 1997-02-24 10:26g. Re: (idm) Re: idm V1 #985
│ └─ 1997-02-24 12:10Mikko Karvonen Re: (idm) Re: idm V1 #985
└─ 1997-02-24 17:41Hillie Re: (idm) Re: idm V1 #985
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1997-02-23 21:35Chris Tweney>> Of David.Seruyange@bubbs.biola.edu >> I guess this works for Spooky, who I think someti
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quoted 3 lines Of David.Seruyange@bubbs.biola.edu>> Of David.Seruyange@bubbs.biola.edu >> I guess this works for Spooky, who I think sometimes wants to weed the >> weak out in the beginning by playing really challenging shite... [snip]
This happened when Spooky played in Boston a couple of months ago. Unfortunately, whoever booked the evening scheduled him in between a pair of very formulaic guitar rock/industrial acts; Spooky assaulted the audience with extremely painful shotgun-blast speedsnare and high-end feedback. After about an hour, the soundman turned him off (the club had a schedule to keep). It was a bummer, but there was a lot of intellectual fat to chew on in what he did play. Luckily, Spooky's returning to Boston in late April as a headliner, so hopefully the venue will make for a more friendly atmosphere (once he's done "weeding out"). As far as what Chris Fahey said about Spooky wanting to sound "more intelligent than you", I'd agree, though I think there's a place for that. Compare: Would you learn anything from a teacher who didn't (at least provisionally, or temporarily) seem to be more intelligent than you? And the overdetermination of the musical technique through his use of postmodern criticism, while it can get irritating (and Spooky's grasp of the philosophical tenets seems shaky), shows to me that you can't really analyze the music without also treating the literature; pomo crit is a sufficiently large part of Spooky's intellectual landscape that it would be a disservice to avoid the issue. Of course, a strong dollop of pretentiousness goes along with the crit, and unavoidably so, I believe. chris tweney cat@pobox.com -- Boston low-end theory: drum 'n' bass, illbient, dub, abstract breaks, and more at http://www.tiac.net/users/ctweney/lowend
1997-02-24 05:14wrecktangleOn Sun, 23 Feb 1997, CHUD wrote: ]released Warp/Ae material domestically for the US? I hav
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On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, CHUD wrote: ]released Warp/Ae material domestically for the US? I have yet to see ]'Envane' surface and mailordered it... I had planned on advance It's out there in full force...any half-decent store has it.... .------------------------------------------------------------------------. | nm: nickworthington | ml: nworth1@umbc.edu | "Gott wuerfelt nicht!" ae | |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~nworth1 | [.sig_gn] @ 17:00:00 EST on 12.21.96 | `------------------------------------------------------------------------'
1997-02-24 05:34wrecktangleOn Sat, 22 Feb 1997, flying turnip boy wrote: ]i dunno... the thing i don't like about the
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On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, flying turnip boy wrote: ]i dunno... the thing i don't like about the tri repetae US version is that they ]didn't include all of the artwork from garbage and anvil vapre. surely that ]wouldn't have been too difficult. same with the aphex twin, i'm sure (dunno, ]cause i went out and bought girl/boy ep and rdj asap when they were released in ]the UK). yes the value is better, but artwork is just as important sometimes. ]that's why i'd much rather own the real thing than a copy, you know? besides, ]i'd rather not wait three months until the US decides it's okay to release ]something. luckily astralwerks doesn't do that and i'm proud to have my US copy the real thing? i can hardly imagine booth & brown or rdj considering the uk releases of their material to be the "real" ones because of differences in artwork or date of release...and here's my modest approximation of the delegation of time put in by the artists towards the different components of the album: music 98% artwork 2%. Which one do you think they'd like you to pay the most attention to? Artwork isn't worthless or pointless, but in reality it's just the thin candy shell around something infinitely more complex. .------------------------------------------------------------------------. | nm: nickworthington | ml: nworth1@umbc.edu | "Gott wuerfelt nicht!" ae | |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~nworth1 | [.sig_gn] @ 17:00:00 EST on 12.21.96 | `------------------------------------------------------------------------'
1997-02-24 10:26g.On Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:34:03 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, flying turnip b
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On Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:34:03 -0500 (EST), you wrote:
quoted 15 lines On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, flying turnip boy wrote:>On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, flying turnip boy wrote: >]i dunno... the thing i don't like about the tri repetae US version is that they >]didn't include all of the artwork from garbage and anvil vapre. surely that >]wouldn't have been too difficult. same with the aphex twin, i'm sure (dunno, >]cause i went out and bought girl/boy ep and rdj asap when they were released in >]the UK). yes the value is better, but artwork is just as important sometimes. >]that's why i'd much rather own the real thing than a copy, you know? besides, >]i'd rather not wait three months until the US decides it's okay to release >]something. luckily astralwerks doesn't do that and i'm proud to have my US copy > >the real thing? i can hardly imagine booth & brown or rdj considering the >uk releases of their material to be the "real" ones because of differences >in artwork or date of release...and here's my modest approximation of the >delegation of time put in by the artists towards the different >components of the album: music 98% artwork 2%.
if only that were the case. g. g. www.warp-net.com
1997-02-24 12:10Mikko KarvonenOn 24-Feb-97, g. wrote: >On Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:34:03 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >>On Sat, 22
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On 24-Feb-97, g. wrote:
quoted 1 line On Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:34:03 -0500 (EST), you wrote:>On Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:34:03 -0500 (EST), you wrote:
quoted 6 lines On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, flying turnip boy wrote:>>On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, flying turnip boy wrote: >>the real thing? i can hardly imagine booth & brown or rdj considering the >>uk releases of their material to be the "real" ones because of differences >>in artwork or date of release...and here's my modest approximation of the >>delegation of time put in by the artists towards the different >>components of the album: music 98% artwork 2%.
quoted 1 line if only that were the case.>if only that were the case.
Yup.. At least Richard "the computer nerd" James has lots to do with the artwork in his records. He has been doing the covers for I care because you do, Mike & Rich and Richard D. James Album, at least. -- .Mikko
1997-02-24 17:41HillieOn 24-Feb-97, wrecktangle scribbled something about (idm) Re: idm V1 #985: >the real thing
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On 24-Feb-97, wrecktangle scribbled something about (idm) Re: idm V1 #985:
quoted 8 lines the real thing? i can hardly imagine booth & brown or rdj considering the>the real thing? i can hardly imagine booth & brown or rdj considering the >uk releases of their material to be the "real" ones because of differences >in artwork or date of release...and here's my modest approximation of the >delegation of time put in by the artists towards the different >components of the album: music 98% artwork 2%. Which one do you think >they'd like you to pay the most attention to? Artwork isn't worthless or >pointless, but in reality it's just the thin candy shell around something >infinitely more complex.
Yeah but also Richard or Sean/Rob would probably not have it, if the label decided to just throw the artwork they wanted on the sleeve, and just put some shit there. -- __ __\ \ Aurafix aka Hillie / PHD ^ DAMONES / /_\ \ http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html \_____/ >> buh@clark.net >> < > .. >> .<>> >> > , m7= Do re mi fa so la ti .. Oh let's see if we can make it easier..