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quoted 6 lines the warp site looks great, but i keep getting java script errors in line 88

>> the warp site looks great, but i keep getting java script errors in line 88 >> (or something like that. is anyone else experiencing this? > >Yeah, the same problem here unless its our primitive Uni browser again... >Otherwise, good work. >

yeah, their site is wicked. DR[tm] has done a good job with frames [not easy!]. this alert cames from the Java Script part on their htm file called "index": they have to put the Java paragraph before the </HEAD> end command. and normally everythings will be ok... i don't have the Warp mail, but i'm sure that someone will post this for me... hope it will working! anyway, is anybody knows where i can find the complete Russ Gabriel or/and Ferox rec. discography? thanks for your help. BRAINda laSOURCE from direct²brain (c)orpo(r)ation http://www.worldnet.net/~d2b [800px600p + netScape 3.0 is £$$£ntial]

the warp site looks great, but i keep getting java script errors in line 88 (or something like that. is anyone else experiencing this? other than that, it's been a good week. received global goon in the mail on monday, and gary moscheles today. i like em both, although "good bye jazz people" is a little bit much. had one of my friends in the room when it came on for the first time, and she looked at me like "what the hell is that?" to which i could only shrig my shoulders and laugh. global goon is great. just makes you feel good. to top all of this off, i'm going to see they might be giants tomorrow night (non-idm, of course, but still a ton of fun)! hope you're all having a lovely day. catch ya later! alan! __ :::::/\ \:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::/ \ \::::::you make the mistake::::::::::: :::/ /\ \ \:::::you judge a man by his race:::: ::/ / /\ \ \::::you go through life:::::::::::: :/ / /__\_\ \:::with egg on your face:::::::::: / / /________\::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: \/___________/::::::::::-beastie boys::::::::::

quoted 2 lines the warp site looks great, but i keep getting java script errors in line 88

> the warp site looks great, but i keep getting java script errors in line 88 > (or something like that. is anyone else experiencing this?

Yeah, the same problem here unless its our primitive Uni browser again... Otherwise, good work. ekku the maintainer of pHinnWeb - everything u ever wanted to know about Finnish techno scene but were too afraid of the reindeer trerra@uta.fi | http://www.uta.fi/~trerra | http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb

people experiencing javascript errors.... you need both javascript *AND* java enabled in netscape for things to work smoothly, you'll be missing out on the sound as well. it's happy on by Win32 and Macs, and it very nearly works for the various UNIXs, as long as you don't need to do anything as obscure as resize the window :) the chat engine should be going by the end of the week. g.

On Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:25:32 -0500, Alex Reynolds <polygon@jhu.edu> wrote:

quoted 2 lines Had a chance to visit the site -- incredible, absolutely incredible.

>Had a chance to visit the site -- incredible, absolutely incredible. >Quite possibly the cleanest and best interface I've seen on a web page.

cheers.

quoted 2 lines I understand that the Designers Republic had a good deal to do with it and

>I understand that the Designers Republic had a good deal to do with it and >it shows in every graphic element therein. This page has *atmosphere*.

concept by me, design (before my very eyes, in FH5, in 25 mins) by Ian Anderson (tDR), javascript by Dorian Moore (Obsolete), layout and HTML, everything else and much more by Chris 'I powerlunch with kylie' McGrail (Obsolete). a 'ta' to AFX for the bleep idea.

quoted 2 lines Anyone with an interest in the music warp records puts out should get to

>Anyone with an interest in the music warp records puts out should get to >a browser capable of interpreting the page

Don't bother trying to use MS Internet Explorer, it doesn't support javascript and the resulting pages are minimal to say the least. g.

In message <32b9e20c.831327@relay-1.mail.inta.net>, g3 <g3@bleep.org> writes

quoted 5 lines On Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:25:32 -0500, Alex Reynolds <polygon@jhu.edu>

>On Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:25:32 -0500, Alex Reynolds <polygon@jhu.edu> >Don't bother trying to use MS Internet Explorer, it doesn't support >javascript and the resulting pages are minimal to say the least. > >g.

Uh? But isn't the whole idea of the web that it shouldn't matter what browser you use, it's platform independant. It annoys me when people write 'best viewed with so-and-so' on a web page, it should look the same whatever browser you use. -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions

On Tue, 17 Dec 1996, Ben Coffer wrote:

quoted 8 lines On Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:25:32 -0500, Alex Reynolds <polygon@jhu.edu>

> >On Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:25:32 -0500, Alex Reynolds <polygon@jhu.edu> > >Don't bother trying to use MS Internet Explorer, it doesn't support > >javascript and the resulting pages are minimal to say the least. > > > Uh? But isn't the whole idea of the web that it shouldn't matter > what browser you use, it's platform independant. It annoys me > when people write 'best viewed with so-and-so' on a web page, > it should look the same whatever browser you use.

no, not if the folks who wrote one of them (micros**t) are trying to subvert what may soon be a standard web-based programming language (java) and replace it with their own. the point is that it _would_ be platform independent, if micros**t could stand having a standard out there that it didn't develop. ignoring, of course, that to view pages that use the latest technology, you have to have software that can understand that technology. laps

On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Warren Lapham wrote:

quoted 2 lines ignoring, of course, that to view pages that use the latest technology,

> ignoring, of course, that to view pages that use the latest technology, > you have to have software that can understand that technology.

Oh yeah, I meant to add that the pages kick my ass. They are wonderwonderwonderful.

quoted 2 lines Had a chance to visit the site -- incredible, absolutely incredible.

> Had a chance to visit the site -- incredible, absolutely incredible. > Quite possibly the cleanest and best interface I've seen on a web page.

Better than the Spymania page? Get out of here...(hehe)

quoted 1 line This page has *atmosphere*.

> This page has *atmosphere*.

But Spymania has Tori's errr....slip mat. Come on, only one person has written me to tell me what they thought of the page. You guys can do better than that! http://www1.linkonline.net/fresh/spymania.htm _____ / ,-,_) /,_) (/ RESH Live & Direct from the G-Spot, Orange County, California, USA

quoted 3 lines But Spymania has Tori's errr....slip mat. Come on, only one person has

>But Spymania has Tori's errr....slip mat. Come on, only one person has >written me to tell me what they thought of the page. You guys can do >better than that!

I don't think you've been exploting Shirley Manson's nipple enough. grant.h.horne http://delta.is.tcu.edu/~ghhorne/ all sex appeal, no dots. except that one.

quoted 5 lines Don't bother trying to use MS Internet Explorer, it doesn't support

>> Don't bother trying to use MS Internet Explorer, it doesn't support >> javascript and the resulting pages are minimal to say the least. > > Uh? But isn't the whole idea of the web that it shouldn't matter > what browser you use, it's platform independant.

No, sorry, you're completely wrong, the whole idea of the web is to dazzle people with your ability to design flashy cutting-edge sites that push technology to the bleeding edge. Remember: it's better to attract people to your site with "novelty" and "experience" than it is to attract them by offering them information they can use in a format that's easy to access and understand. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

On 18 Dec 96 at 17:06, Lazlo Nibble wrote:

quoted 6 lines No, sorry, you're completely wrong, the whole idea of the web is to

> No, sorry, you're completely wrong, the whole idea of the web is to > dazzle people with your ability to design flashy cutting-edge sites > that push technology to the bleeding edge. Remember: it's better to > attract people to your site with "novelty" and "experience" than it > is to attract them by offering them information they can use in a > format that's easy to access and understand.

Ooh, bitter! The trouble is, everything was going okay when it was just Netscape's Mosaic and Navigator doing the running. Now Microsoft have thrown a spanner in the works by introducing their special "fucks up pages designed for Netscape" browser and giving it away with their operating system. Result? Millions of people with the operating system going, "But these web pages are fucked up and we only have the Netscape users to blame!" Come January 15th, my new web site is up and will feature (amongst other things) extensive Autechre/Gescom, Skam and 808 State sections. It'll only be readable on Netscape. Sorry, but that's the way it is. .+'''+. mark@sonance.demon.co.uk M A R K http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/sonance/ `+.,.+' http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/

On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, Mark Stevens wrote:

quoted 9 lines On 18 Dec 96 at 17:06, Lazlo Nibble wrote:

> On 18 Dec 96 at 17:06, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > > No, sorry, you're completely wrong, the whole idea of the web is to > > dazzle people with your ability to design flashy cutting-edge sites > > that push technology to the bleeding edge. Remember: it's better to > > The trouble is, everything was going okay when it was just Netscape's > Mosaic and Navigator doing the running. Now Microsoft have thrown a > spanner in the works by introducing their special "fucks up pages > designed for Netscape" browser and giving it away with their

I know this is the HTML & Web page design list, but I'd like to throw in $0.02. Whenever a user agent (i.e. browser) makes a request, it tells the server which browser it is, and which version. So if the browser tells you it is Netscape and the version is 2.0 or higher, you can sent it a page with frames and javascript and all supported bells & whistles. Otherwise send a page with "just the facts, ma'am". Anyone who works with computers should keep in mind the concept of "backward compatibility". obIDM: Got a pre-release copy of the upcoming Richard H. Kirk release on his Alphaphone label -- Nitrogen, _Intoxica_ 2CD. Kirk's name does not appear on the outside of the package, only inside the booklet. Further details forthcoming. This is supposed to be out in February, though a few copies are floating around. --Mark __ <http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome> ==> MPEG audio clips <== m u s i c : w e b : s o u n d d e s i g n : h t m l : c g i : e t c "We invented machines in order to reduce our work. Now that we have them, we think we should go on working." (John Cage)

Hi, Somebody said:

quoted 12 lines Don't bother trying to use MS Internet Explorer, it doesn't support

>>> Don't bother trying to use MS Internet Explorer, it doesn't support >>> javascript and the resulting pages are minimal to say the least. >> >> Uh? But isn't the whole idea of the web that it shouldn't matter >> what browser you use, it's platform independant. > >No, sorry, you're completely wrong, the whole idea of the web is to dazzle >people with your ability to design flashy cutting-edge sites that push >technology to the bleeding edge. Remember: it's better to attract people to >your site with "novelty" and "experience" than it is to attract them by >offering them information they can use in a format that's easy to access and >understand.

Times are a'changing! :) Take the old saying "a picture tells a thousand words".. this isn't true when it comes to the web, as downloading a picture takes much longer than downloading a thousand words. :) ObIDM: Anybody care to review Carl Craig's newie "The Secret Tapes of Dr Eich", thanks?? Regards, John

On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, Turbo wrote:

quoted 3 lines ObIDM: Anybody care to review Carl Craig's newie "The Secret Tapes of Dr

> ObIDM: Anybody care to review Carl Craig's newie "The Secret Tapes of Dr > Eich", > thanks??

If you buy CDs get it. End to end documentation of one of the greats greatest. Dunno if it's newie tho! Teep on now: flexitone:Nausicaa: beyond/v2 in the works sit tight and listen keenly....

mark@sonance.com sez:

quoted 3 lines Come January 15th, my new web site is up and will feature (amongst

>Come January 15th, my new web site is up and will feature (amongst >other things) extensive Autechre/Gescom, Skam and 808 State sections. >It'll only be readable on Netscape. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

____________________ You made the right choice. As Atom Heart reminds us on Machine Paisley: "Never ever trust a Microsoft tool!" bye Brian

quoted 7 lines The trouble is, everything was going okay when it was just Netscape's

> The trouble is, everything was going okay when it was just Netscape's > Mosaic and Navigator doing the running. Now Microsoft have thrown a > spanner in the works by introducing their special "fucks up pages > designed for Netscape" browser and giving it away with their > operating system. Result? Millions of people with the operating > system going, "But these web pages are fucked up and we only have the > Netscape users to blame!"

Hey, as far as I'm concerned, any site that isn't at least *decipherable* with the most bare-bones text-based browser *is* fucked up. Intentionally designing informational sites that require you to use one particular piece of software to access them completely misses the point of putting an informational site up on the web in the first place . . . -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

On 20 Dec 96 at 14:06, Lazlo Nibble wrote: [Mark]

quoted 5 lines The trouble is, everything was going okay when it was just

>> The trouble is, everything was going okay when it was just >> Netscape's Mosaic and Navigator doing the running. Now Microsoft >> have thrown a spanner in the works by introducing their special >> "fucks up pages designed for Netscape" browser and giving it away >> with their operating system.

[Lazlo]

quoted 3 lines Hey, as far as I'm concerned, any site that isn't at least

> Hey, as far as I'm concerned, any site that isn't at least > *decipherable* with the most bare-bones text-based browser *is* > fucked up.

Fear not, my web site will have two versions. One for Netscape freaks and a text-only alternative. Even the Netscape one will be decipherable (and isn't as Netscape-orientated as it sounds). I think the <FONT> tag is the only non-HTML tag I've used. The 'heavy' version will require a browser than can handle frames (possibly) and tables (definitely) though. The 'light' version will just be 100% text (with links, of course). The site isn't finished yet, so there's still room to take on board suggestions. Thankfully there are people on here who are capable of offering a more balanced, helpful criticism than Aran Parillo's full-out personal attack.

quoted 4 lines Intentionally designing informational sites that require

> Intentionally designing informational sites that require > you to use one particular piece of software to access them > completely misses the point of putting an informational site up on > the web in the first place . . .

But not if you're designing the site for about a dozen mates, each of whom you know uses that one particular piece of software. Of course, a few thousand strangers with compatible browsers may also wander in, which would be nice. .+'''+. mark@sonance.demon.co.uk M A R K http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/sonance/ `+.,.+' http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/

"Lazlo Nibble" <lazlo@swcp.com> wrote :

quoted 5 lines Hey, as far as I'm concerned, any site that isn't at least *decipherable*

>Hey, as far as I'm concerned, any site that isn't at least *decipherable* >with the most bare-bones text-based browser *is* fucked up. Intentionally >designing informational sites that require you to use one particular >piece of software to access them completely misses the point of putting an >informational site up on the web in the first place . . .

Well said, Lazlo ! I entirely agree. The *least* that people could do is to put up 2 versions of their web pages...one with fancy graphics & one with just the plain text. Merry Christmas everyone ! Aca

if you haven't yet, go check out warp-net. the "we are reasonable people" page is up, with realaudio for all of the tracks. neato stuff. also, the autechre album page is up, with clips as well. i almost don't want to listen to any of them. i'd want too badly to hear the whole thing! oh well. alan! np:chimera:valley of the spirits