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1996-12-15 21:23Mark Stevens (idm) MTV Europe: Useless for IDM
└─ 1996-12-15 23:17Lloyd Alvarez Re: (idm) MTV Europe: Useless for IDM
1996-12-16 14:36Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Re: (idm) MTV Europe: Useless for IDM
1996-12-16 20:46WeeZ Re: (idm) MTV Europe: Useless for IDM
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1996-12-15 21:23Mark StevensOn 14 Dec 96 at 3:02, a lifeform wrote: > So, who's the spy from MTV lurking on IDM taking
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On 14 Dec 96 at 3:02, a lifeform wrote:
quoted 2 lines So, who's the spy from MTV lurking on IDM taking the discussions> So, who's the spy from MTV lurking on IDM taking the discussions > here and turning them into a TV show? :-)
It looks as though you lot over in the States get a better deal than us in Europe when it comes to MTV & IDM, which is a bit odd when you consider how much decent IDM comes from the UK and surrounding countries. MTV Europe have a few so-called specialist programs, such as 'Chill Out' and 'Party Zone', but for the most part they just play endless club shite. They may occasionally wheel out the odd classic, such as FSOL's 'Humanoid', 808 State's 'Pacific' or Aphex Twin's 'On', but for the most part it's all a bit tiresome. Of course, there are still a few surprises. Once in a blue moon, they'll show something like FSOL's 'Teachings from the Electronic Brain' or Spooky's 'Found Sound Video Project', but such treats are very few and far between. I'm seriously tempted to write up a proposal for decent IDM and send it in to MTV Europe, including sample playlists, presentation methods and such. Whether or not they'll read it is another matter. Still, something needs to be done. .+'''+. mark@sonance.demon.co.uk M A R K http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/sonance/ `+.,.+' http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/
1996-12-15 23:17Lloyd AlvarezAt 5:23 PM -0400 12/15/96, Mark Stevens wrote: >It looks as though you lot over in the Sta
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At 5:23 PM -0400 12/15/96, Mark Stevens wrote:
quoted 5 lines It looks as though you lot over in the States get a better deal than>It looks as though you lot over in the States get a better deal than >us in Europe when it comes to MTV & IDM, which is a bit odd when you >consider how much decent IDM comes from the UK and surrounding >countries. >
I would not go that far. AMP is a show that was long overdue (IMO), but it just came recently, and if you want to watch it, you better know how to program your VCR, or have somebody lend you a tape of it. When 50+% of the programming on MTV US is IDM or intelligent period, then i'd start saying we have a better deal then over here. I live on Miami Beach, and I get MTV Latino on my cable since it originates from here, and I personally like it much better than MTV USA. (They are way more cutting edge). What it all boils down to really is that all MTV sucks, and will continue to do so if it wishes to remain trendy and make money, so until then you're always going to wish for something you don't have which is not much better than what you already have. ----------------------------- Lloyd Alvarez 3D animator/Designer http://www.shake.com/lloyd/ -----------------------------
1996-12-16 14:36Lars Magne IngebrigtsenMark Stevens <mark@sonance.demon.co.uk> writes: > MTV Europe have a few so-called speciali
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Mark Stevens <mark@sonance.demon.co.uk> writes:
quoted 5 lines MTV Europe have a few so-called specialist programs, such as 'Chill> MTV Europe have a few so-called specialist programs, such as 'Chill > Out' and 'Party Zone', but for the most part they just play endless > club shite. They may occasionally wheel out the odd classic, such as > FSOL's 'Humanoid', 808 State's 'Pacific' or Aphex Twin's 'On', but > for the most part it's all a bit tiresome.
I think I must be living in some sort of alternative universe -- the version of "Chill Out Zone" and "Party Zone" I see on MTV Europe in this universe constantly plays the stuff we talk about here. They've played all the Warp videos many, many times; they do looong interviews with RDJ, Orbital (you know the list); I've seen "On" a gazillion times; and they seem to be playing those X-MIX-X videos from R&S in toto. "Chill Out Zone" is 90 minutes of IDM with a few novelty items thrown in, while "Party Zone" seems to be 50% funkee and 50% idmee. "Dance Floor" is 100% funkee, of course. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen
1996-12-16 20:46WeeZ>I think I must be living in some sort of alternative universe -- the >version of "Chill O
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quoted 7 lines I think I must be living in some sort of alternative universe -- the>I think I must be living in some sort of alternative universe -- the >version of "Chill Out Zone" and "Party Zone" I see on MTV Europe in >this universe constantly plays the stuff we talk about here. They've >played all the Warp videos many, many times; they do looong interviews >with RDJ, Orbital (you know the list); I've seen "On" a gazillion >times; and they seem to be playing those X-MIX-X videos from R&S in >toto.
Correction, the X-MIX video's are from K7, that's GERMAN... The Party Zone DOESN'T play IDM but most of the time commercial stuff... And I watch ALOT of MTV, also live in Europe and where are those LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG interviews? I just saw RDJ's interview with Simone, and the half of it was ripped from a magazine...
quoted 3 lines "Chill Out Zone" is 90 minutes of IDM with a few novelty items thrown>"Chill Out Zone" is 90 minutes of IDM with a few novelty items thrown >in, while "Party Zone" seems to be 50% funkee and 50% idmee. "Dance >Floor" is 100% funkee, of course.
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