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On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Blipvert wrote:

quoted 2 lines The impression here seems to be that the Advance album is not worthwhile.

> The impression here seems to be that the Advance album is not worthwhile. > What is the opinion of people who liked the first LFO album?

LFO "Frequencies" :-)))) LFO "Advance" :-(((

quoted 1 line After all, I could buy other imoports instead.

> After all, I could buy other imoports instead.

right! take care, harald

On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Harald Schmitz wrote:

quoted 4 lines The impression here seems to be that the Advance album is not worthwhile.

> > The impression here seems to be that the Advance album is not worthwhile. > > What is the opinion of people who liked the first LFO album? > LFO "Frequencies" :-)))) > LFO "Advance" :-(((

I think that's for the dogs IMHO. Both albums are wonderful, though admittedly, quite different. Frequencies has a much more conscious dancefloor friendly approach, while Advance is more braincandy for nodding heads. Advance is skillfully written, and extremely pleasing to listen to... Frequencies dies out after while...though revivals every 2-3 months are worth the trouble of remembering. Keep an open mind to this sorta thing... you could surprise yourself some day... Onnow: Psychic TV "Trip Reset" (Cleopatra) Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong." For reviews, interviews, art & trash *UPDATED* http://www.io.org/~amichel/ amichel@io.org

hi, On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Aaron Michelson wrote:

quoted 5 lines LFO "Frequencies" :-))))

> > LFO "Frequencies" :-)))) > > LFO "Advance" :-((( > > I think that's for the dogs IMHO. Both albums are wonderful, though > admittedly, quite different.

Right, and that's why I don`t like the 2nd ambum anymore. It is different in a way that is not my taste.

quoted 1 line Frequencies has a much more conscious dancefloor friendly approach,

> Frequencies has a much more conscious dancefloor friendly approach,

yes, and its great!

quoted 3 lines while Advance is more braincandy for nodding heads.

> while Advance is more braincandy for nodding heads. > Advance is skillfully written, and extremely pleasing to > listen to...

IMO not. Partly it's just boring, unmotivated programming and then some parts are just not at all pleasing to listen to (like Tied Up).

quoted 1 line Frequencies dies out after while...

> Frequencies dies out after while...

That might me your little private problem! Next to my personal taste my criticism on Advance is, that it is IMHO produced not very creatively. Very often it is predictable what is coming. Standart build ups of a track (intro, more layers, rhythm,...) and than a lot of tracks have fade-in and -out's, which to me is anything other than creative and the used sounds are also not very refreshing (as they are f.e. with Autechre). Don't forget, that ther original question was, how people that liked Frequencies like the Advance album. Sure, some people (like you?) might like the Advance very much, no problem with that, but as you wrote yourself both albums are very different and if he liked the 1st album, he should at least listen to the 2nd before buying it to prevent a possible dissapointment. peace, Harald

On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Harald Schmitz wrote:

quoted 2 lines IMO not. Partly it's just boring, unmotivated programming and then some

> IMO not. Partly it's just boring, unmotivated programming and then some > parts are just not at all pleasing to listen to (like Tied Up).

Tied Up is one of those tracks like Aphex Twin's "Ventolin" that takes a couple weeks worth of listening before it sinks in. I love the track now, but I bummed out at first. Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong." For reviews, interviews, art & trash *UPDATED* http://www.io.org/~amichel/ amichel@io.org

I've probably said this before, but I honestly don't understand why so many listeners have such a problem with LFO's _Advance_. It doesn't resemble the 1st album at all -- but years later why should it? _Advance_ is finely-crafted and engaging, but close attention and/or repeated listenings may help. Is _Advance_ too demanding, abstract, or harsh for the tastes of listmembers? Please enlighten me. The best bargain, if you can find it, is probably the "We are Back"/"LFO" single on Tommy Boy. --Mark __ <http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome> ==> MPEG audio clips <== M U S I C : W E B : S O U N D D E S I G N : H T M L : C G I : E T C "The fact their parents have separated doesn't disturb the children. They go on looking at television. How old should they be before they smoke marijuana? No one seems to know." (John Cage) On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Blipvert wrote:

quoted 7 lines The impression here seems to be that the Advance album is not worthwhile.

> The impression here seems to be that the Advance album is not worthwhile. > What is the opinion of people who liked the first LFO album? I was going > to buy Advance but I want some opinions before spending the mney on an > import. After all, I could buy other imoports instead. > > Steve >

On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Mark Kolmar wrote:

quoted 2 lines Is _Advance_ too demanding, abstract, or harsh for the tastes of

> Is _Advance_ too demanding, abstract, or harsh for the tastes of > listmembers? Please enlighten me.

It doesn't go 'boom boom boom' in the night... Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong." For reviews, interviews, art & trash *UPDATED* http://www.io.org/~amichel/ amichel@io.org

quoted 4 lines The impression here seems to be that the Advance album is not worthwhile.

>The impression here seems to be that the Advance album is not worthwhile. >What is the opinion of people who liked the first LFO album? I was going >to buy Advance but I want some opinions before spending the mney on an >import. After all, I could buy other imoports instead.

Hmmm, imho, the first time I heard Advance sent shivers down my spine... And I still feel as though it's a multi-faceted disc of textural beauty... I think part of the dissapointment with Advance may be because there's just so much good music out there now, and I think people were hoping for something completely different from the norm. But when Frequencies came out there wasn't nearly as much idmesque music coming out, and it totally stood out from most of the music coming out at that time... So I think it's a bit unfair to compare the two, being that the surroundings in which each was created were completely different... just a thought... q "The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible." Clarke's Second Law

Aaron Michelson wrote:

quoted 7 lines I think that's for the dogs IMHO. Both albums are wonderful, though

> I think that's for the dogs IMHO. Both albums are wonderful, though > admittedly, quite different. Frequencies has a much more conscious > dancefloor friendly approach, while Advance is more braincandy for > nodding heads. Advance is skillfully written, and extremely pleasing to > listen to... Frequencies dies out after while...though revivals every > 2-3 months are worth the trouble of remembering. >

My sentiments exactly. I was going to write the same reply this morning, but wanted to listen to 'Advance' again before responding...I got home tonight and gave it a listen and concurred completely with Aaron. I'm surprised some people have slagged this one...It's a lot more IDMish then Frequencies. Most of the tracks are quite slow and weird, as opposed to fast and funky. I was little disappointed with Advance at first listen because I had been playing the shit out of the Tied-Up ep (especially the Electro and lp mixes) and was expecting more stuff like Frequencies (like everyone else). This unhappiness with Advance didn't last, and soon it seamed like I'd work at least one track off it into my weekly chillout sets with out fail. It's all good stuff, just give it a spin! peace, brock np: The Orb - 'aubrey mixes'