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Was keen on getting the new Welt album but if it really is 30mins then this IS taking the piss a bit. I personally thought Cylobs new album was pretty short at 44 mins(I think) but it is also a product of our expectations. The gentle people single may have been 40 mins but this is fairly rare and in the past 15 mins would be normal. It is also worth bearing in mind that the concept of albums/eps and singles as distinct formats is made obsolete by the existence of cds which can hold 80mins - its just more money, even if it is nice to have unavailable material. Vinyl is the only format that these formats make sense on but i think that those prices are too high really and at the end of the day a scratch on vinyl is like a physical wound on your own body! So do I get Bochum or not? r

On Mon, 9 Sep 1996 11:50:27 GMT, you wrote:

quoted 13 lines Was keen on getting the new Welt album but if it really is 30mins

>Was keen on getting the new Welt album but if it really is 30mins >then this IS taking the piss a bit. I personally thought Cylobs new >album was pretty short at 44 mins(I think) but it is also a product >of our expectations. The gentle people single may have been 40 mins >but this is fairly rare and in the past 15 mins would be normal. It >is also worth bearing in mind that the concept of albums/eps and >singles as distinct formats is made obsolete by the existence of cds >which can hold 80mins - its just more money, even if it is nice to >have unavailable material. Vinyl is the only format that these >formats make sense on but i think that those prices are too high >really and at the end of the day a scratch on vinyl is like a >physical wound on your own body! >So do I get Bochum or not?

Do you think we should start rating albums on a "Which? Magazine" price per minute value kind of basis? Aphex's new album "Richard D. James" is only 32 mins btw. Most recording contracts I've looked at class an album as being 10 tracks and 40 mins, but generally speaking an album is an album when the artist says so, unless a record company is really arsey about it, in which case said artist bolts on a few fillers... heh, what's going to happen now that DVD has arrived - who's going to be the first with a 8.5 hour (16bit44kHz) album? what will that do for the price/min value factor? And where will 40 min albums sit in that context? will that make them even less desirable? "Blimey Computer World that's only 30something minutes. That's a bit shit". Interestingly and semi-tangentially a new superdooper standard (24bit 96kHz, and 2.5hours of it) has been proposed to fill DVD's massive 17GB capacity with something useful. At last - decent sound for CDs! g.

On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, g3 wrote:

quoted 3 lines Most recording contracts I've looked at class an album as being 10

> Most recording contracts I've looked at class an album as being 10 > tracks and 40 mins, but generally speaking an album is an album when > the artist says so.

That's cool. I don't think anyone really cares what it's *called*..an album or an ep. People just want value for the money they spend. If it's a 26 minute album like the Bochum Welt release, sell it a reduced price. What I can't really understand is that the 73 minute Chimera album was sold at a reduced "budget" price while the 26 minute Bochum "album" is full price. Weird. I suppose it evens out. T.

Hi there,

quoted 1 line Most recording contracts I've looked at class an album

> > Most recording contracts I've looked at class an album

as being 10

quoted 1 line tracks and 40 mins, but generally speaking an album is

> > tracks and 40 mins, but generally speaking an album is

an album when

quoted 1 line the artist says so.

> > the artist says so.

quoted 1 line That's cool. I don't think anyone really cares what it's

> That's cool. I don't think anyone really cares what it's

*called*..an album

quoted 1 line or an ep. People just want value for the money they

> or an ep. People just want value for the money they

spend. If it's a 26

quoted 1 line minute album like the Bochum Welt release, sell it a

> minute album like the Bochum Welt release, sell it a

reduced price.

quoted 1 line What I can't really understand is that the 73 minute

> What I can't really understand is that the 73 minute

Chimera album was sold

quoted 1 line at a reduced "budget" price while the 26 minute Bochum

> at a reduced "budget" price while the 26 minute Bochum

"album" is full

quoted 1 line price. Weird. I suppose it evens out.

> price. Weird. I suppose it evens out.

I agree totally. I have no complaints about the quality of the album, indeed I think it's really good. I just think it shouldn't have been sold as a full price album. Could it be some sort of marketing "test" on the part of Rephlex? If so, I think they would've sold more units had it been priced like the Chimera album. bye, Eric.