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quoted 2 lines Well I thought you said IDM, not techno. Techno is something

>Well I thought you said IDM, not techno. Techno is something >different entirely.

WHAT??? IDM is a MAIL LIST!!! There just happens to be a group of people that decided they liked this emerging style of techno that was more listening style than dance floor style but it's still techno, thank you very much.

quoted 4 lines Understand that if some of the artist we talk the

>Understand that if some of the artist we talk the >most about on this list recieved the type of recognition your >talking about, we could pretty much kiss what we do right now >goodbye.

HELLO!!! The majority of this list CENTERS around over-media-hyped artists! BTW what do you mean "what we do?" What are we doing besides sharing ideas about music releases???

quoted 4 lines Why do you think Aphex and FSOL release things under

>Why do you think Aphex and FSOL release things under >secret names and low numbers? They're trying to return things to a >reasonable place, where the true fans can get their hands on >things.

What? Are you chummy with these guys? Are you in on their secrets? Releasing under different names and with weird and obscure pressings is the nature of the scene. It was happening WAAAAAY before RDJ, Mike P, or FSOL were popular (ever heard of Stakker Humanoid???) These people are just dedicated to the weird and obscure. This is all part of the sound and the vibe.

quoted 3 lines If Aphex or Mike P ended up on the cover of mainstream mags

>If Aphex or Mike P ended up on the cover of mainstream mags >with vids on MTV all the time I can garuntee they would make things >even harder for us.

And what do you call being on the cover of Future Music? What do you call being featured in Keyboard or big time music rags like Aphex Twin and FSOL have done? It would appear that you are ignorant to the fact that the people you mention are the ones GETTING all the big media hype. THEY'RE the ones who can afford to buy the gear they want and get the studio time they need to release on major labels like Sire and Virgin.

quoted 2 lines Believe me, we would never hear from them again

>Believe me, we would never hear from them again >and we'd all be left scratching our heads...

I'm scratching my head trying to figure out where your coming from. What do you mean we'd never hear from them? When have we heard from them except through the media? _ -robert | |___ ____ ____ _____ | |_ \ / -__/ / _/ | _ \ __________ |_____/ \___\ |_| | |__/ / -studio- \ _________________________________ |_| http://icse1.ucsd.edu/~rcurlee/ \

quoted 2 lines sorry to interrupt your incredibly dull post(s), but I'd just like to

>sorry to interrupt your incredibly dull post(s), but I'd just like to >reiterate that Stakker Humanoid Is the Bomb!!!!

Pardon me but if our thread was so boring, why were you reading it? Caught ya! On the Humanoid tip... I have always wondered if anyone else was into them way back when. I think Stakker Humanoid was '89. I picked that up on Westside as a single and also later found the Slam 12" as well as a full length called Global Humanoid when they came out. Am I the only one out there with the album and the Slam 12"? I always wondered about where the hell Gary Cobain came off saying shit about how he was there "from the very beginning" with Brian Dougans. I remember an album liner that spoke about Brian being transplanted to the UK from Holland I think and there was NEVER any mention of any partner in crime back then. In fact the liner notes for the Global Humanoid full length lists a bunch of production people and engineers and such but only lists a Gaz Cobain as singing in one track (which is the worst track on the album BTW). Were there any better mixes of Slam than this one 12"? It has potential but doesn't really take off. I bet if there were some instrumental remixes or something, they's be fantastic... Anyway, just trainspotting. I'd love to find the 12" of Mental Cube - Chile of the Bass Generation. I think that's one of their all time best next to Stakker Humanoid and Accelerator. One of my personal favorites is Cry Baby as well if you like acid. Sorry for being so "dull". I didn't know it was my duty to be every ones personal entertainment. _ -robert | |___ ____ ____ _____ | |_ \ / -__/ / _/ | _ \ __________ |_____/ \___\ |_| | |__/ / -studio- \ _________________________________ |_| http://icse1.ucsd.edu/~rcurlee/ \

At 9:21 AM -0700 8/5/96, Robot wrote:

quoted 2 lines On the Humanoid tip...

>On the Humanoid tip... >I have always wondered if anyone else was into them way back when.

yes indeed i was.

quoted 5 lines I think

>I think >Stakker Humanoid was '89. I picked that up on Westside as a single and also >later found the Slam 12" as well as a full length called Global Humanoid >when they came out. Am I the only one out there with the album and the Slam >12"?

i don't have the 12" but i do have the album which i picked up in summer of 1990. it is mostly unbearably bad though. for some reason (sentimental?) i haven't sold it.

quoted 4 lines Anyway, just trainspotting. I'd love to find the 12" of Mental Cube - Chile

>Anyway, just trainspotting. I'd love to find the 12" of Mental Cube - Chile >of the Bass Generation. I think that's one of their all time best next to >Stakker Humanoid and Accelerator. One of my personal favorites is Cry Baby >as well if you like acid.

yep yep yep, you're right on there. the only old FSOL-related 12" i have is Mental Cube "So This is Love" which is great. chile of the bass generation is amazing. there was a time when it was de rigeur for it to be played at least once (and usually twice) per evening at san francisco parties. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Drukman jsd@cyborganic.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Robot wrote:

quoted 1 line later found the Slam 12" as well as a full length called Global Humanoid

> later found the Slam 12" as well as a full length called Global Humanoid

Slam 12" is imo the worst thing ever. My roomate has this and I listened to it and cringed. Oh well, Stakker Humanoid is the bomb.

quoted 2 lines Sorry for being so "dull". I didn't know it was my duty to be every ones

> Sorry for being so "dull". I didn't know it was my duty to be every ones > personal entertainment.

of course it is! What were you thinking? And so interesting that thread.... _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- J A M E S B E N J A M I N G I L L U N F O R T U N A T E L Y L I V I N G I N A R I Z O N A J G I L L @ U . A R I Z O N A . E D U (ron trent is *still* the bomb!)

On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Robot wrote:

quoted 17 lines On the Humanoid tip...

> On the Humanoid tip... > > I have always wondered if anyone else was into them way back when. I think > Stakker Humanoid was '89. I picked that up on Westside as a single and also > later found the Slam 12" as well as a full length called Global Humanoid > when they came out. Am I the only one out there with the album and the Slam > 12"? I always wondered about where the hell Gary Cobain came off saying > shit about how he was there "from the very beginning" with Brian Dougans. I > remember an album liner that spoke about Brian being transplanted to the UK > from Holland I think and there was NEVER any mention of any partner in crime > back then. In fact the liner notes for the Global Humanoid full length > lists a bunch of production people and engineers and such but only lists a > Gaz Cobain as singing in one track (which is the worst track on the album BTW). > > Were there any better mixes of Slam than this one 12"? It has potential but > doesn't really take off. I bet if there were some instrumental remixes or > something, they's be fantastic...

I have the Humanoid single - SLAM, it is total shite. I liked Stakker Humanoid it is a great track. After hearing Slam, I stayed away from their full-length. I also have Q - Mental Cube by them. On now: Mr Fingers - Can You Feel It B i l l S a m u e l s w l s @ U . A r i z o n a . E D U

Robot wrote on Mon, 05 Aug 96 17:21:04 BST :

quoted 1 line I have always wondered if anyone else was into them way back when.

> I have always wondered if anyone else was into them way back when.

Indeed. That track was massive. One of the biggest acid/techno tracks in the UK at the time. I was well into acid and techno by then, having been into house from way back in 86. In fact on Friday I celebrate 10 years since buying my first house record, well it was a dance compilation called "Upfront 1" which contained Steve Silk Hurley's "Jack Your Body", which didn't get released as a single till after Christmas. I remember thinking "Slam" was shite, and not even bothering with the LP thinking it was a pity they'd been such a one off. then later on the Pulse EPs started appearing and the realisation started dawning on me (and everyone else) that half of Jumpin' and Pumpin's (the better half at that) release roster was all the same guys. Then before you know, wierd shit like "Apex twins" (or something) started appearing in the shops... :) J ^ __________ ________.__/_____ _||_/ James Skilton aka Steady J _[]/_____________[.__\____-_ DJ and Party Animal | | Part Time Hedonist |____________________________| Full Time Technohead |__|-' '-|__| Steady-J@Firefox.co.uk Autechre and SKAM discogs: http://subnet.virtual-pc.com/~sk393820/