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So, the results are in and the latest µ-ziq is apparently great... What is this change in the Paradinas success due to? I read he got married, moved, and has a kid now. Could this be it? I'm not an insider, but am curious.. any insight?

On 07/20/97 00:53:33 you wrote:

quoted 11 lines So, the results are in and the latest ?-ziq is apparently great...

> >So, the results are in and the latest ?-ziq is apparently great... > >What is this change in the Paradinas success due to? > >I read he got married, moved, and has a kid now. > >Could this be it? I'm not an insider, but am curious.. >any insight? > >

Is it just me and was Tango N Vectif his best ?? It seems like everything else was down hill from there. ROB **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq ****************************************

I got tango N vectif first, and although I liked it and could appreciate its quality and his talent, In Pine Effect seems to do a lot more for me (although I've only listened to it once). On Sun, 20 July 1997, at 08:07:16, phlux@ix.netcom.com wrote:

quoted 2 lines Is it just me and was Tango N Vectif his best ?? It seems like everything else was down hi

> Is it just me and was Tango N Vectif his best ?? It seems like everything else was down hill from there. >

quoted 14 lines Is it just me and was Tango N Vectif his best ?? It seems like everything

>> >>Is it just me and was Tango N Vectif his best ?? It seems like everything >>else was down hill from there. >> >> >>ROB >> >ohhh flippin eck! How can you say that??? I don't know where you're based >but if like me , you're in LOndon, then you should get yoursefl down to the >Blue Note on Tuesday 22nd to catch Mike and Luke Vibert, then I'm sure yu'd >be eating your words! > >Alessandra >

Unfortunately, I'm on the other side of the globe in the US. I think that Mike has had some good records but nothing hit me quite the way tango N vectif did. ROB **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq ****************************************

quoted 8 lines I got tango N vectif first, and although I liked it and could

>I got tango N vectif first, and although I liked it and could >appreciate its quality and his talent, In Pine Effect seems to do a >lot more for me (although I've only listened to it once). > >On Sun, 20 July 1997, at 08:07:16, phlux@ix.netcom.com wrote: > >> Is it just me and was Tango N Vectif his best ?? It seems like everything >else was down hill from there.

OK, I'm going to get flamed into oblivion for this most likely, but what I really hope is that someone will explain to me what it is about Paradinas' work that is so engaging (here come the flames). Years ago I had heard "Roy Castle" on TEX3. Loved it, how could you not? It's just an adorable little happy go lucky tune with smarmy little childlike melodies and metallic drums that beat you over the head. So when "In Pine Effect" came out, I bought it, hoping, I don't know, that the album would convey a similar mood (Roy Castle was the opener) or at least some good tracks. The album to me was just very wonky sounding, not very masterful, and just all around bad.Granted "roy castle" is kind of wonky, but somehow strikes a balance. About half way through the cd I was thinking "this has got to be some musical humor on a higher level", kind of like RDJ does, only much more masterfully so IMHO. In Pine Effect is the only techno/idm cd I've given away in my years since collecting this genre. I just found it entirely unlistenable, with the exception of the opening track. Yet I read so many listmembers clamoring for his work under various aliases. I humbly ask that someone recommend another cd of his, be it Muziq or Kid or Gary or Jake, so that I might see the light. If there is a certain required mindset that should accompany listening to a Paradinas work, I would like to be informed of that as well. Again, not bashing the man as I've only experienced one cd, and would like to hear what the fuss really is all about. Putting on the flame retardant underoos now, James

quoted 7 lines Yet I read so many listmembers clamoring for his work under various

> Yet I read so many listmembers clamoring for his work under various > aliases. I humbly ask that someone recommend another cd of his, be it > Muziq or Kid or Gary or Jake, so that I might see the light. If there is > a certain required mindset that should accompany listening to a Paradinas > work, I would like to be informed of that as well. Again, not bashing the > man as I've only experienced one cd, and would like to hear what the fuss > really is all about.

I think his most recent LP, _lunatic harness_, sez it best. I also really liked Slaz's _makes racket_ and Gary Moschelles'es _shaped to make your life easier_. although the later isn't too popular with everyone else. But I haven't ventured to pick up _Bluff Limbo_ or _Tango & Vectif_, which are the supposed must haves. freshie Paranoia: The choice of a Tech Generation http://silly.com/~tang

On 07/21/97 17:45:13 you wrote:

quoted 14 lines I got tango N vectif first, and although I liked it and could

> >>I got tango N vectif first, and although I liked it and could >>appreciate its quality and his talent, In Pine Effect seems to do a >>lot more for me (although I've only listened to it once). >> >>On Sun, 20 July 1997, at 08:07:16, phlux@ix.netcom.com wrote: >> >>> Is it just me and was Tango N Vectif his best ?? It seems like everything >>else was down hill from there. > >OK, I'm going to get flamed into oblivion for this most likely, but what >I really hope is that someone will explain to me what it is about >Paradinas' work that is so engaging (here come the flames). >

Don't feel bad.....I feel the same way about luke vibert. ROB **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq ****************************************

At 05:45 PM 7/21/97 -0000, you wrote:

quoted 4 lines I got tango N vectif first, and although I liked it and could

>>I got tango N vectif first, and although I liked it and could >>appreciate its quality and his talent, In Pine Effect seems to do a >>lot more for me (although I've only listened to it once). >>

I'm not really into Tango or In Pine. My fave is "Bluff Limbo." I think there is alot more diverse tracks on there than any of Mike's stuff I've ever heard. I would suggest it over any of his other works. I haven't heard anyone say they really liked "Bluff Limbo". Why not?

quoted 13 lines Years ago I had heard "Roy Castle" on TEX3. Loved it, how could you not?

>Years ago I had heard "Roy Castle" on TEX3. Loved it, how could you not? >It's just an adorable little happy go lucky tune with smarmy little >childlike melodies and metallic drums that beat you over the head. So >when "In Pine Effect" came out, I bought it, hoping, I don't know, that >the album would convey a similar mood (Roy Castle was the opener) or at >least some good tracks. The album to me was just very wonky sounding, not >very masterful, and just all around bad.Granted "roy castle" is kind of >wonky, but somehow strikes a balance. About half way through the cd I was >thinking "this has got to be some musical humor on a higher level", kind >of like RDJ does, only much more masterfully so IMHO. In Pine Effect is >the only techno/idm cd I've given away in my years since collecting this >genre. I just found it entirely unlistenable, with the exception of the >opening track.

Here comes the flame: You must have shit in your ears. You didn't like "Old Fun #1"? God, that track really has good progression. The opening double bass and then the distorted hi hats. It all really makes me shiver. How about "Funky Pipecleaner"? Once again, this track really isn't the noise fest you claim the album to be. You probably only listened to this album once and forgot about the good tracks. You must only remember tracks like "Mr. Angry" or "Within a Sound" which all are noisey. I'm glad a tone deaf person like you gave this away to someone who probably knows more about actually listening to albums than you. What the hell do you even listen to?

quoted 8 lines Yet I read so many listmembers clamoring for his work under various

>Yet I read so many listmembers clamoring for his work under various >aliases. I humbly ask that someone recommend another cd of his, be it >Muziq or Kid or Gary or Jake, so that I might see the light. If there is >a certain required mindset that should accompany listening to a Paradinas >work, I would like to be informed of that as well. Again, not bashing the >man as I've only experienced one cd, and would like to hear what the fuss >really is all about. >

Once again, my personal fave is "Bluff Limbo", also "Salsa With Mesquite" is good as well. Avoid "Urmer Bile Trax" at all costs. I think another reader wrote he didn't like some Jake Slazenger stuff, so I'd skip that. Rusty

quoted 3 lines OK, I'm going to get flamed into oblivion for this most likely, but what

>OK, I'm going to get flamed into oblivion for this most likely, but what >I really hope is that someone will explain to me what it is about >Paradinas' work that is so engaging (here come the flames).

I love his music partly because of the contrasts of sounds. He does those really mean distorted drum tracks and then introduces a wonderful melody played with unbelievable tonal purity, and it just melts my heart. (Best played on CD) -Ed