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I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it seems to me that an entire country is getting left out of the talking here: the US. We do have some IDM labels, and I'd like to hear about more. I mean, sure we have Reflective, Hardkiss, Sunburn, basically anything coming out of San Francisco, but what else? And is anyone else out there infatuated with the Skint label like I am? I'm told they're putting out a compilation soon and I can't wait.

On Mon, 20 May 1996, Andrew E Hime wrote:

quoted 5 lines And is anyone else out there infatuated with the Skint label like I am?

> > And is anyone else out there infatuated with the Skint label like I am? > I'm told they're putting out a compilation soon and I can't wait. > >

--SKINT REC'S IS THE ABSOLUTE ROCKIN'IST LABEL. They rule. My fave releases so far are the FatBoy Slim singles. Everybody loves a 303 rocks the house. Peace. 30303030303030303030303030303 James Benjamin Gill jgill@u.arizona.edu check it on the www, even though it sucks :(

quoted 5 lines I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it

> I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it > seems to me that an entire country is getting left out of the talking > here: the US. We do have some IDM labels, and I'd like to hear about > more. I mean, sure we have Reflective, Hardkiss, Sunburn, basically > anything coming out of San Francisco, but what else?

We could discuss Hardkiss here, but "IDM" refers to "Intelligent Dance Music", not "Intellectually Dishonest Miscreants". - Greg

Greg Earle writes: |>> I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it |>> seems to me that an entire country is getting left out of the talking |>> here: the US. We do have some IDM labels, and I'd like to hear about |>> more. I mean, sure we have Reflective, Hardkiss, Sunburn, basically |>> anything coming out of San Francisco, but what else? |> |>We could discuss Hardkiss here, but "IDM" refers to "Intelligent Dance Music", |>not "Intellectually Dishonest Miscreants". Hey, why not? Back it up. I'm actually in even hearing about that.

quoted 11 lines Greg Earle writes:

> Greg Earle writes: >>> I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it >>> seems to me that an entire country is getting left out of the talking >>> here: the US. We do have some IDM labels, and I'd like to hear about >>> more. I mean, sure we have Reflective, Hardkiss, Sunburn, basically >>> anything coming out of San Francisco, but what else? >> >> We could discuss Hardkiss here, but "IDM" refers to "Intelligent Dance >> Music", not "Intellectually Dishonest Miscreants". > > Hey, why not? Back it up. I'm actually in even hearing about that.

Ask Jon Drukman about the difference between whose name(s) appear on the credits of Hardkiss records vs. who actually did the work on them (i.e. made the music) sometime. (Or go rummaging through the IDM archives and find Jon's previous posts on the subject) - Greg

Greg Earle writes: |>> Greg Earle writes: |>>>> I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it |>>>> seems to me that an entire country is getting left out of the talking |>>>> here: the US. We do have some IDM labels, and I'd like to hear about |>>>> more. I mean, sure we have Reflective, Hardkiss, Sunburn, basically |>>>> anything coming out of San Francisco, but what else? |>>> |>>> We could discuss Hardkiss here, but "IDM" refers to "Intelligent Dance |>>> Music", not "Intellectually Dishonest Miscreants". |>> |>> Hey, why not? Back it up. I'm actually in even hearing about that. |> |>Ask Jon Drukman about the difference between whose name(s) appear on the |>credits of Hardkiss records vs. who actually did the work on them (i.e. made |>the music) sometime. |> |>(Or go rummaging through the IDM archives and find Jon's previous posts on |> the subject) Hell, I've discussed it with Drukman myself. But that's in the past, and Drukman is credited on the sleeves. He got ripped off, yeah, but time moves on and there are other things to discuss.

On Tue, 21 May 1996, Greg Earle wrote:

quoted 2 lines We could discuss Hardkiss here, but "IDM" refers to "Intelligent Dance Musi

> We could discuss Hardkiss here, but "IDM" refers to "Intelligent Dance Music", > not "Intellectually Dishonest Miscreants".

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On Mon, 20 May 1996, Andrew E Hime wrote:

quoted 6 lines I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it

> I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it > seems to me that an entire country is getting left out of the talking > here: the US. We do have some IDM labels, and I'd like to hear about > more. I mean, sure we have Reflective, Hardkiss, Sunburn, basically > anything coming out of San Francisco, but what else? >

Lots of good stuff comes out domestic. Touched on but not often highlighted on IDM is Detroit techno. Current standard bearers of the techno flag are Underground Resistance, Generator, and [help me out teep!]. Of course, Chicago House music will not die, and if nothing else has the rest of the world beat on the quantity tip. DJ Sneak must make 20 tracks a month, and Relief has to release 3 or 4 records a week. Going to Gramaphone in Chicago is a stone cold trip -- at any moment they probably have 1500 different House 12" in stock, and name DJ's spin in the booth for you. Is House Intelligent? It can be, and often is. Formulaic? Stupid? Sometimes. But oh man what a formula -- Chicago Hard House can move your body like nothing else. House music is 5000 years of dance music collapsed down to the booty-bumping eigenvectors. Other sites on the North American Tour -- Windsor -- across the border from Detroit, home of Richie Hawtin's Plus8. Milwaukee Wisconsin's Drop Bass Network has defined it's own style of Old Style addled hardcore (which IMHO usually sucks, but there are good records in the catalog). Minneapolis has a small but VERY creative scene. Freddy Fresh' Analog and Butterbeat labels are all over the map stylewise, but usually interesting and sometimes entertainingly bizarre. The Electric Music Foundation puts out an interesting variety of electronic and acid tracks, always on luscious colored vinyl. And Woody McBride's labels (Communique, Head in the Clouds) define a style of contemporary Acid and techno that is currently very popular in Europe. Hell, I know a bunch of people in IOWA trying to make tracks. Most of them just starting out, but interesting stuff. The focus on UK and European acts on IDM comes from the fact that in the UK electronic dance music and 'Intelligent' techno are part of the mainstream youth culture. This means that the penumbra of dance pop is large enough to hold Aphex Twin, Muziq, Autechre, et al. Here in the US, there are only a handful of people actually making a living recording electronic music on the IDM tip. There's also a streak of American Anglophilia at work here. 30 years ago we were buying Beatles and Rolling Stones records. 20 years ago we were watching Monty Python and buying Elvis Costello records. 10 years ago we were buying Human League records and watching Dr. Who. Now we're buying Autechre and watching Absolutely Fabulous. Factoid: They just brought a new Dr. Who online. Turns out, Dr. Who isn't even on TV in England any more -- they're making it for the US market now. I rest my case. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'When [mom is] asked what she thinks of God, she invariably says, "I don't worry about it." No doubt because she is worrying about the whereabouts of her keys.' -- Sean Williams Kent Williams kent@inav.net CADSI 2651 Crosspark Road Coralville IA 52241 (319) 338 6053 (home) (319) 626 6700 x 219 (work) (319) 626 3489 (fax)

quoted 2 lines House music is 5000 years of dance music collapsed down

> House music is 5000 years of dance music collapsed down > to the booty-bumping eigenvectors.

MAN! CLASSIC! This oughta go in SOMEBODY's .signature ... :-)

quoted 2 lines 20 years ago we were watching Monty Python and buying Elvis Costello

> 20 years ago we were watching Monty Python and buying Elvis Costello > records.

How about "20 years ago we were re-enacting Firesign Theatre skits and buying Ramones records"? :-) (Elvis' first album was in late '77)

quoted 1 line 10 years ago we were buying Human League records

> 10 years ago we were buying Human League records

We were? Somebody actually bought "Crash"? :-) "10 years ago I was buying Test Dept. records" - Greg

On Tue, 21 May 1996, Greg Earle wrote:

quoted 6 lines 20 years ago we were watching Monty Python and buying Elvis Costello

> > 20 years ago we were watching Monty Python and buying Elvis Costello > > records. > > How about "20 years ago we were re-enacting Firesign Theatre skits and buying > Ramones records"? :-) > (Elvis' first album was in late '77)

Uhh...you know what I mean. The Ramones don't illustrate the argument I was making, and '19 years' didn't have the same ring.

quoted 4 lines 10 years ago we were buying Human League records

> > > 10 years ago we were buying Human League records > > We were? Somebody actually bought "Crash"? :-)

I can't remember another mid-late 80's band that would illustrate the point. Modern English? Nik Kershaw? Simple Minds? --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'When [mom is] asked what she thinks of God, she invariably says, "I don't worry about it." No doubt because she is worrying about the whereabouts of her keys.' -- Sean Williams Kent Williams kent@inav.net CADSI 2651 Crosspark Road Coralville IA 52241 (319) 338 6053 (home) (319) 626 6700 x 219 (work) (319) 626 3489 (fax)