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> From: Tom Churchill <tom@chrchfam.demon.co.uk> > Subject: (idm) > > >From: Lars de Laat <llaat@coventry.ac.uk> > >Yesterday, after some serious hunting I managed to find a couple of > >Photek EPs. > >So if you're looking for some proper Jungle, as you will also find on the > >Plug series by mr. Vibert, you should definitely go and check out Photek. > >The records I found are ptk002-ptk006 on Photek and one EP on MetalHeadz. > > Also check out his releases as Aquarius on Good Looking/Looking Good, > and as Sentinel on Basement. Other artists in this vein you that you > should check include Source Direct/Sounds Of Life, J Majik, T Power, > Squarepusher and Hidden Agenda. There's loads of this stuff around... what stuff in this vein is available on cd? i keep hearing about plug, 2player, squarepusher & the like, but as far as i know they're all vinyl-only. i've got the following already: t-power `the self-evident truth...' spring heel jack `there are strings' subtropic `homebrew' (and they're all superb). i'm also aware of 4 hero `parallel universe' and the jacob's optical stairway disc. any further cd recommendations? what are the omni trio cds like? -- richard

ricu> any further cd recommendations? what are the omni trio cds ricu> like? Too many women singin' too my taste ... I'd stick to Luke Vibert, Photek, Jacob's Optical Stairway and this new (rather intrigueing) Squarepusher person ... Helen OnNow: JOS

Richard wrote:

quoted 3 lines what stuff in this vein is available on cd? i keep hearing about plug,

>what stuff in this vein is available on cd? i keep hearing about plug, >2player, squarepusher & the like, but as far as i know they're all >vinyl-only.

Plug s'posed to be coming out on a CD for the US market "soon". Check out the new SOUR comp New Skool Flava, for some wicked hiphop D+B Also, the Promised land comp, 2CDs one mixed by Bukem, the other unmixed. Squarepusher track on the Refried Food CD is f'in mad. There's a Good lookin comp, out soon. Never seen Parallel Universe on CD, but if anyone does pls let me know? Anyone stateside seen 4hero's Mr Kirk's Nightmare 96 mixes, on Smile? I want a copy. err errr there's loads more too, I'm too bz to think right now, but I'll let you know later. Oh, stay clear of the Desert Storm CD comps *all* the tracks are cut short totally pissed me off cos I bought the "intelligent" one for Horizons and Photek's Rain, and its fade out central... jeff

On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, Jeff Linacre wrote:

quoted 1 line Never seen Parallel Universe on CD, but if anyone does pls let me know?

> Never seen Parallel Universe on CD, but if anyone does pls let me know?

I've never seen it on vinyl ;-) The one I have SEL3 on Selector/Crammed (a belgian label) but is also (P) Reinforced. I don't know if Watts or Cargo ever imported this, but my copy has a sticker from World Music Distribution (415) 381 4117.

quoted 1 line Anyone stateside seen 4hero's Mr Kirk's Nightmare 96 mixes, on Smile?

> Anyone stateside seen 4hero's Mr Kirk's Nightmare 96 mixes, on Smile?

This is available from Watts -- they had vinyl copies in my local shop not long ago. Oh, its Jeff! Sorry -- US distributors aren't much use for you, innit? Umm...I don't know about imports going the other direction (to the UK). By the way I've not heard much, but Liquid Sky Records, has been putting out some US produced jungle, and they've just come out with a compilation CD. Someone who can check it out should post a report to IDM. Funny, does anyone remember when bringing up jungle on IDM got you scolded, and told to take it to the breaks list? ;-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new beauracracy -- Franz Kafka Kent Williams kent@inav.net (319) 338 6053 (home) (319) 626 6700 x 219 (work) (319) 626 3489 (fax)

kent wrote:

quoted 6 lines Anyone stateside seen 4hero's Mr Kirk's Nightmare 96 mixes, on Smile?

>> Anyone stateside seen 4hero's Mr Kirk's Nightmare 96 mixes, on Smile? >This is available from Watts -- they had vinyl copies in my local shop >not long ago. > >Oh, its Jeff! Sorry -- US distributors aren't much use for you, innit? >Umm...I don't know about imports going the other direction (to the UK).

dats right I'm a brit, yeah I heard this came out on Smile which is an NY label I believe and I haven't seen it around here.

quoted 4 lines By the way I've not heard much, but Liquid Sky Records, has been putting

> >By the way I've not heard much, but Liquid Sky Records, has been putting >out some US produced jungle, and they've just come out with a compilation >CD. Someone who can check it out should post a report to IDM.

yeah? go on someone, I'd be interested in reading that...

quoted 3 lines Funny, does anyone remember when bringing up jungle on IDM got you

> >Funny, does anyone remember when bringing up jungle on IDM got you >scolded, and told to take it to the breaks list? ;-)

yep me for one, I think I started a jungle sucks/doesn't barrage meself once but kept my head down. Guess I should take my d+b mutterings to breaks... but then I feel so cosy here :) jeff (Kent specific: did you send that DAT yet, cos the swede's living at ours now (all that hardware under my nose!) lettuce know if you want my address).

quoted 9 lines From: Richard Barnett <richard@wg.icl.co.uk>

>From: Richard Barnett <richard@wg.icl.co.uk> >what stuff in this vein is available on cd? i keep hearing about plug, >2player, squarepusher & the like, but as far as i know they're all >vinyl-only. >i've got the following already: > t-power `the self-evident truth...' > spring heel jack `there are strings' > subtropic `homebrew' >any further cd recommendations?

Apart from the 4 Hero/Jacobs you mentioned, there are a few others. Compilation-wise, 'Artcore' on React and 'Counterforce' on Internal are OK (but they're getting quite old now). 'Promised Land Volumes 1&2', mixed by Bukem and Fabio respectively could be worth checking, but I'd go for 'Revolutionary Generation' on Moving Shadow/Creative Wax, or better still, wait for 'Logical Progression' to come out. Here's a review I did for 'Finetime' magazine a couple of weeks ago... VARIOUS ARTISTS Logical Progression Part 1 Good Looking/FFRR Out April 8th (?) 'Logical Progression' indeed. The success of Goldie last year was to pave the way for artists like Photek and Alex Reece, who have both recently signed major deals, and it was only a matter of time before LTJ Bukem, surely the most important musician in the ambient jungle scene, would be snapped up too. This collection catalogues the highlights of Bukem's 'Good Looking' label, which for the last few years has been a consistent supplier of premium-grade breakbeat, providing the soundtrack to the pioneering 'Speed' night in London. Kicking off with the first release, Bukem's own 'Demon's Theme', the blueprint of the sound soon becomes apparent. Early gems such as Bukem's seminal 'Music' and 'Demon's Theme' rub shoulders with Link's 'Chameleon' and PFM's 'One And Only'. And it's here that the 'progression' in the title really becomes apparent. The contrast between the rougher, rawer early releases and the hi-tech polish of the more recent cuts is fascinating, illustrating the advances in techniques and technology that the scene has witnessed. From Peshay's soul diva cut-ups on 'Vocal Tune', to the sheer technical wizardry and electronic soul of Bukem's 'Cool Out', to Conrad's MC chat over PFM's 'Western', all bases are covered. Anyone still foolish enough to doubt the validity of jungle as a means of musical expression needs their horizons broadened. This is music made using machines, yet with all the soul and emotion of a million tedious guitar bands. If you're not yet tuned in to this revolutionary sound, there is no better place to start.

quoted 1 line what are the omni trio cds like?

>what are the omni trio cds like?

Not bad, but a little too hands-in-the-air dancefloor hedonism for my taste, lots of wailing divas and happy pianos, as Che mentioned... see ya ____________________________________________________ tom churchill e-mail: tom@chrchfam.demon.co.uk 'each new hour holds new chances for new beginnings' dj/musician/clubber/reviewer......scene but not herd ____________________________________________________

At 08:12 PM 3/19/96 +0000, tom wrote:

quoted 1 line what are the omni trio cds like?

>>what are the omni trio cds like?

quoted 2 lines Not bad, but a little too hands-in-the-air dancefloor hedonism for my

> Not bad, but a little too hands-in-the-air dancefloor hedonism for my >taste, lots of wailing divas and happy pianos, as Che mentioned...

i.e. Music For A New Millenium is the closest thing to diva house i have. i actually like it. so do local diva-house-heads!

quoted 1 line Anyone stateside seen 4hero's Mr Kirk's Nightmare 96 mixes, on Smile?

>>> Anyone stateside seen 4hero's Mr Kirk's Nightmare 96 mixes, on Smile?

Why bother? I bought Jacob's Optical Stairway and was SO impressed I could have imploded right there. Then I bought this 4 Hero Mr. Kirk single thing, for less than a dollar, because I'd heard that Dego et.al are 4 Hero. Egad, I thought, as to my utter terror I listened to the ultracliched protodancic shit of "Energize" mix, this is just, just- awful... one of those gimmicky sample house-esque shit mainstream "dance" tunes! Aargh! So I removed the tape form my car stereo, and threw it out the window at some minivan. However, I found "Parallel Universe" today, and got it, just to see, you know... and wow, almost imploded again... damn fine jungle stuff, just like JOS only slightly less refined, but... well, woweee. Thing is, I ponder to this day: how does the wonderous jungle creations of 4 Hero get mutated into the utterly non-jungle, non-jazzy, non-intelligent, and, dare I say it, non-musical shit techno of that Mr. Kirk single? God, someone should do something about this, before the trend continues and we find AFX tunes being overlaid with diva vocals, hi hats, plain ole undistorted 4/4 beats, thier musical guts replaced by two note plain synthy happidanci riffs, and marketed to the masses as such... God, what a nightmare... oh, the humanity....

On Wed, 20 Mar 1996, Sugatis wrote:

quoted 7 lines Anyone stateside seen 4hero's Mr Kirk's Nightmare 96 mixes, on Smile?

> >>> Anyone stateside seen 4hero's Mr Kirk's Nightmare 96 mixes, on Smile? > > Then I bought this 4 Hero Mr. Kirk single thing, > for less than a dollar, because I'd heard that Dego et.al are 4 Hero. Egad, > I thought, as to my utter terror I listened to the ultracliched protodancic > shit of "Energize" mix, this is just, just- awful... one of those gimmicky > sample house-esque shit mainstream "dance" tunes!

Mr. Kirks Nightmare is famous early hardcore track. DJ DB has a weakness for this stuff -- that's why he brought out a disk with remixes of 'Bomb Scare' by 2Bad Mice in 94. If you're looking for new trippy jungle I can understand your disappointment. To the extent that Jungle grew out of the hardcore scene (and included some of the same players -- Rob Playford, Dego, et al) it's a historical document. But feel free to throw it at minivans if it makes you feel better. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new beauracracy -- Franz Kafka Kent Williams kent@inav.net (319) 338 6053 (home) (319) 626 6700 x 219 (work) (319) 626 3489 (fax)

quoted 1 line what's the name of the JOS release?

>what's the name of the JOS release?

It is called "Jacob's Optical Stairway" (that's it, self titled). Buy it NOW, it is the earthly manifestation of godhood; real jazzy stuff with really intricate beats and structures (the tempo change in track 2 on side 3 makes me go nuts). Available on cd even. Also get 4 Hero's "parallel Universe" full length cd; it's alot like JOS.

quoted 1 line is it anything like a guy called gerald's "black secret technology"?

>is it anything like a guy called gerald's "black secret technology"?

Errm... well, Gerald's things are prety good, but like goldie's stuff there are too many shamelessly screaming dance divas for my taste. JOS is much more on the jazzy, funky, wacko side of the spectrum, though the rhythm programming, like Gerald's, is first-rate.