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quoted 108 lines Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 18:23:35 +0000 (GMT)

>Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 18:23:35 +0000 (GMT) > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > The Black Dog's > ===================== > N E W S - L E T T E R > >Dear people of the net, thanks for keeping faith in >this year, despite all the 'anti-publicity'. It's >definately not 'all over' here in London. I've been >busy producing new stuff, which you will hopefully >all get to hear soon. The recruiting drive is going >well, and hopefully the dog will be out on the road >later on in the summer. With live drum and bass. > >Here's a taster.. > >--------------------------------------------------------- >Music for Adverts (and Short films) >=================================== >The new album by 'The Black Dog' is finished! > >Master DAT will be delivered to warp records on the 25th >of march. They reckon it will be three months after that, >before they can release it. We feel that's too long. > >"Hurry up and release it!!!!!!!" faxes would be welcomed. > >Warp Records fax : +44 (0)114 281 2002 > >--------------------------------------------------------- >The Babylon Project >=================== >A project calling for peace in the middle east. To >unite and solve our problems in friendship, before >the end of the world. > >Featuring the delectable vocals of Ofra Haza. > >The Belly Mix - Arabic mix, done by the Black Dog, which > will hopefully be given away free on the > net. Advice on compression techniques is > welcome! > >We have mixes from a number (8) of friends/collaborators, >and have poured loads of our creative energies into this >project. It will blow many techno pretenders, out of the >water. We are not boasting. 1996 is the year of the dog! > >More info: tbd@feedback.com > >--------------------------------------------------------- >Graphics/Realities >================== >Ken has had to suspend work on the BDP video, and most >of the 3d imaging since the split, and concentrate on >his music. Research on techniques of world building is >still going on, though we haven't got the budget to do >anything 'serious' with it yet. Everyone is learning. > >The Black Dog mu system is taking shape, and we will be >calling for LPC wizards to come and help us out soon. The >high cost of a leased line, precludes us getting connected >to the net from the start, so we're looking at getting it >connected with dialup landlines at first. > >As stated in 1989, the majority of any income from record >sales, will be ploughed into research for FREE networking >technologies. A friendly haven in a corporate cyberspace. > >So many artists, sell out, and get a mortgage, or get a >"personal wealth" habit, that they expect you 'the fan' >to pay for. Nothing like that goes on here. > >--------------------------------------------------------- >The "Free Tibet" album >====================== >As you have probably noticed, some artists have chosen to >look at china as a new market, and even play gigs there. > >The Black Dog feels this is deplorable. > >China has one of the most appalling records for human rights >on the planet, and is subsequently being boycotted by Black >Dog Productions. > >We know not to tar a nation with it's government's brush, but feel >that tibet is ignored, because it lacks the wealthy oil resources >of kuwait. > >To draw attention to the plight of tibetans, the Black Dog is >going to record a 'Free Tibet' album, and rally ethical ravers. > >--------------------------------------------------------- >There is more, much more, but that's enough for now.. >Thanks for your time and patience, >A big wag of the tail to ya.. > > + . /\___/\ . * | < The Black Dog > | + * . . * . > . * (. .) + | | . * . * + > ___ooO__\-/__Ooo___ | | + + + + . > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ | Dogma >> | http://www.feedback.com/tbd > (Dis)information > | tbd@feedback.com > > > >

aran@mit.edu po box 581 cambridge,ma 02142 USA

On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, from the Black Dog Newsletter

quoted 13 lines The Babylon Project

>The Babylon Project >=================== >A project calling for peace in the middle east. To >unite and solve our problems in friendship, before >the end of the world. > >... >The "Free Tibet" album >====================== >... >To draw attention to the plight of tibetans, the Black Dog is >going to record a 'Free Tibet' album, and rally ethical ravers. >

Great. Nothing kills art so quickly as an agenda. Is this what Ken meant by "Important Music" in that mail during the Dog/Plaid tour snafu last year? If so, my eager-meter will be turned down by a notch or two. Maybe this is why Ed and Andy *really* split. jmar! zing! | J M R T N K O | fonstrosities and other toys by ILLGBLITY ENGNRING. | | D S G N E T C | JOHN-A MARTINKO, w. desk chief martinko@netcom.com |

quoted 1 line So who is in Black Dog now? The originals, or just Ken?

>So who is in Black Dog now? The originals, or just Ken?

Ken Downie plus some new recruits, a drummer and a bass player i believe :o Cheers, Hans ____ _ _ ___ ___ __ ____ Hans Veneman (_ _)( \/ )___ / _ \/ _ \ ___ /__\ ( _ \ hansv@tip.nl )( \ /(___)\_ /\_ /(___)/(__)\ )(_) ) tv99ad@xs4all.nl (__) \/ (_/ (_/ (__)(__)(____/ +31 (0)320 235266 http://www.xs4all.nl/~tv99ad----------------------------------->

"JMRTNKO! please stand by..." <martinko@netcom.com>

quoted 1 line Great. Nothing kills art so quickly as an agenda.

>Great. Nothing kills art so quickly as an agenda.

Can you elaborate on that concept, I'm not quite able to digest it. BURP. In my opinion, so long as (true) art exists in this world, being influenced by or attempting to bring about awareness to *anything* (and I mean that) is simply an inevitable art by product. Certainly an agenda is not a prerequisite to art (and by no means makes it instantly legitimate), but what's the difference between >>me making 3 different mix tapes to place into 3 different tape covers which steal and alter 3 different album covers and >>some guy writing an LP's worth of music to bring about awareness?

quoted 1 line Maybe this is why Ed and Andy *really* split.

>Maybe this is why Ed and Andy *really* split.

Maybe you are wrong? Teep<--eager meter up two knotches in anticipation of some 'rally time'

quoted 1 line Can you elaborate on that concept, I'm not quite able to digest it. BURP.

> Can you elaborate on that concept, I'm not quite able to digest it. BURP.

Hmmm...there's probably a reason why there exists on the one hand fictional books (poems, novels, short-stories) and on the other hand non-fictional (essays, academic litterature etc.). The moment a novel, or in this case a piece of music, decides to become explicit in the sense that they choose one specific political theme (Bosnia, Tibet...), there is a clear & present danger (heh!) that the theme takes control over the piece of art itself. It becomes so important for the artist to "save the world" that he or she looses sight for what art really should be (in my and, if I understand him correctly, Harold Blooms opinion): source for insight, and not a microphone for a capital-letter manifesto. Simplification (but still part of my point): Why did Sartre and Foucault participate in rallies and protest-marches? They were both very competent (!) writers, so wouldn't a book be enough to put the wrongs into rights?

quoted 1 line and >>some guy writing an LP's worth of music to bring about awareness?

> and >>some guy writing an LP's worth of music to bring about awareness?

I'm not condoning (sp?) anyone's sincere intentions, it's just their means to their ends I'm doubting. When you copy or put together your mix tapes, you're not politically motivated in doing do so. When Black Dog decides to make music about Tibet, they're focusing their music towards one specific, political agenda. They stand the *risk* of Tibet standing in the way of their music, you don't. I decided to join Amnesty International instead of making some kind of musical statement about prisoners of conscience. This is my way of doing things, others have other ways. If they think music or art in general is the way to do it, fine; I don't. Think about it: How many people do you know who's actually been motivated to act after listening to a piece of music or reading a novel? And how many people listening to music does *not* know about Tibet?

quoted 1 line Teep<--eager meter up two knotches in anticipation of some 'rally time'

> Teep<--eager meter up two knotches in anticipation of some 'rally time'

Looks like the heat is on. /Oivind Idso/

tp>>Can you elaborate on that concept, I'm not quite able to digest it. BURP. "Oh, I see." <OIVIND-I@gribb.hsr.no> O>[cut cut] O>the theme takes control over the piece of art itself. It becomes so O>important for the artist to "save the world" that he or she looses O>sight for what art really should be Absolutely, but all Ken posted was that he plans to (among other projects) kick up some dust and hopefully remind everyone that thier eyes are wide open. O>[cut cut] O>so wouldn't a book be enough to put the O>wrongs into rights? Indeed from the sounds of it you would agree, it's simply not *enough* to just write/create etc because you believe in something stong enough that you want to make progress. I bet Sartre and Foucault realized that much as well. You really do need to get your hands dirty if you ever really want to make a significant contribution. If you spend all your time wanking on some keyboard about a problem it really won't do a damned thing. But if the goal is awareness, art's a legitimate enough forum to handle something that simple. I guess that's my point.

quoted 1 line When Black Dog decides to make music about Tibet,

>When Black Dog decides to make music about Tibet,

Right but I don't think Ken stated it was music "about Tibet" as much as it was a release to raise awareness about Tibet. Maybe I'm wrong in assuming there is a difference. I just refuse to dismiss the idea without being more informed.

quoted 1 line Looks like the heat is on.

>Looks like the heat is on.

No heat! Heck I'm not even red in the cheeks, this is what we're supposed to do right! Thanks for your reply! Teep

At 14:14 16/03/96 -0500, you wrote:

quoted 1 line Music for Adverts (and Short films)

>>Music for Adverts (and Short films)

Is indeed The Black Dog's next album. g.