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2000-01-26 21:45Rishi SaezI agree some of the older Public Enemy stuff kicks ass. I also can appreciate Das Efx and

From:: Rishi Saez <fleshpile@hotmail.com>
To:: <shephrd@earthlink.net>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Cc:: <entropy887@hotmail.com>
Date:: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:45:59 PST
Subject:: Re: (idm) Public Enemy (was Re: rap/noise... not nessisarily involving hip hop.. "Intelligent")

I agree some of the older Public Enemy stuff kicks ass. I also can appreciate Das Efx and Fu-Schnickens, as well as some NWA. I don't particularly care for rap but those few albums are pretty cool.

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>From: Michael Shepherd <shephrd@earthlink.net> >To: idm <idm@hyperreal.org> >CC: <entropy887@hotmail.com> >Subject: (idm) Public Enemy (was Re: rap/noise... not nessisarily involving >hip hop.. "Intelligent") >Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:05:52 -0800 > >Probably not what you are looking for, but I couldn't help but think of >some >of the OLD Public Enemy lps such as It Takes a Nation of Millions and Fear >of a Black Planet. You asked for angry, but intelligent lyrics over noisy >but well-produced music that's agressive, complex, angry and full of >ENERGY. That sounds exactly like the old Public Enemy to me. > >Chuck D, Hank, and Keith Shocklee of the Bomb Squad were so ahead of their >time back then. They wanted their music to be as noisy, loud, and angry as >possible. Hence, song titles such as Bring the Noise and songs that used >noises such as Rebel Without a Pause and Brothers Gonna Work It Out. When I >first heard Rebel Without a Pause I thought "What the hell is that sound >they keep looping? A tea kettle whistle?" > >If for no other reason, I just had to mention Public Enemy out of respect. >Rage Against the Machine wouldn't even exist if there was never a PE. >-- >shephrd@earthlink.net | "...thita NK;" >"...mechanically reclaimed by autechre..." > > > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:11:19 PST > > To: idm@hyperreal.org > > From: "Alex ..." <entropy887@hotmail.com> > > Subject: rap/noise... not nessisarily involving hip hop.. "Intelligent" > > Message-ID: <20000125171119.91825.qmail@hotmail.com> > > > > I was wondering if anyone can give me some suggestions? > > I've really had a craving for some rap vocals with different types of >music, > > more specifically something really noisy, experimental rap over > > noise/experimental music. Or maybe something like phthalo with rap. > > something really dark and well produced, musically and lyrically. > > > > I'm also looking for some really angry music, maybe even with >vocals(maybe > > not), but "intelligent" (lyrically and musically, if lyrics are >involved) > > not like any atari teenage riot stuff.. something really really good, >but > > agressive, ENERGY, complex and angry. > > > > suggestions? > > thanks > > alex > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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2000-01-27 07:05Michael ShepherdProbably not what you are looking for, but I couldn't help but think of some of the OLD Pu

From:: Michael Shepherd <shephrd@earthlink.net>
To:: idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Cc:: <entropy887@hotmail.com>
Date:: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:05:52 -0800
Subject:: (idm) Public Enemy (was Re: rap/noise... not nessisarily involving hip hop.. "Intelligent")

Probably not what you are looking for, but I couldn't help but think of some of the OLD Public Enemy lps such as It Takes a Nation of Millions and Fear of a Black Planet. You asked for angry, but intelligent lyrics over noisy but well-produced music that's agressive, complex, angry and full of ENERGY. That sounds exactly like the old Public Enemy to me. Chuck D, Hank, and Keith Shocklee of the Bomb Squad were so ahead of their time back then. They wanted their music to be as noisy, loud, and angry as possible. Hence, song titles such as Bring the Noise and songs that used noises such as Rebel Without a Pause and Brothers Gonna Work It Out. When I first heard Rebel Without a Pause I thought "What the hell is that sound they keep looping? A tea kettle whistle?" If for no other reason, I just had to mention Public Enemy out of respect. Rage Against the Machine wouldn't even exist if there was never a PE. -- shephrd@earthlink.net | "...thita NK;" "...mechanically reclaimed by autechre..."

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> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:11:19 PST > To: idm@hyperreal.org > From: "Alex ..." <entropy887@hotmail.com> > Subject: rap/noise... not nessisarily involving hip hop.. "Intelligent" > Message-ID: <20000125171119.91825.qmail@hotmail.com> > > I was wondering if anyone can give me some suggestions? > I've really had a craving for some rap vocals with different types of music, > more specifically something really noisy, experimental rap over > noise/experimental music. Or maybe something like phthalo with rap. > something really dark and well produced, musically and lyrically. > > I'm also looking for some really angry music, maybe even with vocals(maybe > not), but "intelligent" (lyrically and musically, if lyrics are involved) > not like any atari teenage riot stuff.. something really really good, but > agressive, ENERGY, complex and angry. > > suggestions? > thanks > alex > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------

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2000-01-26 20:27wellsbah. rage wouldn't exist if there was never an inside out. no.... spiritual.. surrreender!

From:: wells <s0ewoliv@vcu.edu>
To:: Michael Shepherd <shephrd@earthlink.net>, idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Cc:: <entropy887@hotmail.com>
Date:: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:27:52 -0500
Subject:: RE: (idm) Public Enemy (was Re: rap/noise... not nessisarily involving hiphop.. "Intelligent")
Reply to:: (idm) Public Enemy (was Re: rap/noise... not nessisarily involving hip hop.. "Intelligent")

bah. rage wouldn't exist if there was never an inside out. no.... spiritual.. surrreender!!! (okay, off topic.) - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@vcu.edu "If you make me look bad, I swear to God, I'll never talk to you again."

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> -----Original Message----- > > If for no other reason, I just had to mention Public Enemy out of respect. > Rage Against the Machine wouldn't even exist if there was never a PE. > --

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