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1. the other night i was listening to an old cd of mine, the first Gang Starr album _No More Mr. Nice Guy_ and i heard one of the most sublime tracks,which i had forgotten about for a while. has anyone on this list ever heard "DJ Premie r in Deep Concentration"? that is an amazing track... far better than any thing i've heard in the new "trip-hop" bloom. does anyone know of similar tracks, engaging instrumental hip-hop produced before such stuff became trendy? i think perhaps MC900ft. Jesus "Shut Up" qualifies also, though that's in a different vein. 1a. obidm: autechre ripped off "Deep concentration". well, they used the same piano loop. Gang Starr's is far better, IMO. 2. Do Children of the Bong indeed have a new full-length out? Anyone heard it , have reviews/opinions? Are they funk-influenced at all, or am i thinking of a completely different group? -Nick

On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Nick Yoder wrote:

quoted 5 lines 1. the other night i was listening to an old cd of mine, the first Gang Starr

> 1. the other night i was listening to an old cd of mine, the first Gang Starr > album _No More Mr. Nice Guy_ and i heard one of the most sublime tracks,which i > had forgotten about for a while. has anyone on this list ever heard "DJ Premie > r in Deep Concentration"? that is an amazing track... far better than any thing > i've heard in the new "trip-hop" bloom. does anyone know of similar tracks,

Guru's solo records (volumes one and two) are further explorations into melding jazz and hip hop. BTW, Guru is the rapper behind Gangstar. I think other albums that really foreshadow a lot of what's hot right now would include Eric B and Rakim's _Follow the Leader_ (incredible groove on the title track, IMHO) as well as the first Digable Planets release. Dave OnNow: System fans. .------------------------------------------dave.manning@dreamland.unomaha.edu | "There is no other reality dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu | but our own...." dmanning@synergy.net .-------------------------------------------- dgmanning@aol.com

On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Nick Yoder wrote:

quoted 2 lines 1a. obidm: autechre ripped off "Deep concentration". well, they used the same

> 1a. obidm: autechre ripped off "Deep concentration". well, they used the same > piano loop. Gang Starr's is far better, IMO.

If you're referring to the loop in - d'oh, can't remember the name - the track from 'Incunabula' that was put on the 'Headz' compilation, that's apparently a Miles Davis sample, so they both "ripped off" that. How can you listen to this kind of music and complain about "rip offs", anyway? Michael ______________________________________________________________________________ "If I wasn't a giant cheese, I'd make you pay for that remark." scrot@sans.vuw.ac.nz (Michael Upton) - Pink and the Brain ______________________________________________________________________________

quoted 2 lines 1a. obidm: autechre ripped off "Deep concentration". well, they used

> 1a. obidm: autechre ripped off "Deep concentration". well, they used > the same piano loop. Gang Starr's is far better, IMO.

nick, which autechre track? curious, Teep on now: gang starr - just to get a rep (instrumental) which btw, has a sample that's used in "spotlight" (aphex twin mix) but i'm sure neither kids can claim ownership which is most likely the case with the above. i digress.