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I just rejoined the list, so I don't know if this is common knowledge or not, but Nine Inch Nails' new release of remixes entitled "Further Down The Spiral" (only $7.99 for the CD!) has a track called "At The Heart Of It All," and the credit on the track reads "created by the Aphex Twin." It definitely sounds like RDJ, and coincidentally, not like any Nine Inch Nails track at all. (Wonder how that happened. :-) It's *very* good, but I wouldn't necessarily pay $7.99 for it if you don't like NIN. (Half of another track on the CD is also "created by the Aphex Twin" and it's also quite good, though not as good as "Heart.") The track would fit very well on _I_Care_. - Adam J Weitzman Individual, Inc. weitzman@individual.com "All I ask of myself is that I hold together." - Ned's Atomic Dustbin

I went to get this in town yesterday (I also happen to like people like Coil and Jim Thirlwell) only to find that it's only available on CD, not even on tape. Why do labels do this? I know some people don't like vinyl as a format and that's fine, that's their opinion. The problem is that I don't have a CD player so it's pretty much useless to me, unless I go and pester someone. All that happens is that those of who don't buy CDs, and you must admit we're entitled to our opinion, can't listen to this music. Why set out to exclude part of your audience? It's not as if other NIN is only available on CD. Sorry for the rant. Lots of love Tim One of the least common things in the world today is: common sense.

Mark Kolmar wrote:

quoted 5 lines I guess what I'm saying is, don't let the record company folks stop you

>I guess what I'm saying is, don't let the record company folks stop you >from listening to what you want to hear merely because they don't issue it >on the format you prefer. Buy a CD player -- not a crap one either (if >you want a good one at a low price, go with a Sony) -- and keep buying >vinyl if that's what you generally prefer.

I probably will end up getting a CD player. It's not really worth it right now, I have about 10 CDs and about 300 tapes and god knows how much vinyl. The main thing that really pisses me off though is that someone somewhere, probably some fat, money-grubbing, middle-aged fuckwit who probably knows nothing about music, decides one day that vinyl isn't a viable format. Why does everyone have to follow fashion. I just don't appreciate these decisions being made for me. Well, it seems to me there's very little I can do, short of fire bombing people like Sony and Philips. Lots of love Tim One of the least common things in the world today is: common sense.

If I were suddenly to move into some bizarro world where everything only comes out on flexi-disc and 8-track, that would not stop me from listening to music. The reason the companies don't want to deal with vinyl comes down to two words: defects and weight. They ship vinyl to your local megastore, the store sells it to the consumer, he gets it home and it's warped. He brings it back to the shop, the shop gives him another and puts the warped one in the back room. At some point the shop sorts out the defects by distributor and ships them back. CDs weigh less and not as many are returned. It's too bad, but that's economics. I really liked it around '87 when you could buy LP or CD of most titles, LP for maybe $8.99, CD for maybe $13.99. Of course that CD only cost $2 to make but I am not going to tackle that subject now. On Sun, 4 Jun 1995, Tim Fothergill wrote:

quoted 9 lines Mark Kolmar wrote:

> Mark Kolmar wrote: > > >I guess what I'm saying is, don't let the record company folks stop you > >from listening to what you want to hear merely because they don't issue it > >on the format you prefer. Buy a CD player -- not a crap one either (if > > The main thing that really pisses me off though is that someone somewhere, probably > some fat, money-grubbing, middle-aged fuckwit who probably knows nothing about music, > decides one day that vinyl isn't a viable format. Why does everyone have to follow

quoted 3 lines If I were suddenly to move into some bizarro world where everything only

>If I were suddenly to move into some bizarro world where everything only >comes out on flexi-disc and 8-track, that would not stop me from >listening to music.

It wouldn't stop me from listening to music either, I just wouldn't be very happy about it and do my best to change it rather than giving up and letting the multinationals having their way without a fight.

quoted 7 lines The reason the companies don't want to deal with vinyl comes down to two

>The reason the companies don't want to deal with vinyl comes down to two >words: defects and weight. They ship vinyl to your local megastore, the >store sells it to the consumer, he gets it home and it's warped. He >brings it back to the shop, the shop gives him another and puts the warped >one in the back room. At some point the shop sorts out the defects by >distributor and ships them back. CDs weigh less and not as many are >returned.

I have to say that your vinyl distributers must be real fuckwits, I've never had a record warped, cetainly not to the extent where I thought I should take it back. As for the weight thing, I can see that, but that doesn't make them more expensive. In the UK CDs are about 1.5 the price of vinyl and cassette, shipping of heavier and bulkier product obviously doesn't figure that highly. Lots of love Tim One of the least common things in the world today is: common sense.