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From:
Dave Manning
To:
Brian Behlendorf
Cc:
- Greg Earle , ,
Date:
Mon, 30 May 1994 18:21:06 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:
Re: IDM Comp [was: New Thread!]
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<Pine.3.05.9405301805.B9574-c100000@cwis.unomaha.edu>
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On Mon, 30 May 1994, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
quoted 6 lines Okay, here's the scoop. I would LOVE to do this. (btw, my vote definitely> Okay, here's the scoop. I would LOVE to do this. (btw, my vote definitely > goes with the title "Threads"). A few problems: first off, disk space is > becoming more of a scarcity at t.s.e., but this may change fairly soon. > Secondly, the audio format technology is *almost* there, but not quite, to > make this acceptible. What is acceptible in my mind? 44.1 khtz 16.bit > stereo that can fit into something on the scale of a megabyte a minute.
Or approximately 10:1 lossless compression - which isn't something I know is readily available in any format.
quoted 5 lines Supposedly MPEG audio has this capability, but until there are *free*> Supposedly MPEG audio has this capability, but until there are *free* > (freeware or shareware) converters, and players (no, converting to .au > does not count) this isn't something we should back. ADPCM supposedly > holds promise too (Francois I'll get back to you soon) but it needs to > be held to the same standards. 22.1 Khtz *might* be acceptible.
I'd disagree here. Anyone contributing to this comp will want their own work to sound as good to us as it does to them, right off DAT or whatever. Still assuming a 10:1 compression at 22.1, you're still looking at 500K per minute, which for even a 60-minute compilation, is still big ticket for anyone without a dedicated T1, which could do it in about 10 minutes. For those of us suffering with campus networks that can *maybe* hit a tenth of a T1 to the desktop, you're looking a couple of hours.
quoted 5 lines Anyways,> Anyways, > once these problems get resolved, this will definitely be something we > can do. I suppose for now we can put the complete songs online in .au > format (not just samples because the musicians will themselves be putting > it online). Bandwidth is still a consideration for many, too.
But do-able. Knowing what we know (or some of us know, anyway) about the RMI CD debacle, would there be any interest in getting this thing pressed? Dave :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu:::::::: :: "What I got in my head you can't buy, steal or borrow..." :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::--Primal Scream::::::::::::