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From:
Tai Nguyen
Date:
Fri, 25 Feb 1994 15:58:40 -0500
Subject:
the point of FSOL/AFX bashing...
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For some meaningless philosophical arguments, read below. For the point of FSOL/AFX bashing, skip to the next section... I must admit that I did my best to start arguments about how FSOL and AFX suck. The reason I brought up these two specific groups is that it seemed to me as though everyone treated them as gods on this list, and I had never heard anything but praise about them. For me, this was indicative of a Emeperor's New Clothes syndrome (as someone on alt.rave aptly described it) or a Pygmalion Effect. I have always tried to avoid being labelled because I believe labels limit your own personality; when you try to define yourself, you begin to live by your definitions rather than having the definitions be a description of how you live. For example, when I first became interested in techno music, I thought that 'good' techno consisted of nothing more than The Movement "Jump". I simply hadn't been exposed to all this underground stuff. I have some friends who at that time had very similar tastes to mine (technopop swill and the like). However, the longer I was on this list, the more my opinions of music began to change from theirs, even though I let them listen to all the 'new' techno I bought. Why was this? I exposed them to new stuff yet my tastes started diverging from theirs. The reason was that a day didn't go by where I didn't hear you guys talking about how good this "intelligent" techno was and as a result I began to believe it myself. I thought this was what was happening with FSOL, AFX, and a few other groups discussed on this list. People thought they were gods mostly because everyone else said they were gods and this perpetuated a cycle which resulted in an Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome rather than deep thought. <<<The point of FSOL/AFX bashing in a nutshell>>> Everyone treats FSOL, AFX, and a few other groups like gods. I questioned their divinity because I thought it would be very healthy for people to reexamine their own consciousness. Did they like FSOL/AFX because they were truly innovative, or were they claiming that they were innovative because everyone said they were gods and therefore their stuff _had_ to be innovative by definition? I never meant it to degenerate into a stupid shouting match. I think everyone should think about the question posed, and I am sure that after you meditate on it, you will realize that music is 100% subjective. Not mostly, not a lot, but 100%. Here's something else totally unrelated musically but very related philosophically for everyone to meditate on - there is no such thing as an absolute right or wrong. peace out. ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "These are not my figures I'm quoting. They're |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| from someone who knows what he's talking about." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - unknown congressman in debate |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:)