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From:
Aaron Grier
Date:
Sun, 6 Feb 1994 18:00:35 -800 (PST)
Subject:
Re: Vinyl vs Cd
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On Fri, 4 Feb 1994, Harvey Thornburg wrote:
quoted 12 lines tfinn wrote:> tfinn wrote: > > > Digital will ALWAYS be an approximation of our analog world. Else it > > ceases to be sampling -- it will be copying, and it will be analog. > > But if ideal sampling occurs satisfying the Nyquist criterion, and > quantization occurs to a point beyond our ability to discern information, > then to us (in the experiential realm) what's the difference? I guess we > are left with the old question about if a tree falls in the forest, and no > one is around to hear it, does it make a sound. Whatever. > > the Nyquist criterion is your friend...
But then you come down to resolution... Even if a CD can capture everything we can hear, the resolution still leaves a bit to be desired. Now if someone were to introduce a better format, a format that went beyond the limits of human hearing (which 16 bits does not) I couldn't complain except on intangible grounds. (like FEELING and stuff like that.)
quoted 5 lines Analog synths, like any other "analog" instrument such as the violin or> Analog synths, like any other "analog" instrument such as the violin or > piano, have _dynamically indeterminate_ outputs. All the imperfections in > an analog system change unpredictably over time, and are often nonlinear. > This generates in the listener a feeling of warmth, of "naturalness", of > flow.
Yeah -- exactly. For instance, the crosstalk between circuit boards on a Moog have to add to its overall sound somehow.
quoted 5 lines [stuff deleted]> [stuff deleted] > filters (preferably with feedback) that incorporate nonstationary > _stochastic_ elements, one can hope to approximate the wonders of the analog > world. One way to do this is to incorporate human feedback. At least this > is my theory - no time to implement it :(
I like it... Howzabout making a little bleep box -- a simple synthesizer with a filter? I'm going to have to make one in the future. :)
quoted 2 lines I just wish that as the music gets more "biomorphic" (how I consider Black> I just wish that as the music gets more "biomorphic" (how I consider Black > Dog, B12, etc.) the synthesis techniques will also.
Gotta pick these up and give 'um a listen. tfinn@crash.cts.com (Preferred) The Finn/ VLA