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From:
Chork the Jangler
To:
Dennis DeSantis
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Date:
Wed, 7 Dec 2005 00:28:32 -0500
Subject:
Re: [idm] Student of Electronic Music requests help
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but it is easier for a cookie-cutter wanker to flourish in these environments than it would be if they were left to their own devices -- a sort of musical darwinisim is perhaps what i suggest as the ideal here. it's easier for someone only partly interested in music to keep making music with the hopes of being an IDM star if they're enrolled in an expensive 4 year program, when i think it'd be best for music IN GENERAL if these people lost interest and sold their gear at the first sign of boringness (certainly it's not the best case for the individual) it's like, if you had a garden that was excellent at growing the weaker seeds of one type of rare and exotic plant, but was also a haven for weeds and termites to 3 times the extent of a random clearing in the forest, would it be worth growing that one type of plant when it is just as possible for the heartiest of those special seeds to take root and grow without your help? i suggest that in some cases yes, but in most, sadly not. and yes, this is a shitty analogy, feel free to flame me about that. one more point:
quoted 3 lines But there were also> But there were also > plenty of genuinely creative people who were there to meet other > genuinely creative people and get more technique.
you don't need to pay tuition to meet creative people -- in fact the most inspiringly creative people i've met would probably sneer in derision at a school for making the type of music they did (i.e. punk school or something, kwim?) also, the inference could be drawn that i'm biased against music schools having never had the chance to go to one when i was starving for knowledge. i'll say this though, i wouldn't do it differently than i did if i had the chance, i think! On 12/7/05, Dennis DeSantis <dennis@dennisdesantis.com> wrote:
quoted 38 lines Chork the Jangler wrote:> Chork the Jangler wrote: > > > i'm also of the slightly controversial opinion that anyone who goes to > > music school will make music school music first. there is more > > potential for creativity in chaos than in structured learning. there's > > a glut of glitch-by-numbers and wanky aphex ripoff IDM out there -- > > this goes for all genres. we don't need to turn making music into the > > sort of brain factories that our diseased public schools are. > > There's certainly the potential for this to be true at a lot of music > schools, but by no means all. > I've done the music school route three times and the culture at each > place was dramatically different than all of the others. Yes, there > were "music school music" people at all of them. But there were also > plenty of genuinely creative people who were there to meet other > genuinely creative people and get more technique. > > My comments aren't actually meant as a flame or a challenge to your > statement - as I said, I think you're (sadly) right in many cases. But > as someone who's been in the trenches and emerged with (I hope) some > semblance of voice and integrity, I can say that's it's not all > cookie-cutter wankery. > > > -- > Dennis DeSantis > www.dennisdesantis.com > > > Mailing List: > list-subscribe@lists.dennisdesantis.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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