quoted 7 lines It's been spoken about a lot here, actually. I came to IDM by way of>It's been spoken about a lot here, actually. I came to IDM by way of
>industrial. IDM owes some allegiance to industrial but only marginally,
>imo. Except, perhaps, the aforementioned ebm sound or artists like Coil
>and maybe even Clock DVA. Most "true" industrial like TG, SPK, Merzbow,
>etc. are just too abrasive/dissonant compared to the sound of quote-unquote
>IDM. Except for maybe Autechre's more atonal moments. I suppose
>industrial was an influence, but IDM isn't a direct descendent.
I think it would depend on which album you checked out.. as mentioned
earlier, TG had a fair amount of melodic material that was overlooked - and
if you subtract the effect of a hostile crowd, then there are some really
great things. There's this idea that industrial is related to
factory/machinery sounds - but the whole concept behind the label was to get
people thinking about the music 'industry' as such... a factory that grinds
out popstars. This is probably more true now than ever before. As far as
'true' industrial goes - Clock DVA's earliest material was released on
Industrial Records (as was some of Richard H. Kirk's) - so I'm assuming
you're refering to 'industrial' as the term was mistakenly applied, rather
than how it was originally intended (as a statement, not a description).
Clock DVA (and the numerous side projects of Newton - specifically those
involving McKenzie) do merit special mention. Not so much with the jazzier
material (or maybe the jazzier stuff *is* more important - especially in
light of the importance of time signature play in a lot of idm. I'm not
talking about Time Out... Thelonius Monk is what I'm driving at- sorry,
tangent, back to the point...). Once you've reached the Buried Dreams-era
things get very interesting (see: The Unseen, The Act [the instrumental
version, in particular] and b-sides like Connection Machine and Sonology Of
Sex)... TAGC's rhythmic contribution to Hafler Trio's Masturbatorium is
really nice (and can be heard sans Annie Sprinkle on the Psychophysicists
album). The bulk of these releases also feature some of the most absurdly
detailed liner notes I've ever encountered...
Can't believe I haven't mentioned Portion Control... the stuff they were
doing 80-82 is damned impressive... Simulate Sensual might be the White
Light/White Heat of the late 80s electronic scene. The kids at Hot Topic
wouldn't know it, but the people making the music know.
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