quoted 9 lines Unfortunately, I think IDM STARTED as a grey zone, but to be honest,>
> Unfortunately, I think IDM STARTED as a grey zone, but to be honest,
> it is something very difinite, and solid now. To me IDm is the Warp
> and warp derived stuff (Reflex, Merk, Skam, etc etc). So, to say,
> it's clicky beats, hiphop-ish based rhythum, and digtial noises...
> certainly this does go in a few different directions, but when peopel
> say IDM to me, I think of a sound that is, on the whole, quite
> homogenious.
>
Yeah exactly. It started out a kinda miscellaneous bin for electronic
music that wasn't intended
for the dance floor, experimental b-sides ranging from detroit's
founders (I mean come on 1/2 of Mike Paradinas' melodies on lunatic
harness are from Model 500) to where-ever, santiago, chile? Germany?
etc, but it's become a style via ppl relentlessly fucking the corpses
of twin, pusher, and then americans made glitch-hop big via prefuse,
machine drum, etc. there's always signs of hope, edIT's glitch-hop
doesn't sound anything like prefuse, but for the most part clones after
clones after clones after clones after clones after clones have really
totally and completely ruined a lot of idm for me. I've written for
magazines for 5 years now, and everytime I pop a cd in and hear those
first few bars of apex-esque melody, i just kinda sigh, grin, and give
it a bad review. But I've been complaining about this for years now,
and the last few years I've heard some at least individual-ee idm:
secret mommy, RA, Global Goon, the new Emotional Joystick, well when I
think about it though, these dues are about 1 in 300 promo wise and
unfortunately when you have to wave through 300 promos to find on
decent CD you know the market is flooded with shitty music and people
are simply going to get sick of it. happened to emo rock, has happened
to idm.
quoted 25 lines Like I said, it used to be way more open ended, but I think it's quite> Like I said, it used to be way more open ended, but I think it's quite
> limited now. I don't know why it changes, maybe the availability of
> software, maybe the bredth of the community itself, or mayeb the lack
> of diversity in the community.. dunno, but I do think it's different
> now than 4 years ago for sure.
>
> Just my 2 cents though...
> Jason F
>
>
>>
>> On 17 Dec 2004 at 18:11, Paul Thomas wrote:
>>
>> > I thought that idm is just a ghey label thought up by conceted
>> Americans
>> > who feel the need to categorize their tastes in some kind of self
>> > important way. Over here in the UK if you use the words
>> "Intelligent
>> > Dance Music" people will generally look at you very strangely
>> indeed and
>> > if I'm honest, quite rightly too, I think... What makes certain
>> music
>> > more 'intelligent'?
>>
>>
The irony of IDM is that it's not really the most intelligent dance
music out there anymore. i mean Matthew Herbert or any of scores
of tech or experimental microtonal dudes are making music with far
more intellectual conceits behind it.
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