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From:
Kent Williams
To:
do id
Date:
Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:17:27 -0500
Subject:
Re: [idm] radioheadtronica
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I think that writing a pop song is a different thing than coming up with an electronic music piece -- maybe it's unfair of me to criticize people for worrying about sound design more than songwriting, and I enjoy a nice repetetive track as well as the next guy. My problem is that I hear SO MUCH MUSIC. Really. And while the really exceptional stuff makes its own rules, there's so much out there that's made by people who mistake aping the sound design and sequencing strategies of the really good artists for being original themselves. But I have a very short attention span, and a low tolerance for people who beat the same dead horse. As an example: running a disco sample through a lowpass filter over a house beat was a cool idea -- for one track. They went and made a whole effing GENRE out of it. Another example: As far as I'm concerned, everyone besides Kit Clayton needs to STEP OFF on the Max/MSP wanking, because he's got it completely on lock. I guess I'm just tired of so much mediocre music coming out. And I'm not naming names... On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 00:55:10 +0300, Walkman <walkman@sutemos.net> wrote:
quoted 38 lines -----Original Message-----> > -----Original Message----- > From: Albers, Brian [mailto:BAlbers@premiereradio.com] > Sent: 2004 m. rugsėjo 8 d. 00:33 > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [idm] radioheadtronica > > > I have a different hope -- that more electronic artists would spend as > > much time on actually writing music, and less on tweaking the latest > > max/msp patch. > > > > I never liked this argument regarding electronic music (especially idm) > because the rules have changed (evolved) so drastically. When I think of > good songwriting, it's stuff from decades ago (respect to the Everly Bros, > Simon and Garfunkel, Beatles). And even during the rock eras of the 70s-90s, > finding a well written song with an original chord progression and an > artful, meaningful melody was a challenge. And just because a song was a hit > or popular doesn't mean that it was well written. > > > I think Brian is right. Song writing is that what it is. You can't event a > bicycle there. Unique sound alone is not an interesting thing, too. It is > all about combining these two things together. You have to be somehow unique > if you want to succeed. > > As for radiohead's electronic music I've heard rumors that they've purchased > a lot of warp stuff before writing the album and tried to generate ideas > from that. It feels like that for me. > > Walkman > www.sutemos.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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